Engine Oils

[Pinaki]

Re: Engine Oils

How far does kerosene serve in cleaning a Drive chain? Safe using kerosene?
I do clean my Fz16's Drive chain with kerosene & a tooth brush, it removes dirt like SurfExcel.

Kerosene is the cleaner recomended by chain/bike manufacturers , it is excellent , cheap , readily available and safe for this use . Be easy on the brushing and you're doing just fine , your FZ has an o-ring chain and you don't want to damage/deform those rubber rings . Wipe off with clean cloth and let it dry before applying lubricant . You can use any light oil for lube , better not to use EP90 gear-oil on o-ring chains ( it is too sticky and shall collect grit causing rubber-rings to wear from friction ) . Clean engine oil ( same as that you pour into your engine ) is just fine . The only purpose of external lubricant in o-ring chain is to keep the rubber rings supple and prevent rust on the metal parts . Otherwise it does not need any lubricant application for operation . Wipe off all lubricant with clean dry cloth soon after application . Then chain shall appear almost dry afterwards and not collect road grit easily or drip .

Friends, i have a honda cb unicorn which has clocked 2500 kms. The recommended grade engine oil is 10w30 in the owners manual but does not mention fs or s. What engine oil should i use other than stock honda engine oil? Can i use Throttle honda fs engine oil??

If they don't say anything about the type , they mean mineral oil . There are many oils in 10w30 grade for you to try . This is an excellent 10w30 oil for around ₹300 - I am using it now .

[girish78]

Re: Engine Oils

Kerosene is the cleaner recomended by chain/bike manufacturers , it is excellent , cheap , readily available and safe for this use . Be easy on the brushing and you're doing just fine , your FZ has an o-ring chain and you don't want to damage/deform those rubber rings . Wipe off with clean cloth and let it dry before applying lubricant . You can use any light oil for lube , better not to use EP90 gear-oil on o-ring chains ( it is too sticky and shall collect grit causing rubber-rings to wear from friction ) . Clean engine oil ( same as that you pour into your engine ) is just fine . The only purpose of external lubricant in o-ring chain is to keep the rubber rings supple and prevent rust on the metal parts . Otherwise it does not need any lubricant application for operation . Wipe off all lubricant with clean dry cloth soon after application . Then chain shall appear almost dry afterwards and not collect road grit easily or drip .

If they don't say anything about the type , they mean mineral oil . There are many oils in 10w30 grade for you to try . This is an excellent 10w30 oil for around ₹300 - I am using it now .

Is the gulf oil synthetic oil or mineral???

[xpranav]

Re: Engine Oils

I use the Motul Chain Cleaner to clean the chain and Gear Oil EP90 for lubing it. The Motul is amazing and cleans the chain amazingly well. It costed me Rs. 480 for the Motul.

Cheerz!!

Yeah ! I will be using the Motul Chain Cleaner and Lube...............can you drop here a link of any online shop to buy it if poss

Is the gulf oil synthetic oil or mineral???

look at the pic ............. it says synthetic

[Pinaki]

Re: Engine Oils

I had heard that the chain in FZ series bikes are only cleaned they do not require any lubrication ........... is it true ??

It is true for all o-ring and x-ring type chains . They contain the necessary lubrication grease inside the pin-bush , sealed in by the rubber o-rings and sufficient for the expected life of the chain . Occasional light cleaning and light oiling is necessary only to keep the rubber rings friction-free and supple and prevent rust from water exposure .

[muztariq]

Re: Engine Oils

I didnt llubricate the chain on my Fazer's (FZ like) open chain and the chain was deformed withing a week without lubrication. Whether O-ring or not, open chains needs to be lubricated after every wash/300 kms. Failing to do so would kill the sprockets within no time. Some ppl were forced to change the chain set within 5000 km on a new bike coz of that.

[xpranav]

Re: Engine Oils

I didnt llubricate the chain on my Fazer's (FZ like) open chain and the chain was deformed withing a week without lubrication. Whether O-ring or not, open chains needs to be lubricated after every wash/300 kms. Failing to do so would kill the sprockets within no time. Some ppl were forced to change the chain set within 5000 km on a new bike coz of that.

