Helmets

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

I use earphones with music set to the lowest possible volume. I find that the wind noise is still on the higher side, but that maybe just me. The fit and smugness is an issue as I said.
I'm looking to move to the smk twister since it has speaker pockets and a double visor(I wear glasses so I can't wear sunglasses). I will also check out mt in that range.
Thank you[emoji16]

There is no such thing as a silent helmet , only some are more noisy some are less. Even high end helmets have wind noise. You need to use earplugs try the 3m foam plugs cheap and effective. And make sure the fit is perfect. I use a smk and there is noise from left side at high speed ,Mt is less noisy than smk and ls2 i have tried it.
Important this is what you have mentioned fittings or the smugness.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

Quick question.
I don't know if this has already been asked in the forum, but how does one know when to replace a helmet that has not been in a crash? I don't believe in the 3-5 year theory and that the polystyrene disintegrates from regular use. Suppose the helmet falls off from the motorcycle, does that mean I replace it?
I use an LS2 Stream Evo.

[Ijs]

Re: Helmets

Quick question.
I don't know if this has already been asked in the forum, but how does one know when to replace a helmet that has not been in a crash? I don't believe in the 3-5 year theory and that the polystyrene disintegrates from regular use. Suppose the helmet falls off from the motorcycle, does that mean I replace it?
I use an LS2 Stream Evo.

Minor fall doesn't affect much can call it myth. If the impact is good and strong then u need shell inspection and replacement if needed. I changed last helmet after 4 years.

[alphamike_1612]

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How do you inspect the helmet?

Minor fall doesn't affect much can call it myth. If the impact is good and strong then u need shell inspection and replacement if needed. I changed last helmet after 4 years.

[Ijs]

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How do you inspect the helmet?

Take a careful look at the are where the impact has happened . Look for cracks in the painted surface and see weather the cracks are on the paint or have reached the actual shell use ur cellphone light. If the paint is cracked and u can not see the anymore impact under it the try peeling off a little bit of pain or sticker to have a closer look. Remove the padding inside and check the inner padding or the inner impact absorbing white layer. Check the surrounding area of the impact point and the exact opposite side.
Usually nothing happens in a minor handle bar to ground falls as these are made to absorb heavy impacts.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

Thank you[emoji3589]

Take a careful look at the are where the impact has happened . Look for cracks in the painted surface and see weather the cracks are on the paint or have reached the actual shell use ur cellphone light. If the paint is cracked and u can not see the anymore impact under it the try peeling off a little bit of pain or sticker to have a closer look. Remove the padding inside and check the inner padding or the inner impact absorbing white layer. Check the surrounding area of the impact point and the exact opposite side.
Usually nothing happens in a minor handle bar to ground falls as these are made to absorb heavy impacts.

[Thamps]

Re: Helmets

No.a fall from the motorcycle won't compress the EPS liner unless there is a load inside the helmet.if the EPS liner is black,you can easily remove the foam liners and inspect for any dent or cracks as the EPS material underneath is white and it would provide a stark contrast if cracked or compressed.in case of unpainted EPS liners,you can visually inspect the same and from my limited knowledge,paint chipping in shell doesn't matter much if the EPS liners are intact.but if the shell has cracked,or the EPS liner is detached or loose,it is better to replace the helmet.this is the reason why it is advised to never hang ones helmet in mirrors because doing so regularly can compress the EPS liners at some point.you can check out the fortnine video below to see the reason it is asked to change the helmet after 5 years.

https://youtu.be/_nbQsnUvlo4

Quick question.
I don't know if this has already been asked in the forum, but how does one know when to replace a helmet that has not been in a crash? I don't believe in the 3-5 year theory and that the polystyrene disintegrates from regular use. Suppose the helmet falls off from the motorcycle, does that mean I replace it?
I use an LS2 Stream Evo.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

Thank you for the video. I stand corrected.

