Engine Oils

[Jith_in]

If I were you I would dump that oil every 1500 to 2k kms

I am also doing that. Just enquired about hero's claim.

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ITs summers and its hot try to source a 20w40 or 20w50 oil for summers.

But senior members in cbz xtreme thread saying that 20w40 is too thick for xtreme,have to stick with 10w30..

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[Divyanshp150]

Then stick to 10w30 or 10w40 bro.
Maybe its too thick but in indian su,, er heat the oil usually looses its viscosity and becomes thinner. A 20w50 or 20w40 oil wil hold itself better than a 10w30 in that heat.
But if adviced by senior members then stick to 10w30 or 10w40. Go with mineral, ss and fs oils will decrease in quantity and vaporise in overheating engines.
But personally I would give 20w40 a shot if its no good drain off.... but in the heat and stop and go traffic 20w40 will be good

divyansh....

I am also doing that. Just enquired about hero's claim.

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The company claims are made by extensive tests done in fixed and controlled environments. Non applicable in day to day life.
The oil will last that much at constant load, rpm and speed and constant ambient air temperature and flow.
Unfortunately nothing is that constant:P

divyansh....

[Honda_abhi]

Re: Engine Oils

I have read a lot about HDEOs on this site. The talk revolves around the oil constitution, about the additives and vibration /noise reduction. A diesel engine works under far extreme conditions (than a motorcycle engine) and has a far greater load to take care of. Hence HDEOs are manufactured to withstand these conditions. IMHO, HDEOs will put a greater strain on the motorcycle engine resulting in loss of performance / compression and mileage. Anybody ever mapped these parameters here ???
If bikers want vibration /noise reduction, why not try mercurizer or quicksilver oils?? These are better than HDEOs. Anybody ever tired these oils???

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Dear Folks,

I am facing a typical problem with my engine oil. Some 4000kms back my piston block has to be changed as it was damaged badly due to low engine oil. However during that period I was using Semi Synthetic (Motul 15w50) engine oil , and was only 1900km done. After taking the remaining oil out it was observed that around 400ml of oil came out. No leakage of oil was there anyways. Now my piston block set is new. I am using Motul 20w50 , I have been using this through out. During that incident it was for the first time I shifted to Semi Synthetic oil. Now yesterday for a check I went to change my engine oil. I have covered only 1000km. To my surprise only 500ml of oil came out. Again there's no sign of leakage. However I have changed the oil and this time for a change I have shifted to Fully Synthetic 20w50. I will keep an eye for next 1000km. So as to see how the engine behaves. however when i took it to ASC where I have changed my piston block said that the engine head needs to be opened and rechecked what the problem is. I told them to wait for another 1000km then we will do it if the problem is still there. However I am solely clueless how the engine oil is disappearing! My engine heats up pretty fast and some times make me feel it's gonna fry my legs. Also when going above 80kmph with pillion my engine makes some different sound apart form what its natural sound is. I have to listen minutely to understand there's a grrrrrrr sound coming, and it happens only I am going north of 80kmph. Any idea what the problem can be??

When you change the block/piston set, the bike is to be treated as if it is having a new engine. please stick to mineral oils till you complete 10 K kms. cheers and happy riding

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Engine Oils

Hero claiming that their engine oil hero 4t plus need to be changed at 6000 kms. Is it true? does hero oil last for 6k Also what is the drain period of honda 10w30 mineral made by tide water oil co(veedol) ?

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You see, a lot of manufacturers use usp called "normal testing conditions" whereas any component or lubrication fluids all take the "normal wear and tear" proposition, so you might see company certified mileage of 85 whereas in real world you'd get somewhere close to 65 to 70 or even less. The same case applies for oil. Most oils sold by SVCs are Mineral for most commuter bikes and they are designed to last no more than 3 to 4k max unless it's a fully synthetic oil where it can be extended a few thousand KMs more.

For example, Bajaj 10,000 Oil says 10,000 KMS drain interval, and I can personally vouch no single oil could ever last that long considering even what's "normal" even for the company. This is just a pure marketing gimmick. But trust me there are oils that last to that KMs, but let's stick to this topic for now.

Secondly anything above 4k for a Mineral is pure bull kaka.

Cheers!
VJ

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

My 2 cents also
Using a cheepo mineral (read 250 to 300rs)
for 1 k km is better than using a costly fs oil for 9 k kms!
Also in summers fs are bad, they have a tendancy to vaporise when your in stop and go traffic
And some fs have additives that are known to eat gaskets and cause leakes.......
Ps:- I preefer semi synthetics. Best of both worlds

divyansh....

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello
I have used a diesel car oil (castrol magnatec for scorpio)
On a pulsar:P (dont ask me how or why)(read drunk friend had an idea and somehow convinced a not drunk me)(I dont drink and all)
Crazy amounts of clutch slippage
Gear shifts were so smooth I couldnt tel if I shifted one gear or two and sometimes the gear lever used to just get stuck
Engine felt really smoothe and vibrated a lot less
Unfortunately it refused to rev quickly and when I drained the oil 200 aproxx kms later it looked black! And the inside of my engine (clutch cover etc) looked sparkling clean !!
Not recommended.
He still uses it on his bike but somehow his bike feels so much better but he uses petrol cars engine oil.

divyansh....

[harshavardhanchivate]

Re: Engine Oils

I live in Vadodara, Gujarat where the temperature crosses 40 in summer. I have a 2013 RE TB350. Can you suggest me a good oil for summer. Would changing the oil cause any harm to my ride?! And will it reduce the vibrations which I feel are heavy, post 3k rpm. And I also felt that the engine was heating up more than usual while riding at noon and afternoon. Is it normal? Should I show it to a mech?

