Engine Oils

[Honda_abhi]

Re: Engine Oils

I agree with you..but the problem is 150cc bikes don't like 20w40 oil as it causes engine to get sluggish and run rough...personally i don't have any experience with 20w40 oil...I'm just saying by grasping from the 900 some posts related to engine oil..

sancreation

Then try Shell AX7 10W40 semisynthetic oil. I have used it 2-3 times. Best oil at 399 Rs.

[sancreation]

Re: Engine Oils

I'm confused right now there are two different ones ax7 and ax7 advance one costs 399 and other one is abt 800...which is better both are rated at 10w40...

And the one which u recommend how kilometres can it run before it's viscosity wares out..

sancreation

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

I'm confused right now there are two different ones ax7 and ax7 advance one costs 399 and other one is abt 800...which is better both are rated at 10w40...

And the one which u recommend how kilometres can it run before it's viscosity wares out..

sancreation

Advance is Full Synth and AX7 is Semi-Synth. AX7 runs upto 2200-2500kms easily.

[Arvind Sibi]

Re: Engine Oils

I'm confused right now there are two different ones ax7 and ax7 advance one costs 399 and other one is abt 800...which is better both are rated at 10w40...

And the one which u recommend how kilometres can it run before it's viscosity wares out..

sancreation

I think you are getting confused. There is only one AX7 priced around 400+ and the other one is Advance Ultra priced at 820+ . There is an AX5 though, Cheaper than these two. Select the right one according to your requirements. I use the Advance Ultra 10w40 on my R15. The bike does feel a little bit rough since the stock Yamalube was a 15w50. I use my bike mostly for long distance touring and there hasn't been any heating issues during long straight runs or when being stuck under the scorching sun in heavy traffic. I actually wanted to get a Motul 7100 20w40 but all Motul's I see around are fake/replicas. Only if I could buy from KTM SVC's. Anyway the oil lasts around 4000-4500 kms. You can get it from any Shell Petrol Bunk.

[sancreation]

Re: Engine Oils

I think i will go for advance ultra..the costlier the better thanks for the info :thumbup:

sancreation

[sancreation]

Re: Engine Oils

Guys a small doubt...when you change engine oil from 10w30 to 10w40 oil do you feel any difference i mean vibrations, slow pick up, sluggishness.any thing like that..

And clutch slipping on fully synthetic oil is it true..

sancreation

[muztariq]

Re: Engine Oils

Guys a small doubt...when you change engine oil from 10w30 to 10w40 oil do you feel any difference i mean vibrations, slow pick up, sluggishness.any thing like that..

And clutch slipping on fully synthetic oil is it true..

sancreation

Yes, the engine becomes a little sluggish when the engine is cold. But when it becomes hot, there wont be much of a difference.

For you, the best oil would be Shell AX7 10w-40, which is Semi-S oil costing less than 400. If you still get the gear issue, show it to the SVC. It may need adjustment or replacement in that case. Solving problems with engine oil has its limitations. But, if you ride for long hours - Using xxW-40 is the best option. With this oil you will also have perceivable difference in the engine heat generation. The engine would run cooler.

Couple of queries for the more knowledgeable folks here:

1) What is the usual shelf-life of engine oils.
I have a can of MOTUL 15W50 semi-synthetic oil packed Jan-2014. Can has no expiry date mentioned. Till when can this be used?

2) What is the usual life of engine oil once poured into a motorcycle?
Please suggest assuming the motorcycle is barely used for 100Kms a month, with a run once every 3-4 days. Assume it is the same oil as above.

1. Motul tests the oil for 2 years on the shelf and recommends the same shelf life. You can use it till Jan 2016. Six months from Jan 2016 in the engine = Drain at June 2016.

2. You can keep the oil in that state for around 6 months. If you want to follow me, read my reply to Bloggingwheels below.

Good that you got a bike to experiment and restore muztariq!
Those who have used Diesel engine oils on their bikes, esp Hero/Honda bikes where 10W30 is the 'recommended' grade - would love to have your experience shared on this thread.
Any great Diesel Engine oils in the 10W30, 10W40 grades?

Thanks.. but i am not restoring my bike. Its a well conditioned relatively new bike.
My experiment with HDEOs has gone well. My Air-cooled Fazer 2011 like the oil a lot. Nowadays, I am riding only around 1.5 kms on weekdays (home to my kids bus stop) in the mornings.. The present odo reads around 20K and my monthly travel on bike has been reduced to 70-80 kms from last three months.
The last oil change was in May 2014 IIRC, when the ODO was around 18K. It was HDEO as usual. Time passes so quickly, its close to an year now that I had changed the oil . The engine is as smooth as new, even after using such an old oil. The engine cranks with a slight push of the button and no problem whatsoever. Although its a sin to keep oil for such long duration in the engine, but looking at my riding pattern, I would keep it for a month or two and then go for an oil+filter change.
Haven't seen HDEOs in those grades you mentioned.

[sancreation]

Re: Engine Oils

Thanks for quick reply bro....the problem is i daily run my bike only for 8km 4km while going and 4km while coming back the problem is i always rip my bike due to which it is sluggish and rough using 10w30sj oil i should check how 10w40 oil compares...

sancreation

[pradeeppk]

Re: Engine Oils

Guys a small doubt...when you change engine oil from 10w30 to 10w40 oil do you feel any difference i mean vibrations, slow pick up, sluggishness.any thing like that..

