Helmets

[rohitmundra]

So you trust Indian govt officials the most. For me, i always put a question mark whenever anything related to the babus in the govt comes up. What options do i have in a ISI marked helmet. Studds and maybe steelbird.
If indian cos dont make what i want, is it my problem? I am not satisfied in a 1000 worth plain jane with a plain visor black Studds which i currently own.
If i get a fake piece in an imported lid, its my luck.

Hey hey Coolboy....Just be Cool...No one's blaming you or your helmet....some members are using the same helmets in delhi and they are happy with it...
whatever the discussion is going is on a general topic...So no need to lose you temper...

We all discuss these things for just one thing: It's our money, we are the consumers, so before buying anything very close to us, let's go through a thorough search and web is the best way to do it in today's date.
I appreciate you chose branded things in order to take all the safety measures while your riding a bike.

And yea some helmets in ISI are really good: AGV(mpa), Studds ninja, Steelbird(I use it for daily commute and very much happy with it)


PS: Some years ago, I never cared about the helmet I used. It's all because all these people here..their views, suggestions.. encourage me to go for the best. Hence, I gradually gained knowledge on these things and I'm still learning

[hifisharu]

All these arguments about buying certified helmets has really made me feel good about paying 7k for the KBC helmet.
I'm not bragging or anything but just glad that its money well spent, which other laymen feel is a big waste.

[coolboy007]

Then again, there can be manufacturing defects in any product. I have cases of Prestige & Hawkins pressure cookers blown up under perfectly normal cooking conditions. I have cases of finding particles in Kinley water bottles. That applies to every product.

My belief from the ISI helmets went off when my sister met with an accident when her Activa skidded and the Studds we had bought for around 800 rs gave away. One huge portion just broke off, the accident was small. She had fallen at a slow speed but the bang ripped apart the helmet.

Maybe now quality is better or maybe we got a fake lid but i was horrified to see a lid giving away a chunk like that.

IS there are an end to it? It applies to only chinese mfrs or even Indian mfrs. Whats the best way out for a buyer in a market, which brand should he pick up?

Hey hey Coolboy....Just be Cool...No one's blaming you or your helmet....some members are using the same helmets in delhi and they are happy with it...
whatever the discussion is going is on a general topic...So no need to lose you temper.

Bro, am cool only. The thing which irritates me is that even after spending 2k or more why cant we get a genuine product. Also, its useless to talk about my helmet is unsafe or yours is safe- whats important is to make sure when some other member goes to market to get a new lid he gets the most safe and best buck for his money. MAybe if i had been guided right, i might have bought something else.

We all discuss these things for just one thing: It's our money, we are the consumers
I appreciate you chose branded things in order to take all the safety measures while your riding a bike.

Yups, he showed me probiker gloves. Didnt like their safety feel, paid double the money and bought a* and i can bet they will protect my hands better than the probiker's. In Indian brands we hardly have any choice- STUDDS- hardly any choice for those who like nice funky lids with good tinted visors which are scratch proof. Thats why you go for other brands, sometimes pay more money and get less substance

And yea some helmets in ISI are really good: AGV(mpa), Studds ninja, Steelbird(I use it for daily commute and very much happy with it)

AGV is ISI approved? Didnt know that... Studds is ISI approved- Steelbird- hardly any lid which had a nice advanced look.

[burnrubbernotursoul]

[QUOTE=coolboy007;322858]So you trust Indian govt officials the most. For me, i always put a question mark whenever anything related to the babus in the govt comes up. What options do i have in a ISI marked helmet. Studds and maybe steelbird.

in that case i have to question our education as well and the degree that we have pursued coz unfortunately they are also devised by the "So called Babus ". no offence meant here just to put things in perspective. I never said i trusted the Govt most but when you see the specifications you will find that ISI is very similar to ECE and that's only i said. one more thing if the helmets are manfactured according to strict ISI specifications then it would definitely be on par with an ECE certified helmet. its very true that you dont have much choice in ISI marked helmets except for the AGV MPA, VEGA , STUDDS, AND STEELBIRD but thats another story.

look the whole thing was to give an idea about the safety ratings and nothing else. these are facts that has to be highlighted. rest people can do whatever they want to .I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR HELMET . WHAT I SAID ARE FACTS WHICH YOU OR I CANT CHANGE. We are here to share things and not to taunt you.so cool down read my post again and then you will realise that its about safety ratings only and things you should know about them.iam sorry if you think it was meant at you but as a matter of fact it was not.putting your words in a right way is important coz a lot of guys here are way way elder than you. i hope you understood my point. calm down and enjoy your helmet. that was just a piece of info which you can use in whatever way you want to. ride safe

noone here is taunting you.your helmet does look good and i hope its comfortable as well. i appreciate that you are concerned about your safety.1 more thing since yours is a rubber finish one, dust tends to accumulate on it very fast and once it gets accumulated its hard to wash it off. so as a precaution wipe your helmet with a damp cloth and a mild detergent every week.dont use detergent on the visor instead clean it regularly with a soft cloth. happy riding and take care.

