Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[vickks]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Guys, need some info about cleaning the gloves and jacket.

I have a Cramster Breezer 4 jacket and Cramster Twister Gloves.

Using it past 4-5 months and dirt has filled up everywhere. I use it everytime I ride- office commute to weekend rides.

Now, even a short city ride with the gloves on would make my hands look like a mechanic's!

How do I clean it? Did not dip in water for fear of being leather.

[rusty_mechs]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Guys, need some info about cleaning the gloves and jacket.

I have a Cramster Breezer 4 jacket and Cramster Twister Gloves.

Using it past 4-5 months and dirt has filled up everywhere. I use it everytime I ride- office commute to weekend rides.

Now, even a short city ride with the gloves on would make my hands look like a mechanic's!

How do I clean it? Did not dip in water for fear of being leather.

I have a Cramster Breezer 2.0. To clean it I just soak it in luke warm water with detergent, I only remove the back armor and let others be. After soaking for a couple of hours I just rinse them, If the jacket is too dirty you can scrub it lightly too.

As for gloves I have DSG full gauntlet leather ones, to clean them again I just soak them in water and add a little lifebuoy hand wash soap. Let them soak for an hour and rinse. No problems so far. You can use some leather conditioner after rinsing if you want.

I am at loss as to which leather conditioner to use so if some one can suggest a good leather conditioner it would be of great help.

[krish2778]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I have a Cramster Breezer 2.0. To clean it I just soak it in luke warm water with detergent, I only remove the back armor and let others be. After soaking for a couple of hours I just rinse them, If the jacket is too dirty you can scrub it lightly too.

As for gloves I have DSG full gauntlet leather ones, to clean them again I just soak them in water and add a little lifebuoy hand wash soap. Let them soak for an hour and rinse. No problems so far. You can use some leather conditioner after rinsing if you want.

I am at loss as to which leather conditioner to use so if some one can suggest a good leather conditioner it would be of great help.

That is the exact example of how not to wash your riding gear.

You might as well now put the armor in the trash can and ride along without it.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[AmitRavi07]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I have a Cramster Breezer 2.0. To clean it I just soak it in luke warm water with detergent, I only remove the back armor and let others be. After soaking for a couple of hours I just rinse them, If the jacket is too dirty you can scrub it lightly too.

I am at loss as to which leather conditioner to use so if some one can suggest a good leather conditioner it would be of great help.

And here we were discussing if someone would actually dip their gears with armor in it.

Guys, need some info about cleaning the gloves and jacket.

I have a Cramster Breezer 4 jacket and Cramster Twister Gloves.

Using it past 4-5 months and dirt has filled up everywhere. I use it everytime I ride- office commute to weekend rides.

Now, even a short city ride with the gloves on would make my hands look like a mechanic's!

How do I clean it? Did not dip in water for fear of being leather.

Remove all armors and dip the jacket in water with mild detergent. Use a soft brush to get rid of dirt from extra dirty areas. Hang it dry in shade.

For Leathers, use a leather cleaner and conditioner on the leathers. I use Mr Leather on my gloves once a week, although, there are a lot of leather products out there. No need to rinse it, but, if the gloves have gotten really dirty (happens in case you have not cleaned in regularly for a long time) then use some mild soap and apply it using a wet cloth. Do not rinse your gloves in water, but wipe it clean with a wet cloth. Hang dry and when it is somewhat dry (still some dampness left), apply a healthy dose leather conditioner on the gloves. Let it soak and hang it dry.

[rusty_mechs]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

That is the exact example of how not to wash your riding gear.

You might as well now put the armor in the trash can and ride along without it.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Ok so you gave a judgement and probably felt smart, but care to add any real value and tell me how exactly I should care for my armor so that I can be safer?

And here we were discussing if someone would actually dip their gears with armor in it.



Remove all armors and dip the jacket in water with mild detergent. Use a soft brush to get rid of dirt from extra dirty areas. Hang it dry in shade.

For Leathers, use a leather cleaner and conditioner on the leathers. I use Mr Leather on my gloves once a week, although, there are a lot of leather products out there. No need to rinse it, but, if the gloves have gotten really dirty (happens in case you have not cleaned in regularly for a long time) then use some mild soap and apply it using a wet cloth. Do not rinse your gloves in water, but wipe it clean with a wet cloth. Hang dry and when it is somewhat dry (still some dampness left), apply a healthy dose leather conditioner on the gloves. Let it soak and hang it dry.

Helpful post and thanks. I used to clean my leather gloves like you have suggested but over time the sweat and some dirt gets inside the gloves, i have also been caught two times in rain unexpectedly so felt I needed to clean them from inside too.

