Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[blizarder]

DSG Primal Gloves

I bought the DSG Primal Gloves from Orion Motors, Bangalore. I tried few others from the DSG, RJays, Alpine Stars but most of them didn't feel so good or they didn't fit me. I always was a fan of full gauntlet style gloves and the moment I wore them I felt this is the one. From the looks department the gloves look great with the carbon fibre shining up at important places, the white colored stitches and the dsg flowing like a marquee along the wrist velcro straps.

The quality of the material used in the construction is very good.

This was the first time I was wearing riding gloves and it took time to feel the controls. Initially the glove was a little tight but as I rode more the glove started taking its form. There was redness in the knuckle area during the initial wear but later it became comfortable. I feel the thumb part is a little bit inside of the palm area and it becomes uncomfortable during city rides.

The glove is comfortable to wear and I would say it would particularly usefull in long distance ride. Finger movement is very good(except the thumb). The handle vibrations that I used to feel have minimized a lot.

The dual velcro wrist straps are good but practically cannot be used over a riding jacket(in my case).

The glove has got some air vents on the fingers, they give some ventillation but I don't think that ventillation is gonna suffice during the summers.

The gloves surpassed a moderate rainfall with no water peeping issues so far. But it becomes chilled inside the glove after a while. Drying the glove is a pain because of full leather construction.

Overall a VFM beginner glove for the long distance rider which could handle nature's elements effectively and offer good protection.

[payeng]

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I bought the DSG Primal Gloves from Orion Motors, Bangalore.

Congrats the DSG Primal is one of the most protective and tough glove at that price point.

Has anyone bought/used the newly launched Cramster over knee and the Spartan inner knee guards? Reviews please.

Although I have not used or seen it, Spartan's inner knee guards design is inspired by reputed foreign brands and should definitely be more comfortable and protective than the Cramster knee guards, that are basic in design.

[B7ACKTHORN]

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Any particular reason for that?

I haven't checked either the DSG or Cramster suits.. in photos the Cramster Suit's color combination appears a bit tacky.

Personally I not much inclined towards the stuffs of DSG. I've worn quite a few of their jackets (not mine though) and really like the fit, but that's about it. I've known instances where new jacket with just few hunderd KMS on it, look so shabby and it does. It may be a one of instance, but apart from their gloves REVIVE and NITRO, I don't see much reason for me being inclined towards DSG for their homebrand, personally. But not to undermine, the stuffs are okay.

Guys,
as said earlier i had Spartan ICARUS in mind to pick it up this week,
but today one of friend told me tat, its not water Proof, you will get wet in rain...

i am really confused now

Need a good All weather jacket, which can work in summer, winter etc...

The notion to keep in mind here is that not all jackets are 100% waterproof at least the ones sold here. Be in A* or from any star all *textile* jacket do have a threshold limit, beyond that barrier it just seeps in. Now it isn't to say that there aren't any jacket as such, there are and they are sold abroad and they'd cost a bomb in Indian terms if one were to purchase them. You can check out Cramster Breezer, Cramster Eclipse and Spartan Odysseus, all these jackets are kind of all weather and do the job good with different linings in them for different purposes. But again not 100% waterproof for those heavy rains. If that's the case, get yourself a nylon pullover.

finally got a rain suit which can go over my riding jacket! monsoon woes are a distant memory now except for waterproof gloves for hands and waterproof riding boots. are there any waterproof riding boots available for a max of 6k ish? else waterproof boot covers from enfield seem to be the only way to go for me currently using quechua boots and while they are not water proof, they are water resistant and atleast prevent my feet from getting wet for the regular commute.

rain liner provided with spartan jackets works great and indeed can be worn stand alone, but no one here has commented on how ridiculous it looks while wearing such a short rain coat! knowledge from experience

The same goes here. Get yourself a nylon gaiter for complete 100% waterproofing over any boots. But also, when one is about to purchase a motorcycle boot, especially waterproof ones, look for boots that have less seams, the lesser the seams the more protection as it wouldn't allow the water to seep in (worse case scenario) But I'd suggest you look for the Rjays H2O boot. I doubt its avlblty now from Bachoo motors, but it is really an excellent boot to invest in.