[xionite]

How would we know that a CROSS or WLT "wont" hold upto the safety tests if we dont have the proof that that upon testing by US they got failed. The point here is that we have neither the proof that such lids are unsafe nor proof that they are safe.

Please provide any link of such failed test helmets wherein we can see and be more careful next time.
Whats a better option then? Stick to Indian brands namely Studds or Steelbird? Theres a lot of faking there too.

i'm not offering you a solution!

nor do i have any proof of whether a particular helmet is safe or not.

what i'm saying is... i certainly don't want to be asked to look the other way!

All these arguments about buying certified helmets has really made me feel good about paying 7k for the KBC helmet.
I'm not bragging or anything but just glad that its money well spent, which other laymen feel is a big waste.

is it DOT certified???

just wondering... on a serious note tho... wat certification(s) do KBC helmets come with??

[coolboy007]

noone here is taunting you.your helmet does look good and i hope its comfortable as well. i appreciate that you are concerned about your safety.1 more thing since yours is a rubber finish one, dust tends to accumulate on it very fast and once it gets accumulated its ha

Thanks for the suggestion bro, will take care to keep it clean though now for that lid my heart has made up "i dont care for you" attitude

look the whole thing was to give an idea about the safety ratings and nothing else. these are facts that has to be highlighted. rest people can do whatever they want to .I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR HELMET . WHAT I SAID ARE FACTS WHICH YOU OR I CANT CHANGE. We are here to share things and not to taunt you.so cool down read my post again and then you will realise that its about safety ratings only and things you should know about them.iam sorry if you think it was meant at you but as a matter of fact it was

Bolo yaar, WLT is not my co anyways. Seems its better to go with Indian makes then- east-west india is d best.
I was searching for a soln for such problems- i mean every xbhpian should have proper knowledge on which lids he should buy and which are unsafe with some facts but dont think its a problem.

Regarding the tone, what i felt i said. MAybe misunderstood you.

nor do i have any proof of whether a particular helmet is safe or not.
what i'm saying is... i certainly don't want to be told look the other way!

DOT and EC- both should go to hell. Anywhere we can know that the company's lid we bought passed or failed tests?

People say chinese lids failed tests, please provide the site so that am more careful in future and buy a nice lid as helmets are most imp.

will look it up.

Thanks. . Its better for the whole community so we blacklist some brands which have failed those tests.

[xionite]

Thanks for the suggestion bro, will take care to keep it clean though now for that lid my heart has made up "i dont care for you" attitude



DOT and EC- both should go to hell. Anywhere we can know that the company's lid we bought passed or failed tests?

People say chinese lids failed tests, please provide the site so that am more careful in future and buy a nice lid as helmets are most imp.

will look it up.

[RanjithMN]

after going thru the recent posts,i guess the only way to judge the quality of a brand is to experience it!

so members who had accidents pls do report on how your helmet failed/succeeded!

btw this is what vineetg84 (who is a helmet dealer) had to say abt my query

Hello Vineet,
I saw the post where you mentioned that you are a Helmet dealer,hence i have a Q.
I own a CROSS helmet but i want to know more abt the brand,i mean,are they a sister brand of some co.?where are they manufactured in?i cant find any details abt it on the internet.

Thank you

hi,
thanks for your interest in the brand.We are in the process of putting up our website..which should be ready by end of the next month.Cross helmets does not have any sister company.Its manufactured using the same material which is used in ARAI or AGV or AIROH.The whole assembly process is vast..material is collected from all around the world and then imported in india.thus,a product which is very reasonably priced compared to Airoh agv etc.We have a helmet made o carbon fibre which is used in F1 racing and its for 12k

[burnrubbernotursoul]

Bolo yaar, WLT is not my co anyways. Seems its better to go with Indian makes then- east-west india is d best.
I was searching for a soln for such problems- i mean every xbhpian should have proper knowledge on which lids he should buy and which are unsafe with some facts but dont think its a
Thanks. . Its better for the whole community so we blacklist some brands which have failed those tests.