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[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

I live in Vadodara, Gujarat where the temperature crosses 40 in summer. I have a 2013 RE TB350. Can you suggest me a good oil for summer. Would changing the oil cause any harm to my ride?! And will it reduce the vibrations which I feel are heavy, post 3k rpm. And I also felt that the engine was heating up more than usual while riding at noon and afternoon. Is it normal? Should I show it to a mech?

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How old is your ride brother? If its a new bike its probably in the run in phase hence the vibration and over heating issues. They will iron out with consecutive servicings.
The best grades for your re would be 15w50, 20w40 and 20w50
Change the oil filter with the engine oil.
Re's dont do well with castrol try motul, or shell
Motul 3000 is available in 15w50 best oil for you.
Price is around 320rs for the liter.



divyansh....

[aukhan]

Re: Engine Oils

Hey guys I own a pulsar 220fi and I checked with the engine oils and found good reviews about the oils
Now I am confused as in which grade should I go with the BASS recommending me for a 20 50w grade when checked the Motul dealer he said there is no 20 50w oil in Motul they have 10 50w so is it OK to go with this grade.

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[maadyy]

Re: Engine Oils

I have read a lot about HDEOs on this site. The talk revolves around the oil constitution, about the additives and vibration /noise reduction. A diesel engine works under far extreme conditions (than a motorcycle engine) and has a far greater load to take care of. Hence HDEOs are manufactured to withstand these conditions. IMHO, HDEOs will put a greater strain on the motorcycle engine resulting in loss of performance / compression and mileage. Anybody ever mapped these parameters here ???
If bikers want vibration /noise reduction, why not try mercurizer or quicksilver oils?? These are better than HDEOs. Anybody ever tired these oils???

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When you change the block/piston set, the bike is to be treated as if it is having a new engine. please stick to mineral oils till you complete 10 K kms. cheers and happy riding

Thanks for your support bro but after the completion of around 4500kms I have already shifted to FS. It is keeping the engine cool comparatively a little better than Motul 3100 20w50. I am using Motul 7100 20w50 now . So do you suggest me to go back to the same mineral oil now or shall I continue using the FS as mentioned.

[Anuj_Gupta]

Re: Engine Oils

Bike-200ns.
Odo- 4108kms, 10months old
Riding style- like a robbery getaway rider.
Mileage- less than 30,never checked precisely though.
Overall experience- high on my bike more than any weed.
So guys, my motul 3100 20w50 gold oil just gave the " sign" that the time to bid farewell is very near (approx a 100km max) .
Did 1900kms on that oil, was it okay that this oil performed well for 2k kms only.
And for the warranty crap, I have to use that dtsi crap next month.
So will it be okay to use that dtsi crap after motul. .?
I'll be changing dtsi crap after 700kms a.k.a. the distance after which it goes kaput.
Any thing to consider. ?

Don't try to fix me, I'm broke so I don't work
So are you, but you're broke 'cause you don't work

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

Thanks for your support bro but after the completion of around 4500kms I have already shifted to FS. It is keeping the engine cool comparatively a little better than Motul 3100 20w50. I am using Motul 7100 20w50 now . So do you suggest me to go back to the same mineral oil now or shall I continue using the FS as mentioned.

Fs oils have a tendency to vaporise in really hot weathers.
Check after a drain interval of 3000km if the drained amout is same as the one you poured in or maybe 100ml less your ok any lesser is bad
(100 ml can be still inside the engine after drainage or it may have vaporised)

divyansh....

[Honda_abhi]

Re: Engine Oils

Thanks for your support bro but after the completion of around 4500kms I have already shifted to FS. It is keeping the engine cool comparatively a little better than Motul 3100 20w50. I am using Motul 7100 20w50 now . So do you suggest me to go back to the same mineral oil now or shall I continue using the FS as mentioned.

If your FS oil is dissappearing, then you should stick to mineral till the piston/cylinder beds properly. Your noise/vibration will increase with mineral oil, but in the long run it will give you better results after the piston/cylinder beds properly. cheers and drive safely. Always wear a helmet.

[maadyy]

Re: Engine Oils

If your FS oil is dissappearing, then you should stick to mineral till the piston/cylinder beds properly. Your noise/vibration will increase with mineral oil, but in the long run it will give you better results after the piston/cylinder beds properly. cheers and drive safely. Always wear a helmet.

After the piston bore kit change the first time I have shifted to FS was used for 700kms and there was no issue experienced. Complete 1 ltr of oil is drained out and I have used FS again and will check after I complete 1500km.

[Honda_abhi]

Re: Engine Oils

Bike-200ns.
Odo- 4108kms, 10months old
Riding style- like a robbery getaway rider.
Mileage- less than 30,never checked precisely though.
Overall experience- high on my bike more than any weed.
So guys, my motul 3100 20w50 gold oil just gave the " sign" that the time to bid farewell is very near (approx a 100km max) .
Did 1900kms on that oil, was it okay that this oil performed well for 2k kms only.
And for the warranty crap, I have to use that dtsi crap next month.
So will it be okay to use that dtsi crap after motul. .?
I'll be changing dtsi crap after 700kms a.k.a. the distance after which it goes kaput.
Any thing to consider. ?

Don't try to fix me, I'm broke so I don't work
So are you, but you're broke 'cause you don't work

You have a performance machine and you love to ride it. I mean a 200ns shud be ridden hard to get the thrill of the machine. I feel Motul is one of the best engine oils available which will keep your 200ns engine running and support your style of driving. I doubt if dtsi engine oil will even last 700 Kms??? Happy riding.