Engine Oils

[zayn]

hahaha.....lolz


Guys, is there a shelf life of oil's? I mean, how long can we store oil without it getting spoilt by itself?

Product Shelf Life

Base Oils, Process Oils = 3 years

Hydraulic Oils, Compressor Oils, General Purpose Lubricating Oils = 2 years

Engine Oils and Transmission Oils = 3 years

Industrial and Automotive Gear Oils = 2 years

Metal Working and Cutting Oils = 1 year

The following are signs of storage instability in a lubricant:

>Settling out of the additives as a gel or sticky liquid

>Floc or haze

>Precipitates/solid material

>Colour change or haziness

>Water contamination in a lubricant can be detected by a "milky" appearance of the product.
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Engine oil will remain intact for a number of years. The main factor affecting the life of the oil is the storage condition for the products. Exposure to extreme temperature changes, and moisture will reduce the shelf life of the lubricants. ie. don't leave in the sun with the lid off. Best to keep them sealed and unopened.

Technically, engine oils have shelf lives of four to five years. However, as years pass, unused engine oils can become obsolete and fail to meet the technical requirements of current engines. The specs get updated regularly based on new scientific testing procedures and engine requirements. But this is only really a concern if you've bought a brand new car but have engine oil you bought for the previous car. An oil that is a number of years old might not be formulated to meet the requirements set for your newer engine.

If your unopened containers of engine oil are more than three years old, read the labels to make sure they meet the latest industry standards. If they do meet the current standards, you might want to take the extra precaution of obtaining oil analysis before using them. An oil analysis will check for key properties of the oil and ensure that it still meets the original manufacturing specs. Of course the cost of getting an analysis done on old oil is probably going to outweigh going and buying fresh stuff. So it's a double-edged sword.
As a general rule, the simpler the oil formulation, the longer the shelf life.

[kaka]

@ Zayn

I really appreciate what you are doing here for fellow xbhpian's but please refrain from using colorful and irregular sized fonts unless absolutely necessary. I'm sure all of us here are educated and can read in plain text. You can just bold the key words and use normal text. It looks elegant and does the job right.

I hope you understand.

I am having Pulsar 135 LS. It is run about 350 km still now. The colour of the engine oil has turned black. So, I want to change the engine oil.
Please, suggest me a good mineral based engine oil in 20W50 or 15W50 grade.
Could anyone please tell me the full name of the mineral oil from Motul suitable for my bike and its cost.

Till the run-in period is over, do not switch oils. Use the stock oil recommended by Bajaj. You can think of alternatives after 3k km. This is my opinion and suggestion. The engineers have done enough research before recommending a particular grade of oil for a bike. For normal city riding, the stock oil should be fine. It is just out of our curiosity and inner psyche that we want to try new oils, but yes at times they are better than stock oils. As long as the oil supplier to sc's is good, the oil will be good.

[abhilashabhi12]

[QUOTE=zayn;365733]Ok I was bit overexcited don't know way...

@abhilashabhi12: How much 15W50 is't mineral or semi S you are taking about..?? and cost any Idea what to pour it in P-180 Dealer told me 200Rs for Motul 20W40,I guess 15W50 will be 275Rs at least.

[QUOTE=zayn;365733]

U have your answer down in the below post, Yet I believe IIRC I paid 195 a can of 1ltr for Motul Mineral 15W50.

Ahhh......good exmaple to show how Fullstop's and other puntuatcion mark are important!

@zyan

15W50 motul 3000 4T (mineral) costed me 190rs from a dealer and 210 from a retailer. MRP is 225rs. Am using this for the past 5k kms. 3 oil changes done and it goes bad within 2k kms on my 220 which i think is not bad at all!

Mine run 2.5k kms without any Hiccups.

[Bubbly]

I have decided to go for Castrol Power 1 for my Suzuki GS150R (4200km on the ODO)... Even my service center guy gave a nod for it.

The recommended oil for my bike is 20w40... I noticed that power 1 is 15w40... Is there anything wrong in going for power 1?

Thanks in advance

P.S - Initially I was running on Castrol Activ (Stock oil used in Suzuki SC)

[Puneet1]

@^^^ it is ok if you go for a 15W40 power1 instead of 20w40 .