Allow me to quote here again what you may have missed. Please see below

Occasional light cleaning and light oiling is necessary only to keep the rubber rings friction-free and supple and prevent rust from water exposure .

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

[MENTION=59642]xpranav[/MENTION]... I bought it from local shop near my house. Not aware of any online sites.

Cheerz!!

[Pinaki]

Re: Engine Oils

... open chains needs to be lubricated after every wash/300 kms. Failing to do so would kill the sprockets within no time. Some ppl were forced to change the chain set within 5000 km on a new bike coz of that.

Another thing to note is that never pressure wash an open o-ring chain ( or even flood it with solvent/kero or vigorously brush it or use wire brushes etc ) . They usually pressure wash at the service centers without you knowing . The forceful pressure of water deforms the rubber o-rings momentarily and lets water breach it's seal , thereby contaminating or washing away the superior factory lubricant . This shall invariably cause the chain to soon fail . Even if just one o-ring was so affected .

And yes , I agree that open chains do need more frequent of that cleaning , particularly after a wet riding in rain or sandy trail etc . You can clean it reasonably well by just gently brushing it with a dry old (soft) toothbrush alone . Then apply a light oil and wipe off .

[muztariq]

Re: Engine Oils

Allow me to quote here again what you may have missed. Please see below

I wrote what exactly I wanted to write.. I highlighted whats needs to be done, you gave reasons why it needs to be performed.

On closed o-ring chains, you can run 5,000 kms/6 months without re-oiling the chain. But on open chains you cant run even one month without re-lubing. Open chains attract dust and this reduces the lubricant's efficiency enormously. Rains, wash, humidity all play a big role in further reducing the lubrication.

[Touseef Ahmed Mohammed]

Re: Engine Oils

Kerosene is the cleaner recomended by chain/bike manufacturers , it is excellent , cheap , readily available and safe for this use . Be easy on the brushing and you're doing just fine , your FZ has an o-ring chain and you don't want to damage/deform those rubber rings . Wipe off with clean cloth and let it dry before applying lubricant . You can use any light oil for lube , better not to use EP90 gear-oil on o-ring chains ( it is too sticky and shall collect grit causing rubber-rings to wear from friction ) . Clean engine oil ( same as that you pour into your engine ) is just fine . The only purpose of external lubricant in o-ring chain is to keep the rubber rings supple and prevent rust on the metal parts . Otherwise it does not need any lubricant application for operation . Wipe off all lubricant with clean dry cloth soon after application . Then chain shall appear almost dry afterwards and not collect road grit easily or drip .

Thanx Sir. I use Ep-140 gear oil for drive chain. and yes, i do wipeoff excess oil with a cloth.

[Pinaki]

Re: Engine Oils

You don't need that ep140 / ep90 gear oil for your chain if it is an o-ring type . The stickier the oil you use , more would be the dirt that stick on it and more frequent cleaning needed . Use a thin light oil in the same way and see the difference .

[Honda_CBF]

Re: Engine Oils

I've observed, ep90/140 oil helps make the chain silent, even if its a o-ring chain. but only use this heavy oil after cleaning the chain. for top-up kinda lubrication, cheap 2t oil works just fine.

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Engine Oils

Today changed from mineral to seepmi-synthetic.. Castrol Power1
Had thought of opting for FS, but as very rarely go on very long drives, went for SS.. It should do just fine
lets see if it makes any difference in the performance of the engine..

[shanky442]

Re: Engine Oils

Hi All,
I have TVS Apache rtr 160. it has run for 2500kms. Can you plz tell me when can i change the engine oil to semi synthetic oil ? Also which oil will be good for apache 160.

Thanks

[pixantz]

Re: Engine Oils

Hi All,
I have TVS Apache rtr 160. it has run for 2500kms. Can you plz tell me when can i change the engine oil to semi synthetic oil ? Also which oil will be good for apache 160.

Thanks

If your oil is not already SS, wait for at least 5K kms and then change. Any good brand (Motul/Shell/Veedol etc) will do. In W40 grade


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