Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[shivam0983]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

hey guys,

i am planning to buy some riding gear from revzilla. it seems they ship from abroad. has anyone had any experiences?

[somenath1061]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Solace also has svc in Mumbai and offers repair. Cheers !
TBG jackets are very good and sport all the way level 2 armour. But TBG glove, TBG sport is the best quality till date. It just asks for more thrashing haha.

Yea I have the sports gloves as well

[Astrix]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

The first and foremost fishy thing about you is that whenever I point out something, the Rynox website changes the description. First removed cordura from information of Air Gt v2.0 and now removed DuPont from Tornado Pro. Clearly speaks volumes about your association with Rynox.

Ps we haven't forgotten you pulling a guy for saying that Apex evo is not drum dyed and you kept mum later. Rynox changed information back then too ha ? We remember.

Secondly, whatever the material be, it is still not so flanky as Rynox which doesn't even care to mention denier count and the type of Cordura. We all know the marketing gimmicks rynox uses. Even if Solace stays to be proven wrong, what Rynox did by removing Cordura and dupont from website, by not mentioning type and denier count speaks volumes about them.

You want to buy brands ? All desi brands are new comers be it Rynox or Solace. And the thing about authenticity, Rynox is the most gimmicky and I know many guys with pants and gloves and jackets tearing up in 6-8 months, just browse through the forum and you shall know about it. Even Aspida uses Sastec and TBG uses sastec armour for their top of the line jackets, Knox does not cut it even close to sastec in protection as well as comfort. I guess you never tried a sastec laden jacket for that matter.

I would still trust my life with sastec over the crappy and choppy knox armour. Who knows the hard armour may harm me instead. I am more than happy to select sastec over knox. Many people trust unbranded armour over these brands and have done all of India with the 'unbranded' ones and jackets like Kross and Vega which are similarly gimmicky as a Rynox jacket.

You use Rynox, I don't use Solace or rynox except Solace gloves, have tried Rynox jackets but they can never keep a purist in me content with all the hidden stuff and gimmicks and things like Supergrip fabric. After removing Cordura word from the site, Rynox has lost all my remaining trust too.

God forbid, if I have to buy Knox in future, I shall rather go with Zeus instead of Rynox gimmick.

Guys trust the brands which stay on their words, the guy is trying to mention branding and all and then promoting brands that don't even use branded armour, much like Vikas promoting BBG gear. Stay clear of such people in your lives, manipulating information and being associated with a brand and promoting them hardcore on a forum.

Stay with better armour, it is your money. Stay with brands that clearly mention things rather than brands that remove information after 2-3 years of a product launch and change information after 2-3 years too. Who knows they may even change more information !

We as customers will always be cheated by these changes in information. Imagine buying a jacket thinking its cordura and the next day the brand changes its stance !!

RE safari jacket with sastec and Cordura with hang tag and sew label at 4500. I learnt to put my money, hope you all do. I won't promote any brand here like him.

I am sure of your brand association now and won't waste my time debating with you. People can well read my past replies and judge what is better. Level 1 over level 2, gimmicky information changes being supported by you. You think we customers are fools ? Wake up.

Cheers !

First thing first..its not WE customers..its US customers!

So now when I prove things that Solace is selling false stuff! Rather than commenting on the authenticity of material and providing some proof to support your fact like I did in my every post in the past. You simply choose to attack me. Please provide some proof that Solace is selling genuine stuff espcially their '750D' Cordura Ballistic !

Besides if they have removed the word DuPont (Why would I go to prove that DuPont Cordura and Invista Cordura is the same).If I had checked this I would have had not gone to the extent of correcting your false facts about Invista, DuPont, Cordura. You mentioned it here in one of your own replies and thus I just corrected your false facts of DuPont, Invista and Cordura. Btw so what do you have to say about DuPont Cordura and Invista Cordura. Nothing more to say ? (Becuase in your last post you mentioned that Rynox using Dupont Cordura which does not even exist and now you run away from accepting that DuPont and Invista Cordura is the same.)

And as I mentioned earlier "DuPont Cordura" or "Invista Cordura" are the same so how does it even matter? At least it's not fake stuff like Solace's 750D Cordura Ballistic (which never exists as per Cordura website). Please talk about this.

Have you seen your own posts about blatantly promoting Solace and this adamancy of not calling Solace a bluff of their so-called Cordura and gimmick about Sas tec "level 2" (which I again proved have not passed all CE tests) speaks volumes about your association with Solace rather, especially after so much of proof. Then you talk about ONGC Labs and then refrain from considering "Official" certification of CE Labs. Now you deviate the topic!

