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  • #91
    Worse Aargee ! they are just polishing or waxing the vehicle, mostly with abrasive polishes .. thereby removing scratches alongside a layer of original paint or clear-coat; in short you never know what mischief they are up to, in the name of teflon . For does notDuPont? Paint Protector
    Not to mention our own home grown geniuses ... Asianpaints
    India's first-ever Teflon surface protector paint that adds a satin glow sheen

    And this is what Dupont says about it - (quoted in professional carwashing & detailing magazine)


    Last edited by Pinaki; 10-10-2011, 04:00 AM.

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    • #92
      Hello all , i need a Scratch Remover , Good Polish/wax , Shampoo for my White ZMR .
      Being a newbie to the coating , polishing i don't know which one should be good , readed each post in this thread , i got that collinite 845 , Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish , Autoglym , Turtle Wax are good , but which one should be the nice for the ZMR White fairing ?
      And also how to check whether it is genuine if available on local shops ? As no one has posted any picture of any polishe/wax so its not easy to check certain thing for genuiness
      Browsing some web link posted in this thread i found QUIXX - Official BMW Cars Scratch Remover Quixx Paint Scratch Remover - Now in India - World Best Scratch remover - Auto-Mall.in is that should be good ? or is there any other scratch remover available ?
      I like the one used to remove scratches by Glass Coating Guys at my SVC , they naming it HD but having it in a small little container , no name , no detail either on it or they want to share

      Last edited by Above_All; 10-10-2011, 02:43 AM.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Above_All View Post
        Hello all , i need a Scratch Remover , Good Polish/wax , Shampoo for my White ZMR .
        Being a newbie to the coating , polishing i don't know which one should be good , readed each post in this thread , i got that collinite 845 , Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish , Autoglym , Turtle Wax are good , but which one should be the nice for the ZMR White fairing ?
        And also how to check whether it is genuine if available on local shops ? As no one has posted any picture of any polishe/wax so its not easy to check certain thing for genuiness
        Browsing some web link posted in this thread i found QUIXX - Official BMW Cars Scratch Remover Quixx Paint Scratch Remover - Now in India - World Best Scratch remover - Auto-Mall.in is that should be good ? or is there any other scratch remover available ?
        I like the one used to remove scratches by Glass Coating Guys at my SVC , they naming it HD but having it in a small little container , no name , no detail either on it or they want to share

        Originally posted by n_aditya View Post
        Its best to stick to widely known brands as some polishes can cause severe paint fade and dullness over time.

        IMO, the best wax polish by far is Meguiars. Costs a bomb but worth every cent.

        This is what i am looking for right now:

        Turtle Wax - ICE Clay Kit

        Turtle Wax - ICE Paste Polish
        Even im looking for a cheap nd best clay bar nd scratch remover, wax i'll buy waxpol coz its cheap. I don wan't to spend thousands of rupees to keep my paint protected, id rather save it nd repaint my bike with the same amount.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by sinnerz2000 View Post
          Even im looking for a cheap nd best clay bar nd scratch remover, wax i'll buy waxpol coz its cheap. I don wan't to spend thousands of rupees to keep my paint protected, id rather save it nd repaint my bike with the same amount.
          As you've correctly concluded - the best-est scratch removal treatment for your car/bike is to have it repainted .
          Short of which you can a) use an scratch-remover polish with mild abrasives in it b) have it compounded with rubbing-compound from professional paint guy (because they have the buffing wheels & necessary experience). Both will remove a layer of original paint/clear-coat from your bike/car and may have other undesirable effects later. i.e be prepared for a repaint if using any of the more aggressive methods, should something go wrong .
          I'd say just give it a good wash with car-shampoo and wax it with waxpol hard wax ( or collinite 845 sealing wax , or turtle or meguiars or mothers - whatever you are able to source genuine and afford ) . You'll be surprised how much an ordinary good waxing can hide scratches and give shine & protection .
          Last edited by Pinaki; 10-10-2011, 03:51 AM.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
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            Shoots!!! Hush Pinaki sir, if the showroom guys knows this, they'll start milking money from people saying, they've to dismantle parts & the price of existing Teflon (huh!!! ) coating will shoot up!!!

