Engine Oils

[saurabhjd]

Been calling the Motul distributer in andheri sakinaka(the owner Mr. Avinash) for so many days but no reply only... finally had 2 make a viist to andheri to see if its available, but no luck, the godown guy said might find it in Dhaisar somewhere.

arre, AFAIK, Mr. Avinash had shut down his Motul business and he is into something different now. (cant confirm though). but i got this news from one of my local mechanic who used to get motul supply from Avinash. i heard that one guy from sewri is motul distributor now. (cant confirm though).

[Dogg]

up to how many kms will the motul 20w50 viscosity is held(engine will be smooth without hard gear shifts and harsh engine sound) any idea about its price.

DO you have any used experience with it?

What about veedol turbo and gulf 20w50?

the motul mineral oil,or any other standard oil (20W50) will last about 2k kms in a 180... but a lot depends on your driving style.If you rip it a lot and touch 8k rpms all the time,change @ ~1.5k,if you drive sensibly and shift at early rpms,you can use it till 2k kms... Also check your oil level regularly....
for a p180 i guess the best oil i can recommend would be the motul 5100 15W50, neither too costly,but still a VFM product and the p180 can utilise all what the oil can give,and you can prolong this oil upto 3k kms

[Dogg]

any comment on my post?

it was a long time ago,but i used this in a hunk,but ended with gear slips,harsh engine,etc.... could be due to the bike as well... if your required rating is 20w40 or 20w50, i suggest you look into

motul
5100 - SS - available in 15W50 and heard that it is avalble in some lower grade as well - has my approval
7100 - fs - don't know,must be a 15W50 as well
300v - available in 5W40,15W50 as far as i know

Shell
Advance AX 7- SS - 10w40
Advance Ultra - FS 10W40

Moto /Total
Moto 4xt tech -FS - 10W50 - has my approval

Petronas

Sprinta 5000 - fs -10W40 - makes the engine a little harsh,but will increase performance but will not last as well as the other FS
Sprinta 4000 - SS-10W40

SS - are arnd 300~450rs
FS - 650~ 900 rs,Sprinta might be cheaper

[akatl]

in my cbz xtreme i'm now using gulf pride 4t plus 10w30
my experience with this oil is good engine is running smooth. after some kms i think change to castrol power1 10w30 is this good or not?

[Aneesh@4GHz]

any comment on my post?

Bro what about Gulf Pride Plus 20w40? Good recommendation for ZMA.

[akatl]

Bro what about Gulf Pride Plus 20w40? Good recommendation for ZMA.

Gulf Pride Plus 20w40 a very good mineral oil for old zma
better drain interval, smooth engine. but i recommend FS oil, motul 300v
or SS oils like shell advance AX7 for zma
in my extreme i'm using Gulf Pride Plus 10w30 done 1100kms with this oil. engine is running smooth till now i will try castrol power1 10w30 next time.
changing engine oil every 1500kms.

[Aneesh@4GHz]

Gulf Pride Plus 20w40 a very good mineral oil for old zma
better drain interval, smooth engine. but i recommend FS oil, motul 300v
or SS oils like shell advance AX7 for zma
in my extreme i'm using Gulf Pride Plus 10w30 done 1100kms with this oil. engine is running smooth till now i will try castrol power1 10w30 next time.
changing engine oil every 1500kms.

What about Gulf Pride Plus 10w30 in karizma? I don't want costly oils.Is 10W40 oil OK for karizma?Will m mileage decrease if i shift from HH Oil to Gulf Pride Plus 20w40?

[akatl]

What about Gulf Pride Plus 10w30 in karizma? I don't want costly oils.Is 10W40 oil OK for karizma?

10w30 grade is recommended only in new karizmaR. in old ZMA rec 20w40 so u can use xw40 grade.
one of my friend is using gulf 10w30 in his ZMA-R he is very happy with this oil

Will m mileage decrease if i shift from HH Oil to Gulf Pride Plus 20w40?

i don't think so, if ur using same grade.

ur experience, which oil is best for xtreme? grade 10w30.

[kaka]

What about Gulf Pride Plus 10w30 in karizma? I don't want costly oils.Is 10W40 oil OK for karizma?Will m mileage decrease if i shift from HH Oil to Gulf Pride Plus 20w40?

You can try Shell AX 7 10w40 SS oil. Been using it for around 1k km now. Absolutely happy with the performance. Smooth gear shifts .. good on the whole .. only downside is engine gets hotter than before .. earlier i was using motul 5100 15x50 so naturally the engine was running comparatively cooler than with shell .. costs 290

[akatl]

You can try Shell AX 7 10w40 SS oil. Been using it for around 1k km now. Absolutely happy with the performance. Smooth gear shifts .. good on the whole .. only downside is engine gets hotter than before .. earlier i was using motul 5100 15x50 so naturally the engine was running comparatively cooler than with shell .. costs 290

i think changing grade is not a good idea. 10w40 grade is good for old ZMA
not for xtreme(low pickup, poor mileage, engine over heating-15% less lubrication)
Don,t change the grade to the one ending with higher value at the second part-after W

[Aneesh@4GHz]

You can try Shell AX 7 10w40 SS oil. Been using it for around 1k km now. Absolutely happy with the performance. Smooth gear shifts .. good on the whole .. only downside is engine gets hotter than before .. earlier i was using motul 5100 15x50 so naturally the engine was running comparatively cooler than with shell .. costs 290

i think changing grade is not a good idea
Don,t change the grade to the one ending with higher value at the second part-after W

I wont go over xW40. max is 20w40.

[akatl]

I wont go over xW40. max is 20w40.

are u tried any castrol products?
what is your experience with castrol?

[rajeshmushtang]

guys some engine oil recomandation for rtr 180 i rip my byk daily and change gears at 8rpm n travel foe 70km daily ?????

[Aneesh@4GHz]

are u tried any castrol products?
what is your experience with castrol?

I hadn't used any other oil till now,Many said that fake Castrol is available in market,so hadn't searched for castrol's yet.

[psr]

I wont go over xW40. max is 20w40.

The most important thing to note while going for an oil is to first check if it is JASO MA2 compliant.Second is to choose an oil grade closer to recommended grade..and considering our hot temperature conditions it is better to go for thicker oils.Old ZMA had 20W40 and ran well.Present recommendation is 10W30. The problem with thinner oil is under REPEATED heat stress , the oil becomes thinner ,and a thinner oil has lesser heat carrying capacity and hence lesser cooling effect.So it is better to stick to 20W40.A W 50 will be better but will make the bike to rev sluggishly.
Also choosing a smaller range ie.,20W40 10 W30 is better than choosing a wider range like 10 W40 because the Esters added for the value stability is more and it deteriorates faster with heat..just my thought