Exactly that's why i posted the safety rating thing.we should know about the safety ratings so that we can make an informed choice.most of the time we are misled by shopkeepers who doesnt even know who provides these rating and why.this is more important when you are buying a helmet say for 10000 or 15000, then the ratings become very important coz you dont want to be taken for a ride.thats a lot of money for a lid and it becomes important that we get products worth the money we spend .i can understand your problem, i had the same one so decided to save up for a KBC.i am happy about one thing most of the xbhpians are looking to buy good quality lids and thats a heartening sign.

one more thing helmets are supposed to break when a significant amount of force is applied on it so that it can absorb the force of the impact and prevent it from reaching your brains.our brain in floating in a liquid called CSF (i hope you know),if the shell is hard say made of steel then what would happen is the helmet will transfer the whole force of impact to our brain and since our brain is floating the motion set in due to the impact will make it hit against the skull bone resulting in injury to our brain .outwards there may not be any injury but inside your brain is bleeding and that's why we dont have shells of steel.thats why its important to change you lid after a major impact coz there may be internal damage to shell which are not visible to the naked eye, and ofcourse it applies to the Rs 50000 rossi replica lid as well

[Devilpulsarian]

Bro!! i have nothing against any brand but the thing for which we buy helmet is for safety. i told about DOT because some members are vouching for the DOT certified helmets, without even caring to see if that particular brand ever cleared the test or how these ratings are given. that's a dangerous trend. i came to know about it when i was surfing the net to zero on a helmet for myself. and i feel others should also know this. i dont want to disappoint the boy coz frankly speaking i dont know about the brand that he took and it would be very wrong to comment when i dont have the knowledge of that product. Here we must understand that the members should be educated so that they can spread the right message.there was a lot of misinformation going about DOT and i felt it was necessary to clear the air so that members take due care before putting their hard earned money on that. its now upto the members to take up the comment in whatever way they want to , but i pray that they see the positive side of it. iam sorry if it hurts anyone's feeling here.i never meant it that way.my only motive was to let the members know the real picture.your point taken and i have deleted the quote so that the person concerned doesnt think that the comments are directed at him. thanks for pointing that out.

My post was not intended towards anyone buddy. Mine was a very general post. Yours was one very informative post with some very good links.
Anyways its nice to see people spreading so much awareness about helmets. Pretty good knowledge to gain.....

[Motorcyclist]

Guys, I had initiated this not to make people feel that they have bought something which is a waste but to try my bit to see people are safe.

My belief from the ISI helmets went off when my sister met with an accident when her Activa skidded and the Studds we had bought for around 800 rs gave away. One huge portion just broke off, the accident was small. She had fallen at a slow speed but the bang ripped apart the helmet

This actually means the helmet did its job pretty well. It is supposed to self destruct to dissipate the energy of the blow. (very much like a ceramic bullet proof armour).

[coolboy007]

This actually means the helmet did its job pretty well. It is supposed to self destruct to dissipate the energy of the blow. (very much like a ceramic bullet proof armour).

Bro, why should it break on a impact when a rider at 40kph falls on a road, crumple zones in cars work because they save the passengers, crumple zones shouldnt work even when you hit a rickshaw at 30 kph.

The helmet broke off and in turn it hurt my sister's face which was badly bruised. I mean, till a particular limit the lid should stay intact, what if the head hits a divider after the lid breaks off.

[rx100.7050]

Coolboy,
I have the exact same helmet & am quite happy with it. Yes it's hard to maintain since the rubber coating attracts lots of dust. But the helmet is very much stable at high speeds. I have ridden all night long wearing that helmet. Of course, like me, you too have a P220 which has the best lamps to work at night. So be happy with your buy. If I had more money, would have gone for KBC or Daijiya but this one is also good

[coolboy007]

Coolboy,
I have the exact same helmet & am quite happy with it. Yes it's hard to maintain since the rubber coating attracts lots of dust. But the helmet is very much stable at high speeds. I have ridden all night long wearing that helmet. Of course, like me, you too have a P220 which has the best lamps to work at night. So be happy with your buy. If I had more money, would have gone for KBC or Daijiya but this one is also good

"Helmet ki kahani, owner ki zubani"
Thanks a lot bro. I had got a lot worried about my purchase but now as 2 owners of the same lid have told me its good- i will agree its good and be happy.

Yeah, yesterday did a 100+ sprint and for me it was a world of diff b/w the Studds i had and WLT i got. Damn stable and NIL wind noise. Will take care to maintain the rubber finish.

Tinted visor also doesnt pose much problems at night. KBC is good but then everyone doesnt has 7k to spend on a lid
Thanks for your quick reply.

[Puneet1]

Bro, why should it break on a impact when a rider at 40kph falls on a road, crumple zones in cars work because they save the passengers, crumple zones shouldnt work even when you hit a rickshaw at 30 kph.

The helmet broke off and in turn it hurt my sister's face which was badly bruised. I mean, till a particular limit the lid should stay intact, what if the head hits a divider after the lid breaks off.

which studds helmet was it ? was it a full face one ?