Has anyone bought/used the newly launched Cramster over knee and the Spartan inner knee guards? Reviews please.

I think quite a few pages back Sird has reviewed the Cramster Knee guards. Spartan is yet to be reviewed

Cheers!
VJ

[payeng]

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Personally I not much inclined towards the stuffs of DSG. I've worn quite a few of their jackets (not mine though) and really like the fit, but that's about it. I've known instances where new jacket with just few hunderd KMS on it, look so shabby and it does. It may be a one of instance, but apart from their gloves REVIVE and NITRO, I don't see much reason for me being inclined towards DSG for their homebrand, personally. But not to undermine, the stuffs are okay.

You should then see my DSG Maze Jacket then.. it just goes on and on.. and is still going on and on.

Will post photos and details of what I have recently done with my DSG Maze.. my Maze is now the most protective Mesh Jacket in India :-)

[B7ACKTHORN]

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You should then see my DSG Maze Jacket then.. it just goes on and on.. and is still going on and on.

Will post photos and details of what I have recently done with my DSG Maze.. my Maze is now the most protective Mesh Jacket in India :-)

Well, you can say that again. Again, proper care even if one is abusing it, will help stuffs to extend their lives. I mean you know it right.

Cheers!
VJ

[Sunnyside_up!]

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You should then see my DSG Maze Jacket then.. it just goes on and on.. and is still going on and on.

Will post photos and details of what I have recently done with my DSG Maze.. my Maze is now the most protective Mesh Jacket in India :-)

A jacket if looked after properly should last for a good many years. I too have some real old timers in my closet. Some are not in use anymore but rather retired and hanging peacefully around like old friends. Call me silly but I don't discard them because I share too many great memories with them.

I am curious though to see what you have done to your jacket to make it the most protective! Please do tell!!

[Wolf26]

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Has anyone bought/used the newly launched Cramster over knee and the Spartan inner knee guards? Reviews please.

I did try out the spartan inner knee guard. It is very comfortable to wear. Doesn't feel any kind of irritation or itching sense. And it looks compact too.
But i m unsure about the level of protection it can offer. It feels a tad bit spongy IMO.

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I'd suggest you consider saving up a tad more and then going for the AGV stuffs. It's not to undermine DSG or Cramster as such, I know quite a few people who use Cramster suits and do track days here in Cbe. But for that occasional track day stuff, Cramster is okay, but if you're a serious one, I'd suggest you invest in better quality. AGV is the cheapest when it comes to track suits apart from their big counterparts. And quality and life, being AGV you can expect some. But I'd suggest you not to go for DSG.

Cheers!
VJ

Thanks VJ..!! Saving up, seems like a good idea. I had ruled out DSG too. But just to understand in general, How does your friend rate Cramster in terms of quality and reliability? I heard a lot of quality issues with the gloves, like the stitch coming off, minor pores in the leather and the entire gloves becoming non-usable in like 3-4 months. Hope its not the same with the Race Suit. Would also like to know if it is double stitched. A lot of questions i guess. But i m helpless..!!

[payeng]

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I am curious though to see what you have done to your jacket to make it the most protective! Please do tell!!

With pleasure. I'll be happy to share the details of what I have done with the Jacket.
Just give me some time to click the photos and post it here.

[Adarsh_Bk]

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I did try out the spartan inner knee guard. It is very comfortable to wear. Doesn't feel any kind of irritation or itching sense. And it looks compact too.
But i m unsure about the level of protection it can offer. It feels a tad bit spongy IMO.

The knee guard used in that is same as the one used in Spartan Odysseus pants. It is made by Knox and they are known to make comfortable armours, so dont be fooled by its soft feel, it is better than most hard knee guards out there

[Aditya Khaitan]

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Guys what would you suggest?

Rjays swift or Agv Sport Mission or Agv Sport Solare Or any of your preferences?

And will I get any Alpinestar Jacket within the range of 8K?