            Now that brings my thought on something else; why doesn't detailing leaders such as 3M, Carzspa don't offer teflon coating Probably for this same reason. Carzspa does nothing other than cleaning good + polishing + waxing. Probably they use clay bars for removing scratches that's all. No wonder!!!
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            • #96
              What polish should we use to polish plastic parts like the rear fender? and what polish for metal parts like swing arm etc?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by sinnerz2000 View Post
                Even im looking for a cheap nd best clay bar nd scratch remover, wax i'll buy waxpol coz its cheap. I don wan't to spend thousands of rupees to keep my paint protected, id rather save it nd repaint my bike with the same amount.
                What is clay bar ? & for what it is use ?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Above_All View Post
                  What is clay bar ? & for what it is use ?
                  Its basically a spongy bar used to smoothen the paint nd remove substances like tar or paint splatter from your bike

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    Shoots!!! Hush Pinaki sir, if the showroom guys knows this, they'll start milking money from people saying, they've to dismantle parts & the price of existing Teflon (huh!!! ) coating will shoot up!!!
                    Now that brings my thought on something else; why doesn't detailing leaders such as 3M, Carzspa don't offer teflon coating Probably for this same reason. Carzspa does nothing other than cleaning good + polishing + waxing. Probably they use clay bars for removing scratches that's all. No wonder!!!
                    Right ! Reputable International companies like 3M , with multiple product lines, have too much at stake to stoop so low as to scam customers . Same would be with reputable local detailers (like Carzspa & others) who must have valuable customer base build up over years (decades even) . They would not risk such sleazy gimmicks for a quick buck .
                    Originally posted by Above_All View Post
                    What is clay bar ? & for what it is use ?
                    Clay bar kinda looks like plasticine(modeling clay) , it's use is to remove embedded hard particulate material (mostly microscopic size) from the paint surface . You have to shape a lump of it with your hand and rub down the exposed painted surface with some lubricant(usually comes with the pack) to help . Then turn over , reshape(knead) it with your hand and use a fresh part of it again . To be discarded when saturated with dirt or if accidentally dropped to ground .Think of a flour dough . It is supposed to carry away the particles embedded on the paint surface by encapsulating it within the clay , thereby producing a better deeper shine when waxing/glossing is done afterwards . I've not seen it in shops here or a local manufacturer of it (last seen it sold in walmart NY few years back), although it should be a pretty simple stuff . It does not help with scratches in any way . Beware that some are mildly abrasive .

                    Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                    What polish should we use to polish plastic parts like the rear fender? and what polish for metal parts like swing arm etc?
                    Wax (waxpol, turtle, collinite etc etc) works good on smooth plastics too .. if you do not let it dry up too long as to form whitish crust . You can try waxpol (or any other good) liquid silicone polish on textured plastics .. works fine always .. but stays less time than wax . Swing-arm etc is ordinary painted metal, no ? Then waxing is good for it too .
                    Last edited by Pinaki; 10-11-2011, 04:56 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                      You can try waxpol (or any other good) liquid silicone polish on textured plastics
                      Thanks for the reply bro,How much for the Waxpol Liquid Silicone Polish? Is this its full name? or any other name?

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                      • Which turtle wax gives the best wet long lasting look to the bike? Should i buy the hard wax or the liquid one? Nd i've heard turtle wax ice is not so good is that true?

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                        • Originally posted by sinnerz2000 View Post
                          Which turtle wax gives the best wet long lasting look to the bike? Should i buy the hard wax or the liquid one? Nd i've heard turtle wax ice is not so good is that true?

                          as per my experience,turtle hard shell gives you protection and silky touch not that much shine.so if you want shine too,than first apply some silicon polish like waxpol silicon/amway glaze than give hard shell coat,preferably 2-3 coats with 24 hrs gap,rest leave it for two months(with daily dusting/removing dust)

                          For plastics and fiber you can safely use hard shell.

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                          • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                            Thanks for the reply bro,How much for the Waxpol Liquid Silicone Polish? Is this its full name? or any other name?
                            Yes , that is the name , the small 300ml bottle is 50 Rs . First saw it in use at my herohonda ASC . They use it to polish all bikes overall , before delivering it back after service .

                            And this is their hard Carnauba wax ... this 200gm tub was 100 Rs last I bought it ( about an year ago ) . It's very similar to turtle hard shell .
                            Last edited by Pinaki; 10-12-2011, 12:23 AM.

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                            • Should i use scratch remover also or the wax is enough to remove scratches?

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                              • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                                And this is their hard Carnauba wax ... this 200gm tub was 100 Rs last I bought it ( about an year ago ) . It's very similar to turtle hard shell .
                                Whats the difference between these two?

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