Engine Oils

[shoeb2015]

I don't know whether you'll believe it or not, this guy Sachin who posted this thread, me and him had a chat regarding the same, looong time back, and believe it or not, even an Activa's gear oil was changed at the same time. Perhaps I forgot or I was too ignorant. Thanks for the heads up! Yes that is the 90EP gear oil used.

Thanks, Shoeb. Hope I don't look like a jackass, :banghead:

Cheers!
VJ

So the centrifugal clutch is of dry or wet type ?
The recommended grade is 10W30 and not EP90.(Check sibun's post in that thread)

When it comes to automatic scooters,my knowledge and experience is also nil.
Don't worry,we are here just to learn and share knowledge/experience.

[Touseef Ahmed Mohammed]

3.2 to 4k (max) KMX. Drained it at exactly 3.3K KMS felt though it still had some life left. Trust me, it'd be all smiles at least for the first 2k KMS, at least with the experiences I've had.

Thats nice, By the way, in which bike have you tried it bro?

[B7ACKTHORN]

So the centrifugal clutch is of dry or wet type ?
The recommended grade is 10W30 and not EP90.(Check sibun's post in that thread)

When it comes to automatic scooters,my knowledge and experience is also nil.
Don't worry,we are here just to learn and share knowledge/experience.

90EP is gear oil and 10w30 is engine oil. Activa is 100% dry clutch most CVT transmission are, the oil is for the cogs, not the clutch itself. And unlike wet clutches there won't be any gear slippage of any sort dhakka going on.

Cheers!
VJ

[B7ACKTHORN]

Thats nice, By the way, in which bike have you tried it bro?

Tried it on my 220, the R15 (my cousin's). Sorry for B2B posts, didn't see it coming.

Cheers!
VJ

[Touseef Ahmed Mohammed]

Tried it on my 220, the R15 (my cousin's). Sorry for B2T posts, didn't see it coming.

Great!
Actually i went to pick MOTUL 300V, but was Around Rs.950/- per litre.
So thought more practical
3 cans of MOTUL 3100 = 9000 kms of joy , where as 1 can of 300v = only 5k-6k kms of joy

[shoeb2015]

90EP is gear oil and 10w30 is engine oil. Activa is 100% dry clutch most CVT transmission are, the oil is for the cogs, not the clutch itself. And unlike wet clutches there won't be any gear slippage of any sort dhakka going on.

Cheers!
VJ

No,both the engine oil and transmission oil is 10W30. That means you did not read sibun's post carefully.

I think the Drive belt is also dipped in transmission oil,no ?

[B7ACKTHORN]

Great!
Actually i went to pick MOTUL 300V, but was Around Rs.950/- per litre.
So thought more practical
3 cans of MOTUL 3100 = 9000 kms of joy , where as 1 can of 300v = only 5k-6k kms of joy

Wow!! You're a math GENIUS. I never knew someone could do math as EINSTENIC as that (pun intended)

No,both the engine oil and transmission oil is 10W30. That means you did not read sibun's post carefully.

I think the Drive belt is also dipped in transmission oil,no ?

You are wrong. A gear oil's viscosity is completely different than a gear oil and it doesn't come in 20w40 50 etc. A Honda Activa uses a 90EP gear oil. You've mis read the post. Not all posted are true to words or the perceptions differ.

10w30 to 10w40 I've used it my Aunt's pep. Let me clear out your confusion. Actually 10w30 grade doesn't mean it's engine oil itself, it just means it's "EQUIVALENT". Perhaps Sibun forgot to add that in his posts. Technically, yes, 10w40, practically it's 90EP. It doesn't mean they both are same, they are used as disambiguation and perhaps you've went a little off track.

No! No way, the belt isn't dipped in oil, it'd would ruin the belt and at the same time cause considerable power loss.

Cheers!
VJ

[Honda_CBF]

@ shoeb & blackthrone, No no.. Drive belt stays dry. Oil is for gears only. And 'if' clutch is out of the transmission like in the kinetic Honda, then clutch is also dry type. And recommended oil to use in engine & transmission is 10w30 jaso ma oils. But 20w40 can also be used. And engine & transmission don't share same sump for lubrication. But they need similar type of oil. EP90 would have caused hell lot of drag.. Done that on KiHo so i know.

[B7ACKTHORN]

@ shoeb & blackthrone, No no.. Drive belt stays dry. Oil is for gears only. And 'if' clutch is out of the transmission like in the kinetic Honda, then clutch is also dry type. And recommended oil to use in engine & transmission is 10w30 jaso ma oils. But 20w40 can also be used. And engine & transmission don't share same sump for lubrication. But they need similar type of oil. EP90 would have caused hell lot of drag.. Done that on KiHo so i know.

Absolutely. I think you were a little late on that one. (pun intended)

Cheers!
VJ

[Honda_CBF]

Late? No way dude. Check post time!

[B7ACKTHORN]

@ shoeb & blackthrone, No no.. Drive belt stays dry. Oil is for gears only. And 'if' clutch is out of the transmission like in the kinetic Honda, then clutch is also dry type. And recommended oil to use in engine & transmission is 10w30 jaso ma oils. But 20w40 can also be used. And engine & transmission don't share same sump for lubrication. But they need similar type of oil. EP90 would have caused hell lot of drag.. Done that on KiHo so i know.

Late? No way dude. Check post time!

Okay, you've unleashed the child in me. So how come I came to post first (you were typing from mobile or something, LOL! LOL!) Jesus Christ, it's one hell of a laugh I am having here.

Cheers!
VJ

[shoeb2015]

That's what I am saying I have nil experience with automatics.

Blackthorn and CBF's post regarding the transmission oil are contradictory. Sibun has clearly mentioned that he uses "leftover engine oil" in transmission and Hero (or even Honda) do not recommend any special oil for transmission.

EDIT : Can anyone scan and upload the relevant pages regarding the engine and transmission oil from the owners manual of a Activa/Maestro ?

[Honda_CBF]

^^ Yeah. They don't mention any special or EP oils for transmission. They just need the very same 'engine' oil. Have read it in HH Pleasure's owners manual but can't produce it here unfortunately. @ Blackthrone, [yeah I'm using mobile] cheating karta hai.. Cheating cheating cheating.. *as in the bolly movie Shingham*

[B7ACKTHORN]

^^ Yeah. They don't mention any special or EP oils for transmission. They just need the very same 'engine' oil. Have read it in HH Pleasure's owners manual but can't produce it here unfortunately. @ Blackthrone, [yeah I'm using mobile] cheating karta hai.. Cheating cheating cheating.. *as in the bolly movie Shingham*

Forget it Shoeb. Go to your dealer, as him transmission oil, get it lubed. DONE! It's not contradicting, but perhaps it's just simple for the manufacturers to not confuse people by having two separate oils, so they just name them as one, perhaps. But technically, they are different.

Cheater "COCK" lol. Let me humbly stop it there, I can't stop laughing.

Cheers!
VJ

[ravi@17bhp]

90 grade oil is used for gear box in activa, not the same engine oil.