I have heard about avoiding soaking armor in water but did not come across any such thing when I searched on the internet so thought why not..

Same with gloves, this method was recommended on many forums/ sites as far as I can remember and that is why I adopted it. And I dnt wash my gloves too often, once a year maybe...

Can you or others please provide me some links that explain clearly why dipping armor is detrimental?? I take these things seriously and need to knwo if I have been riding unsafe all this time. Not all the armor from the jacket can be removed so some of it will always be dipped.

Anyway thanks in advance..

Edit: So i came across some links that say that armor came with instructions from the manufacturer that it should never get wet etc. But the same link also talks about Fox armor that came with hand wash instructions. Soaping was to be avoided simply because it can irritate the skin.

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/archive/index.php/t-175134.html

Besides if armor is not to get wet how am supposed to ride in the rain, that's something I like a lot...

Experts help please..

[krish2778]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Ok so you gave a judgement and probably felt smart, but care to add any real value and tell me how exactly I should care for my armor so that I can be safer?

Mate, it was not a judgement, it is a well known fact and a statement based on understanding those facts. I can't help it if you felt it as making a judgement. The armors you find in the jackets here are not supposed to be washed, on repeated absorbtion of water it loses its integrity and thus it loses its impact absobption quality, which is the sole reason why you have a armor in the first place.
Now washable armor for like in offroad armor si there, they are just hard plastic which does not absorb armor, where as the armor used in the road using jackets are very much different, you an find the information easily in google and also a small search in the forum would have given you all the answer you need.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[Sal]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Besides if armor is not to get wet how am supposed to ride in the rain, that's something I like a lot...

The armors you find in the jackets here are not supposed to be washed, on repeated absorbtion of water it loses its integrity and thus it loses its impact absobption quality, which is the sole reason why you have a armor in the first place.

Well, i remove the armour befor washing thats not my concern.
But, like stated armour on repeated absorbtion of water it loses its integrity. Should one be avoiding rains then? (as quoted by rusty_mech)

[krish2778]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Well, i remove the armour befor washing thats not my concern.
But, like stated armour on repeated absorbtion of water it loses its integrity. Should one be avoiding rains then? (as quoted by rusty_mech)

It differs when its having to endure a bit of a drizzle and staying immersed in water for long time.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[B7ACKTHORN]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Guys, need some info about cleaning the gloves and jacket.

I have a Cramster Breezer 4 jacket and Cramster Twister Gloves.

Using it past 4-5 months and dirt has filled up everywhere. I use it everytime I ride- office commute to weekend rides.

Now, even a short city ride with the gloves on would make my hands look like a mechanic's!

How do I clean it? Did not dip in water for fear of being leather.

Fact of the matter is, it's pretty basic when it comes to cleaning a jacket. Though the instructions on the jacket provide instructions, washing that way, isn't gonna yield the results one needs if the jacket is "raped" to an extent. Now that being said, the ideal way to wash is to remove all the armor, and using mild detergent with luke warm water, and preferably hand wash. Machine wash is good, it cleans even more stuff pretty quickly, but I prefer hand wash if the jacket has stubborn stains which sometimes stay back even after a machine wash. So gentle dunking of the jacket in luke to mild hot water and clean the jacket whereever necessary, and dry the jacket in your washing machine dryer. And it's super fast, and gets thoroughly dried in less than 15 minutes after dried in washing machine. DO NOT WRING, let it hang dry.

Now coming to leather, you can dunk the leather jacket in detergent, not at all a bad idea. But how you handle the aftermath is what matters. First off, detergents remove the so called natural oils in the leather, and sun drying would lead to cracks and fissures which not only look odd, but also ruins the leather in the long run. So for dermal cleansing, use damp cloth to clean the glove, i.e. upper, palm crevices etc, this should wipe away 90% of the grime.

If it's mucky inside, same process as jacket, luke warm water, mild detergent and apply mild pressure on the glove so that the muck comes off, do this step as necessary until you see clear water. Wipe off the glove, keep squeezing the glove until excess water is drained and SHADE DRY. No direct sunlight or direct heat i.e. hair dryers etc. And after it's dried sufficiently, get a damp cloth with oil, leather conditioner is a big plus, else you can use coconut oil, olive oil and rub over the leather in a circular motion to keep them plush and supple.

Disclaimer: These are the steps I follow every time. Discretion advised.