Reply ASAP

[Wolf26]

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If I remember right, more than CE approved level protection was mentioned. I don't know the technicalities about 'softer' material and protection, but I would definitely consider it over the outer knee guards once I get a user review. Itching, we'll only know after sweat or getting wet

The knee guard used in that is same as the one used in Spartan Odysseus pants. It is made by Knox and they are known to make comfortable armours, so dont be fooled by its soft feel, it is better than most hard knee guards out there

Yes, the knee guards are CE approved. So hopefully the sponginess is just on the feel. So in short, they have come up with a great product in terms of protection and comfort. Lets wait for some actual user reviews.

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Guys what would you suggest?

Rjays swift or Agv Sport Mission or Agv Sport Solare Or any of your preferences?

And will I get any Alpinestar Jacket within the range of 8K?

Reply ASAP

AGVSport Solare is a mesh jacket. Looks good, well ventilated and offers an awesome 'Fit'. It has a zipper at the wrist area as well as an adjustable Velcro at the forearm section and lower back for a perfect Fit. AGVSport Mission, even though a little higher priced model, it doesn't offer a snug fit. I felt it is less ventilated too. I would anyday prefer the Solare over the Mission.
Alpinestars base textile model, TGP Plus Air will cost you 9k. Even though I m using the same, I liked the fitting of the Solare better.

[chotu_r]

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But I'd suggest you look for the Rjays H2O boot. I doubt its avlblty now from Bachoo motors, but it is really an excellent boot to invest in.

Bachoo motors don't list it on their website. but they have 'highway boots' with waterproof aquashield liner. any idea about this?

The knee guard used in that is same as the one used in Spartan Odysseus pants. It is made by Knox and they are known to make comfortable armours, so dont be fooled by its soft feel, it is better than most hard knee guards out there

I am already using Cross Knox guards.... (hard knee guards ) and they slide around a bit..... not very confidence inspiring! and textile part used for sticking velcro sort of tucks itself into the top hard part of the guard when walking. needless to say, not very comfortable while walking. i am also eagerly waiting for a review of the spartan knee guards. Hope they dont have the same issue.


Guys, we talk about CE certified armours here but how are they actually tested? I would really like to know what abuse my helios jacket withstood in testing. More importantly i am wondering whether strap on knee guards will hold on or slide off on impact because my Knox guards are not very reassuring. Tagging [MENTION=29015]Sunnyside_up![/MENTION] sir to shed some light on this. Please share any non-proprietary information if possible.

[burnrubbernotursoul]

A jacket if looked after properly should last for a good many years.

yeah I agree to that.My oldest jacket is 6 yrs old and still going strong.However Iam more concerned about the armors. of late I have seen a lot of manufacturers shifting to soft PU armors , although they have better shock absorbing properties but they dont last long. They disintegrate over time, I have seen this happen with my Joe Rocket and SS jackets.In both, the armors lasted roughly around 2 yrs from the date of purchase.the SS armor disintegrated within a year and I was using the Joe Rocket ones in my SS jacket since then but that too disintegrated. Abroad we can purchase replacement armors for the jackets and these costs as low as $18 -$25 for a pair. However in India no company is providing replacement armors for their jackets. What happens when the armor gets damaged or disintegrated? Denying the very fact that it would happen, would be a huge oversight. I hope you will take this up with the concerned people so that they keep enough inventories of replacement armors, so that bikers are not made to suffer on this account.

[payeng]

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yeah I agree to that.My oldest jacket is 6 yrs old and still going strong.However Iam more concerned about the armors. of late I have seen a lot of manufacturers shifting to soft PU armors , although they have better shock absorbing properties but they dont last long. They disintegrate over time,

I have seen this happen with my Joe Rocket and SS jackets.In both, the armors lasted roughly around 2 yrs from the date of purchase.the SS armor disintegrated within a year and I was using the Joe Rocket ones in my SS jacket since then but that too disintegrated. Abroad we can purchase replacement armors for the jackets and these costs as low as $18 -$25 for a pair.

Mr. Sunnyside_Up.. any inputs on these.

Even I have seen the Sas-Tec armours on the arms of my friends jacket developing cracks after around 5 years of use.

[payeng]

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And another question which I had asked twice some pages ago ... what is the effect of rain/washing on armour, especially foam back pads?

One should never wash the jacket with the armours.. the armours &b pads should always be removed and then the jacket washed and dried in the shade.