Besides I have been talking out of my experience of using Rynox and thus recommending Rynox. I also truly accepted the initial burn and then after adjustment of protector, it went away.
Unlike you who have not yet used a Solace jacket, but still are going bonkers about it. Your association with Solace is clearly visible from this.
Lol you seem to be referring to multiple posts by Anand to often. I do not even remember which memeber posted what. Does anyone here so vividly remember older post by 'other' members. While you seem to be referring to Anand's post too often. Something fishy! (Anyway I do not want to talk about this. I rather stick to facts as that is what other members would rather be interested in and even though you are associated with a brand you cannot deny facts. So let's stick to facts !)

Every time you are proven wrong you do not go ahead to talk about it. You smartly change the topic.

I have never spoken ill about Solace gloves as there is nothing wrong that I have found about it, till now atleast.

Now please talk fact (backed with some proof) and don't just baselessly tarnish brands just because you are associated with one. Have you seen me talking ill about other brands as much I did about Solace Jacket? Solace is selling false stuff piggybacking on Sas tec and I proved their gimmick (false Cordura claim) and thus I never recommend Solace jacket (they are just like Vega and Fake Alpinestar jackets)

Now if you want to reply please do so with facts about DuPont, Cordura, Invista and I am still waiting to know about the '750D' Cordura Ballistic used by Solace. Please talk about CE approvals of Sas Tec and keep this related to facts and not deviate topics.

Fellow xbhpian reading this would rather read facts (proven) and not our opinions (which you have developed without even using the product)
While you are baselessly calling brands gimmicky (without even proving a single false claim), just because you are supporting the other.

Again a false fact- RE Jacket at INR. 4500 with Cordura! There is none- https://store.royalenfield.com/collections/jackets

Again false Fact.
Aspida uses Sas tec in Nemesis (at 7k), while it uses Knox in the Helios (8.5k), Helios Prime (9k) and their Odysessy (10k). They use SasTec for the lower end jacket because Sas tec comes cheap as they have not "officially" certified for all CE tests as per my previous comment and email from Sas Tec. While they chose to use Knox for higher end jacket. So now is even Spartan gimmicky according to you?

I believe in the fact that I have proven and again Sas Tec is good but not as good as Knox/D3O. And as I mentioned earlier if Rynox goes to use Sas tec for limbs ahead, I would stay away from that too.

Now please keep this related to facts. Stop diverting topic once you are proven wrong and stop promoting Solace.

Solace is a new so-called "brand" as compared to Spartan, Cramster, Rynox, Viaterra (who I have checked) do not claim/sell false stuff and thus would not back out from recommending their products to friends. While Solace can continue with its fake "Cordura" products like the fake Alpinestars in the market.

From now on (Proven) FACTS ONLY!
(Becuase even though you are associated to a brand you cannot deny facts and that shall help us to keep this clean and informative).

[kashok]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Guys, Just want to understand. Do full gauntlets go well under the jacket at cuff area during rainy seasons for water proofing ?

[Astrix]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I have a TBG and it also sports level 2 armour. Rynox has service center in Mumbai in case something needs repair. Don't know about solace. May be this info helps.

TBG is a very good jacket. Certainly with the Level 2 back protectors.
But for limbs, you can upgrade to Knox or D3O as Sastec Limb protectors are not officially certified for all test of CE certification.


Not that Sas Tec is bad, of course, they are better than the unbranded CE protectors.

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Guys, Just want to understand. Do full gauntlets go well under the jacket at cuff area during rainy seasons for water proofing ?

No brother, water no matter what will seep in unless you have waterproof gloves. The normal summer gloves will not help.

[somenath1061]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

TBG is a very good jacket. Certainly with the Level 2 back protectors.
But for limbs, you can upgrade to Knox or D3O as Sastec Limb protectors are not officially certified for all test of CE certification.
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Not that Sas Tec is bad, of course, they are better than the unbranded CE protectors.

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No brother, water no matter what will seep in unless you have waterproof gloves. The normal summer gloves will not help.

Was not aware of this. Thanks for the info. Of course we should always go for protection that is certified.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

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I am not associated to any brand in any way. First thing. Secondly I would still prefer Sastec/D3o over Knox crap. Why you ask me ? You may show me T- and T+ tests but you fail to acknowledge that I myself have used sas-tec in colds of Nainital and the MOST IMPORTANT thing about an armour. That is its impact absorption technology and the way it behaves on an impact. Sas-tec is even better than d3o at this, let alone knox.

Also, do have a reading of this blog. Impact absorption and protection of rider is far important than not passing T- and T+ tests. (Sas-tec never failed it either)
Cheap ? Revit, Scorpion and EXO use Sas-tec armour.

http://www.teizms.com/blog/?p=87

You also forget to acknowledge the unbeatable comfort levels provided by sas-tec. There is no competition here. Sas-tec is just far better.

I don't need to prove my association or facts here, you are the newbie on the forum.
You have been changing the topic everytime asked anything. You mail sastec to know T- but can't mail Rynox to explain the type of cordura used ? or even denier rating ?