Cheers!
VJ

[Arjun555]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Hi guys,
Bought a
MT helmet
Spartan icarus jacket
And spartan pegasus gloves.
Here are the first impressions..
MT helmet felt weird while wearing it for first few minutes due to the shape I think, too tight at ears but now it's comfortable. The air vents do not close fully but the helmet looks good, weighs less and is aerodynamic, wind noise is less till 100kmph. Tested it till 137 pretty comfortable and VFM also.
Just noticed its made in China

The icarus jacket is well made comfortable and looks good too.
Best VFM jacket I think.

The pegasus gloves are all leather gloves and have air vents on top they were comfortable and didn't feel too much heat but wasnt too cool either.
Overall satisfied with the products Thanks spartan pro gear.

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[Arjun555]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread


Heres the pic.

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[rusty_mechs]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Mate, it was not a judgement, it ....... the forum would have given you all the answer you need.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Fact of the matter .....Disclaimer: These are the steps I follow every time. Discretion advised.

Cheers!
VJ

Thank you both of you. The part about padding losing its effectiveness makes sense to me and I will avoid it from now on. I checked the armor with another jacket and it is same as of yet, perhaps because I have washed it that way only twice till now.

I still can't find sources on the net that explicitly state this but I will avoid it from now on. And to think I was not removing the armor only because I am too lazy.....

Anyway thank you once again.

[globe2ride]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thanks [MENTION=65938]Parimal Maheshwari[/MENTION], and [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] for your valuable feedbacks, I am fixed on the Cramster FLUX as my next glove. Called up adventure 18 in mumbai, and going to pick up my pair in my size on saturday!

Next on my shopping list is a pair of riding pants, and again, after initial screening with usual limitations/requirements, I have zeroed in on the AGV solare, and the Spartan Odyseus pants. I have seen the detailed review about the Spartan pants, earlier on this thread and on the internet otherwise, and the reviews were to both extremes. Although there have been no reviews about the AGV solare. Is that a good product? or so bad that no one buys it, and hence no reviews??

I'd also like to know something about the riding denims available these days, are those a good replacement for riding pants, in case one is not looking for waterproofing, etc?

Thanks in advance for your help!


Cheers!
g2r

P.S. I already own a Spartan Helios riding jacket, so does it make it mandatory to get a spartan riding pant, to fit the jacket?? I am talking about the attachment at the hip here, and is it so crucial to attach the pants to the jacket?

[AmitRavi07]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thanks @Parimal Maheshwari, and @B7ACKTHORN for your valuable feedbacks, I am fixed on the Cramster FLUX as my next glove. Called up adventure 18 in mumbai, and going to pick up my pair in my size on saturday!

Next on my shopping list is a pair of riding pants, and again, after initial screening with usual limitations/requirements, I have zeroed in on the AGV solare, and the Spartan Odyseus pants. I have seen the detailed review about the Spartan pants, earlier on this thread and on the internet otherwise, and the reviews were to both extremes. Although there have been no reviews about the AGV solare. Is that a good product? or so bad that no one buys it, and hence no reviews??

I'd also like to know something about the riding denims available these days, are those a good replacement for riding pants, in case one is not looking for waterproofing, etc?

Thanks in advance for your help!


Cheers!
g2r

P.S. I already own a Spartan Helios riding jacket, so does it make it mandatory to get a spartan riding pant, to fit the jacket?? I am talking about the attachment at the hip here, and is it so crucial to attach the pants to the jacket?

Sparatan Odysseus is a good vfm riding pant. They have knox armors and foam pads for hips. Although in one review on a website its mentioned that the armors are not good and don't fit correctly, I have faced no such issues. The armors are spot on in my case and the hip protectors are placed where they are supposed to be. Coming to riding in wet, the pants are not water proof and as with all their products they make no such claims. I have found the pants itself to be water resistant, but, water seeps in from the butt area where the dynatec layer has been stitched.
That being the case, however, at the time of purchase you are provided with only the warm liner. There is an option to buy a rain liner as well (looking at the website). I am sure after getting the rain liner it would become as water resistant as any other riding pants out there. I have inquired to spartan pro-gear on the availability of rain-liner, but, have not got any response from them till now. Will keep pestering them with mails and calls.
And at last the jacket can be attached with any pants that offer an 8-inch zipper provided for the same purpose.

I dont have any inputs on agv solare, but, by the looks of it, it seems good. Happy shopping

[globe2ride]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I have inquired to spartan pro-gear on the availability of rain-liner, but, have not got any response from them till now. Will keep pestering them with mails and calls.

Ignorance is something I have received from spartan pro gears regarding a small defect in the rain liner of my jacket as well.. Which is the basic reason for my apprehension about buying spartan again.. And quite a motivation to look for options..

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