No.a fall from the motorcycle won't compress the EPS liner unless there is a load inside the helmet.if the EPS liner is black,you can easily remove the foam liners and inspect for any dent or cracks as the EPS material underneath is white and it would provide a stark contrast if cracked or compressed.in case of unpainted EPS liners,you can visually inspect the same and from my limited knowledge,paint chipping in shell doesn't matter much if the EPS liners are intact.but if the shell has cracked,or the EPS liner is detached or loose,it is better to replace the helmet.this is the reason why it is advised to never hang ones helmet in mirrors because doing so regularly can compress the EPS liners at some point.you can check out the fortnine video below to see the reason it is asked to change the helmet after 5 years.
https://youtu.be/_nbQsnUvlo4

[Thamps]

Re: Helmets

glad it was useful.

Thank you for the video. I stand corrected.

[vatsa]

Re: Helmets

Guys i am looking for an half face/open face helmet which has provision for speaker pocket. Could you pls suggest ? I tried in amazon and also online but couldn’t find any with the provision to fix my intercom. I am looking to primarily use it in city and Chennai gets really hot during the day. For the summers i ll really need those half face helmets and i plan to switch my intercoms whenever i need to.
Thanks
Vatsa

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

This question just hit me.
Users of Sena/vnet and the like, which has the battery on the outside of the helmet.
In case of a crash, how safe would the battery be? All of these use Lithium technology batteries and they are prone for fires if mishandled.
Have you ever had a crash(god forbid) with something that has a battery on the outside of the helmet?
What happened then?
I'm building a DIY light setup for the helmet and using a li-ion battery and that's why this question.

Now why I don't include action cameras here is, because they have these shockproof cases.



Also, I'm trying to select a new helmet.
I read a lot on the SMK twister and almost decided on it, but now am confused between 4 models:
SMK twister
SMK force/force steel
MT thunder 3
MT blade 2

I can stretch my budget to 8k.

My requirements are:
Speaker pockets
Internal sun visor
Comfortable for touring (say 3-4 hours without removing the helmet)
Mounting an action cam
Either the d ring or the ratchet is okay.
Also ECE certified is enough I feel. DoT/SHARP is an added bonus.
The pinlock offered by SMK is VFM. But I dont mind spending another 1300-1500 for a pinlock insert to give it up for protection of my head.
Graphics don't matter either.
Please help me choose.
Been breaking my head over this last few hours.
I use an LS2 FF320. (As mentioned earlier)
So would the SMK be a downgrade?

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

Try the SMK website, various models show bluetooth compatibility.

Links:
Half face

https://www.smkhelmets.com/open_face_helmet/Cooper

Hybrids

https://www.smkhelmets.com/full_face_helmet/Glide

https://www.smkhelmets.com/open_full_face_helmet/Hybrid_Evo

Guys i am looking for an half face/open face helmet which has provision for speaker pocket. Could you pls suggest ? I tried in amazon and also online but couldn’t find any with the provision to fix my intercom. I am looking to primarily use it in city and Chennai gets really hot during the day. For the summers i ll really need those half face helmets and i plan to switch my intercoms whenever i need to.
Thanks
Vatsa

[Ijs]

Re: Helmets

This question just hit me.
Users of Sena/vnet and the like, which has the battery on the outside of the helmet.
In case of a crash, how safe would the battery be? All of these use Lithium technology batteries and they are prone for fires if mishandled.
Have you ever had a crash(god forbid) with something that has a battery on the outside of the helmet?
What happened then?
I'm building a DIY light setup for the helmet and using a li-ion battery and that's why this question.

Now why I don't include action cameras here is, because they have these shockproof cases.



Also, I'm trying to select a new helmet.
I read a lot on the SMK twister and almost decided on it, but now am confused between 4 models:
SMK twister
SMK force/force steel
MT thunder 3
MT blade 2

I can stretch my budget to 8k.