False fact ? RE safari jacket with cordura was selling at sale on 4500. Everyone knows this. I talked about sale thing already earlier.
Let's not even talk of Aspida here, what they use and what not. Nemesis, Helios prime have many differences apart from the armour used.

Yes stay on facts and do enlighten me about the cordura on air GT, as you said rynox is an older brand. Let's start at roots.

I don't know what solace uses but it is definitely better than Rynox supergrip and hidden cordura type/denier anyday. About abrasion resistance all these materials will have around the same abrasion resistance and you won't encounter failure point until you hit a sharp object. Want abrasion resistance ? Get leather ! Aspida uses it in some of the jackets.

Sastec is better than knox in all ways, no matter how much you want to deny it. Level 1 will stay level 1. About T+ and T- ratings, the back protector of sastec is certified and others are not officially certified but made out of same material, they never failed the test. Still better than having a Level 1 Knox anyday.

Stay on points now as you said, let's not bash brands as you said, I am not into brand bashing anyways.

Are you kidding me being associated to a brand ? Come man meet me personally ! I am purely not associated to any brand. I know only Rynox provides association as seen on many YouTube videos too. Remember Mojo baba ? BBG is another.

I will never recommend Rynox to anyone, being of a lower quality and mostly showing issues, be it gloves, be it jackets, be it pants. I have not heard of any issues with Solace jackets as of now, cramster had a problem with armour disintegration but that was unbranded armour anyways. Jackets I would myself pick Zeus/RE/Tarmac/Solace/TBG. Gloves Cramster/TBG/Solace. Pants from Tarmac anyday and boots from XDI. You see I am not as brand loyal as you and don't go on promoting level 1 armour all day just based on T+ and T-.

[somenath1061]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I do like the Rynox tankbag. The rain cover is partly falling apart after regular use in mumbai rain.
The tankbag is the only Rynox branded stuff I have.
I use TBG jacket, TBG sports gloves and scoyco MC10, Touring boots from Germot and Cortech Sequoia XC Pants.
I have friends using Rynox stuff and many don't complain much. Though, a lot have them have upgraded the back armour to Sastech

[Astrix]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

There is no point talking to you. If you can deny lab reports and certification, what can I say! To each his own!
Sane people who read this forum would understand facts/certifications and would certainly take their call.

I just wrote to Rynox to ask them about the denier count of the Cordura used in Tornado Pro. I will revert and let all know about it.
END OF DISCUSSION.

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I do like the Rynox tankbag. The rain cover is partly falling apart after regular use in mumbai rain.
The tankbag is the only Rynox branded stuff I have.
I use TBG jacket, TBG sports gloves and scoyco MC10, Touring boots from Germot and Cortech Sequoia XC Pants.
I have friends using Rynox stuff and many don't complain much. Though, a lot have them have upgraded the back armour to Sastech

Does Sas Tec Back go inside a Tornado Pro?
Sas tec Back (Only) is a nice protector. I have a tornado pro using it since a long time and this would be a good upgrade for me too.

[Chandan92]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

hey guys,

i am planning to buy some riding gear from revzilla. it seems they ship from abroad. has anyone had any experiences?

Revzilla charges 55$ for shipping, there's maximum possibility that your package will be held by customs and they will charge you around 45% customs.

[somenath1061]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Does Sas Tec Back go inside a Tornado Pro?
Sas tec Back (Only) is a nice protector. I have a tornado pro using it since a long time and this would be a good upgrade for me too.[/QUOTE]

I believe they have modified the armour pocket to the size and fit using some DIY adjustment.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I do like the Rynox tankbag. The rain cover is partly falling apart after regular use in mumbai rain.
The tankbag is the only Rynox branded stuff I have.
I use TBG jacket, TBG sports gloves and scoyco MC10, Touring boots from Germot and Cortech Sequoia XC Pants.
I have friends using Rynox stuff and many don't complain much. Though, a lot have them have upgraded the back armour to Sastech

Agree to this I was talking about the protective apparel. Tank bags seem to be good. A friend of mine uses one after my recommendation and its going good. I guess all tank bags slip (the non magnetic ones).
TBG jacket is just great ! And gloves, we all know they are finest quality. Germot boots, will have a look at them. Sastec is a great upgrade but needs a little pocket mod. Although sastec can be cut with a knife very carefully and it does not impact its performance.

[Koogly007]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Have been Looking into Riding Gloves Recently, Bought the Biking Brotherhood Full Gauntlet Gloves.
Wanted to share my thoughts on these gloves!

Hope this helps!

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Have been Looking into Riding Gloves Recently, Bought the Biking Brotherhood Full Gauntlet Gloves.
Wanted to share my thoughts on these gloves!

Hope this helps!

I had a friend crashing on same gloves. Here are the pics. His palm had some bleeding and he got a hairline fracture. The gloves are good.

[Koogly007]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Please share on them main thread rather than here [emoji19] Or share on universal riding gear thread.

I Believe this is Universal Riding Gear Thread...