[onlinesatish]

Mine run 2.5k kms without any Hiccups.

Good to hear. But i belevie P220 is spoils the oil faster than other bikes!

@zyan

Thx bro. Thats some very good info!

[zayn]

Good to hear. But i belevie P220 is spoils the oil faster than other bikes!

@zyan

Thx bro. Thats some very good info!

My pleasure Satish..

[Aryan]

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[kurtrules]

1 question: I noticed that in one of the posts above , the cost price of Motul 300V (Assuming 15w50) was mentioned to be 895 INR

BTW price would be 895 INR for 1L of 300V FL.

Here in Chandigarh I know guys, who get the same oil for their ZMAs at 750/can reduced to 720 if you obtian a carton. I deduce that taxes may vary from city to city but such fluctuation in price is not understandable!

Can someone explain?

Thanks

[abhilashabhi12]

1 question: I noticed that in one of the posts above , the cost price of Motul 300V (Assuming 15w50) was mentioned to be 895 INR



Here in Chandigarh I know guys, who get the same oil for their ZMAs at 750/can reduced to 720 if you obtian a carton. I deduce that taxes may vary from city to city but such fluctuation in price is not understandable!

Can someone explain?

Thanks

Actually the price if Motul oils have gone up steadily in the recent past.. when 1st time I had put 300V FL 15W50 it was 795 MRP but I got it for 750(around 1.5yrs back) & today the same oil is 895 MRP in Bangalore.

May be the dealer with whom your friends are buying having old stock which he bought long back or the main distributor whom he is getting is still having the same oil oil lying with him.

[ceasar]

Guys,i have a silly question

all here know about Motul 300V Fully synthetic and its drain period,assume that under harsh riding conditions it lasts for 5000km,then,when we give our bikes to the SVC's during this period,don't you think they will play around with the engine oil? i mean it will be in good condition,what if they drain 300V and pour any s*itty oil in the place of that,of course the difference would be there,but then,we have to get into a S*it with that Sc guyz,has anyone here faced this kind of situation?

[abhichotu.abhi]

Guys,i have a silly question

all here know about Motul 300V Fully synthetic and its drain period,assume that under harsh riding conditions it lasts for 5000km,then,when we give our bikes to the SVC's during this period,don't you think they will play around with the engine oil? i mean it will be in good condition,what if they drain 300V and pour any s*itty oil in the place of that,of course the difference would be there,but then,we have to get into a S*it with that Sc guyz,has anyone here faced this kind of situation?

If they pour a new oil then you will definitely know by its colour.
Regarding SC pouring in bad oil, then i must say that they are not much daring to do such a job.
so, untill you tell them to change the oil they will not even a single time touch the engine oil.
if you are so worried then you should apply a sealent like anabond and fevibond on the nut of engine oil bolt, so if the SC guys will open the nut you would know as the seal will be broken, This practice i used to follow on my Pulsar 150 classic.

[ceasar]

If they pour a new oil then you will definitely know by its colour.
Regarding SC pouring in bad oil, then i must say that they are not much daring to do such a job.
so, untill you tell them to change the oil they will not even a single time touch the engine oil.
if you are so worried then you should apply a sealent like anabond and fevibond on the nut of engine oil bolt, so if the SC guys will open the nut you would know as the seal will be broken, This practice i used to follow on my Pulsar 150 classic.

yup,that is what i said,we can identify the change anyways.thx for the info

bytheway,these sealants;where are they available? and what is the cost involved?

[foolsworldus]

i bought a liter of Motul 300v FL for Rs. 780/- from Bhubaneswar.. the MRP. is 795/-.. it was imported in sep 2008

[kurtrules]

Actually the price if Motul oils have gone up steadily in the recent past.. when 1st time I had put 300V FL 15W50 it was 795 MRP but I got it for 750(around 1.5yrs back) & today the same oil is 895 MRP in Bangalore.

May be the dealer with whom your friends are buying having old stock which he bought long back or the main distributor whom he is getting is still having the same oil oil lying with him.

No friend, he is currently the only dealer in Chandigarh, Mani Majra and his stock is fresh. I once tried 300 V about 16-17 months ago and I bought a can for Rs 650!

I guess there is a difference.