And clutch slipping on fully synthetic oil is it true..

sancreation

In my experience using shell advance ultral full synthetic 10w40, cause little sluggish performance, more smooth engine and in my case high drope in mileage (58 to 47). Replaced it after 400 kms with TVS full synthetic 10w30. Now mileage increased to 55, engine is smooth but 3 km drop in mileage compared to Honda mineral oil. Engine was run more freely and noisy when using Honda mineral oil. TVS oil already covered 2000 kms.
Why Honda suggest its customers to replace the oil (mineral) after 4000 kms , is it last that much?

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[sancreation]

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As far as i know no mineral oil can last for 4000km if so why do we need semi synthetic or fully synthetic oil...if using mineral oil it's better to change oil every 2000kms...they say 4000kms for mineral oil in tested conditions where they use machines to check the engine performance where we can never ride as the machines ratio we simply can't...

sancreation

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

As far as i know no mineral oil can last for 4000km if so why do we need semi synthetic or fully synthetic oil...if using mineral oil it's better to change oil every 2000kms...they say 4000kms for mineral oil in tested conditions where they use machines to check the engine performance where we can never ride as the machines ratio we simply can't...

sancreation

Mineral oil will not last more than 2k-2.2k kms with regular riding and ripping at times. The roughness starts kicking in after about 1500-1600kms itself.

[GOLDWING]

Re: Engine Oils

Mineral oil will not last more than 2k-2.2k kms with regular riding and ripping at times. The roughness starts kicking in after about 1500-1600kms itself.

Mine started at just 400 kms with hero oil ... roughness that is

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

Mine started at just 400 kms with hero oil ... roughness that is

Roughness in the engine, more vibes, noisy engine.

[GOLDWING]

Re: Engine Oils

Yes, the engine becomes a little sluggish when the engine is cold. But when it becomes hot, there wont be much of a difference.

For you, the best oil would be Shell AX7 10w-40, which is Semi-S oil costing less than 400. If you still get the gear issue, show it to the SVC. It may need adjustment or replacement in that case. Solving problems with engine oil has its limitations. But, if you ride for long hours - Using xxW-40 is the best option. With this oil you will also have perceivable difference in the engine heat generation. The engine would run cooler.



1. Motul tests the oil for 2 years on the shelf and recommends the same shelf life. You can use it till Jan 2016. Six months from Jan 2016 in the engine = Drain at June 2016.

2. You can keep the oil in that state for around 6 months. If you want to follow me, read my reply to Bloggingwheels below.



Thanks.. but i am not restoring my bike. Its a well conditioned relatively new bike.
My experiment with HDEOs has gone well. My Air-cooled Fazer 2011 like the oil a lot. Nowadays, I am riding only around 1.5 kms on weekdays (home to my kids bus stop) in the mornings.. The present odo reads around 20K and my monthly travel on bike has been reduced to 70-80 kms from last three months.
The last oil change was in May 2014 IIRC, when the ODO was around 18K. It was HDEO as usual. Time passes so quickly, its close to an year now that I had changed the oil . The engine is as smooth as new, even after using such an old oil. The engine cranks with a slight push of the button and no problem whatsoever. Although its a sin to keep oil for such long duration in the engine, but looking at my riding pattern, I would keep it for a month or two and then go for an oil+filter change.
Haven't seen HDEOs in those grades you mentioned.

There is one available - of 5W40 grade - by the name of
Mobil Super MGDO 5W-40 Semi Synthetic Diesel Oil . The same that is used in MS SWIFT DIESEL , COST 650 APX. FOR 1L

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Yes, the engine becomes a little sluggish when the engine is cold. But when it becomes hot, there wont be much of a difference.

For you, the best oil would be Shell AX7 10w-40, which is Semi-S oil costing less than 400. If you still get the gear issue, show it to the SVC. It may need adjustment or replacement in that case. Solving problems with engine oil has its limitations. But, if you ride for long hours - Using xxW-40 is the best option. With this oil you will also have perceivable difference in the engine heat generation. The engine would run cooler.



1. Motul tests the oil for 2 years on the shelf and recommends the same shelf life. You can use it till Jan 2016. Six months from Jan 2016 in the engine = Drain at June 2016.

2. You can keep the oil in that state for around 6 months. If you want to follow me, read my reply to Bloggingwheels below.



Thanks.. but i am not restoring my bike. Its a well conditioned relatively new bike.
My experiment with HDEOs has gone well. My Air-cooled Fazer 2011 like the oil a lot. Nowadays, I am riding only around 1.5 kms on weekdays (home to my kids bus stop) in the mornings.. The present odo reads around 20K and my monthly travel on bike has been reduced to 70-80 kms from last three months.
The last oil change was in May 2014 IIRC, when the ODO was around 18K. It was HDEO as usual. Time passes so quickly, its close to an year now that I had changed the oil . The engine is as smooth as new, even after using such an old oil. The engine cranks with a slight push of the button and no problem whatsoever. Although its a sin to keep oil for such long duration in the engine, but looking at my riding pattern, I would keep it for a month or two and then go for an oil+filter change.
Haven't seen HDEOs in those grades you mentioned.

There is one available - of 5W40 grade - by the name of
Mobil Super MGDO 5W-40 Semi Synthetic Diesel Oil . The same that is used in MS SWIFT DIESEL , COST 650 APX. FOR 1L

[sancreation]

Re: Engine Oils

400..how do u accept mine engine is over heating clutch is slipping vibrations...roughness..here is a pic after last oil change...i still didn't throw the carton away...maybe some outlets sell fake cans...we may be fooled

sancreation