My requirements are:
Speaker pockets
Internal sun visor
Comfortable for touring (say 3-4 hours without removing the helmet)
Mounting an action cam
Either the d ring or the ratchet is okay.
Also ECE certified is enough I feel. DoT/SHARP is an added bonus.
The pinlock offered by SMK is VFM. But I dont mind spending another 1300-1500 for a pinlock insert to give it up for protection of my head.
Graphics don't matter either.
Please help me choose.
Been breaking my head over this last few hours.
I use an LS2 FF320. (As mentioned earlier)
So would the SMK be a downgrade?

Smk force is upper model than twister, both the mts are better than smk twister blade is good but i need pinlock 70 over the helmet as antifog. Smk comes fitted with pinlock 30.
And ECE is any day better than DOT , dot is like isi it is a honor certification like a self certification following the guide lines. Ece is more stringent and sharp is also good and better than dot.
Smk twister has some wind noise entering from left side particularly the are of the inner visor mechanism.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Helmets

Availability of spares and better aftersales - SMK

Better fit and finish - MT (very slightly), infact SMK Force has a beautiful carbon-like finish on inner plastics.

Pinlock - Both support Pinlock 70, SMK comes with Pin30 pre-installed. (you need to buy a new visor for SMK to fit pin70)

Safety - Both are ECE certified. There is no bonus in DOT and it's not needed either.

Chinstrap - Both get a micrometric ratcheting buckle now. Older MT lids used to get a double D ring closure.

Inner sunvisor - Best on SMK Force.

Visor and padding prices - SMK is priced lesser, infact half or lesser, same for Pinlock sheet pricing, ratchets and so on.

Availability of chin vent, top vents etc (important for a daily, long term user) - SMK sells these, MT doesn't.

My advice - You can wait for SMK Titan if the purchase is not very urgent.

Goodluck.

This question just hit me.
Users of Sena/vnet and the like, which has the battery on the outside of the helmet.
In case of a crash, how safe would the battery be? All of these use Lithium technology batteries and they are prone for fires if mishandled.
Have you ever had a crash(god forbid) with something that has a battery on the outside of the helmet?
What happened then?
I'm building a DIY light setup for the helmet and using a li-ion battery and that's why this question.

Now why I don't include action cameras here is, because they have these shockproof cases.



Also, I'm trying to select a new helmet.
I read a lot on the SMK twister and almost decided on it, but now am confused between 4 models:
SMK twister
SMK force/force steel
MT thunder 3
MT blade 2

I can stretch my budget to 8k.

My requirements are:
Speaker pockets
Internal sun visor
Comfortable for touring (say 3-4 hours without removing the helmet)
Mounting an action cam
Either the d ring or the ratchet is okay.
Also ECE certified is enough I feel. DoT/SHARP is an added bonus.
The pinlock offered by SMK is VFM. But I dont mind spending another 1300-1500 for a pinlock insert to give it up for protection of my head.
Graphics don't matter either.
Please help me choose.
Been breaking my head over this last few hours.
I use an LS2 FF320. (As mentioned earlier)
So would the SMK be a downgrade?

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

From both of your opinions, I have come to the following conclusions.
MT if I want a lid immediately (which I don't)
SMK titan if I can wait. (Which I am going to)

However, do you know the timeline for its availability? (Has it released? SMK's Instagram page makes it look like it's released)

Also most if not all SMK dealers in Chennai know only of SMK twister, one guy even asked me if there was something called SMK force. I don't know why.

Also does anyone know where to find the manufacturing date on an LS2? I have been calculating it's its age since I bought it in 2017 and not from when it was manufactured. So I maybe wrong.

Edit:
To find the manufacturing date on a LS2:
It can be found under the red mesh lining which itself is under the top padding of the helmet. To access it you have to remove the top padding and a part of the red mesh lining(be very careful) you can re stick the red mesh if you want to.
Atleast this is how it is on my model (FF320)

Thanks for your help guys.