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  • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

    Originally posted by MidnightEvil Parth View Post
    Rev'it also uses proprietary armour. And YKK offers warranty on zippers in case you are not aware. The brand respected the warranty. Simple. SBS doesn't as far as I know.

    Anyways this CE, non CE, I would rather pick a proper back protector from any good brand. Don't really need to write a paragraph on it. Rubber is the lowest I would snoop for a proper back protector, not as low as a foam 'protector'.

    Calling double foam as CE is crime, same as calling foam a protector. Simple. Stay happy with a foam 'protector' on the back and chest. Nice !

    A smart shopper knows things don't always 'fit'.
    And don't even bring me to safetech, exactly 990. Built to a price. Not to the levels of top notch quality. Though yes better than China protector level 2 that some brands use in 'premium' jackets.
    Why can a Foam not be called a protector? It is, of course, a protector. Just that it is not CE and the brand does not even call it CE.
    How can you discount how brands like Solace are calling non-CE protectors as CE and faking and cheating a customer.

    You have recommended Solace Defender jacket in your past posts. Why did you not mention the fakeness of "CE" Foam "Protector" by Solace?
    Foam Protector is not CE certified but you did not talk about or even mention it.
    Why did you not mention it that when Solace calls it "Protector" in fact not only do they use the word "protector" but also use the word "CE". This is a fact they sell fake protectors.

    Clearly, as soon as you have anyone buying a Rynox jacket, you bash the brand over whatever point.

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    • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

      Originally posted by Astrix View Post
      Why can a Foam not be called a protector? It is, of course, a protector. Just that it is not CE and the brand does not even call it CE.
      How can you discount how brands like Solace are calling non-CE protectors as CE and faking and cheating a customer.

      You have recommended Solace Defender jacket in your past posts. Why did you not mention the fakeness of "CE" Foam "Protector" by Solace?
      Foam Protector is not CE certified but you did not talk about or even mention it.
      Why did you not mention it that when Solace calls it "Protector" in fact not only do they use the word "protector" but also use the word "CE". This is a fact they sell fake protectors.

      Clearly, as soon as you have anyone buying a Rynox jacket, you bash the brand over whatever point.
      Foam can't be called CE ? Then I bet Rev'it is a bunch of cheaters haha ! They have layered foam at CE level 2 which goes by the name of Seesoft armour. Do study things once again.

      Also, Solace doesn't supply a foam at back around 8k.
      This dual foam thing is done by Aspida.

      Clearly you bash Solace for no solid reasons. Here is a picture of Rev'it back protector which is a layered foam, in case you want to see it.Click image for larger version

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      • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

        What good gloves can you get around 2 grand? I tried the moto torque emminent two days back on my ride...Its leather and not suited for summer...And though my hand size is 20 cm which is small size, the gloves bit into my palm so much, the blood supply was getting cut...Returning it to the dealer tomorrow. Is the Alpinestars Spartan worth the 3.5 grand...Cant find any review about it anywhere...Not sure if it will really protect the hand in case of a fall...

        The moto torque cost me 2.8 k..

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        • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

          Originally posted by Astrix View Post

          You have recommended Solace Defender jacket in your past posts. Why did you not mention the fakeness of "CE" Foam "Protector" by Solace?
          Foam Protector is not CE certified but you did not talk about or even mention it.
          Why did you not mention it that when Solace calls it "Protector" in fact not only do they use the word "protector" but also use the word "CE". This is a fact they sell fake protectors.
          I'm not promiting any brand over here.
          But don't spread wrong info about any brand.

          Armours of solace defender.

          For clarification a Photo is uploaded.
          You can search on the company's on google too.

          Last edited by Somesh1902; 04-10-2018, 06:19 PM.

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          • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

            Originally posted by vnsk View Post
            What good gloves can you get around 2 grand? I tried the moto torque emminent two days back on my ride...Its leather and not suited for summer...And though my hand size is 20 cm which is small size, the gloves bit into my palm so much, the blood supply was getting cut...Returning it to the dealer tomorrow. Is the Alpinestars Spartan worth the 3.5 grand...Cant find any review about it anywhere...Not sure if it will really protect the hand in case of a fall...

            The moto torque cost me 2.8 k..
            Do you want a mesh gloves ?

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            • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

              Originally posted by MidnightEvil Parth View Post
              Do you want a mesh gloves ?
              I think thats ideal currently....But it should have good protection

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              • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                Originally posted by vnsk View Post
                I think thats ideal currently....But it should have good protection
                I am using Solace Passion for myself, do try them.
                Also check Rynox Shield pro and if you are ready to spend around 3k, try Shima.

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                • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                  Originally posted by Somesh1902 View Post
                  I'm not promiting any brand over here.
                  But don't spread wrong info about any brand.

                  Armours of solace defender.

                  For clarification a Photo is uploaded.
                  You can search on the company's on google too.

                  Somesh when did I say this to you that you promote any brand?
                  I had said this to MidnightEvil Parth and you replied?

                  This Foam Protector is Fake. It is fake printing business.
                  1) The Protector needs to have the Part Number/Model Name as a mandatory process for any protector to even apply for CE certification.
                  2) Where are the part number and the name of the brand manufacturing it?
                  3) Check the Sastec Protector it has a Part number on the Sastec protector. Same with Revit. Mentioned the model Name- Seesoft and also the name of the brand: Revit (Using CE extension from the lab)
                  4) CE certification should also mention the year such as CE EN 1621-2: 2012 or CE EN 1621-2:2014. Check this on the Revit Back Protector, it mentions the year 2014.

                  This is exactly what I was talking about. Check the Revit Back protector. It has mentioned the part number and exactly how I mentioned it above.

                  This is fake printing business by Solace here. Buddy I am just trying to bring out the truth here be it Solace or Spartan or Rynox or Cramster.
                  Whenever you buy a jacket make sure you check the back protector for this information to determine if its fake.

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                  Originally posted by MidnightEvil Parth View Post
                  Foam can't be called CE ? Then I bet Rev'it is a bunch of cheaters haha ! They have layered foam at CE level 2 which goes by the name of Seesoft armour. Do study things once again.

                  Also, Solace doesn't supply a foam at back around 8k.
                  This dual foam thing is done by Aspida.

                  Clearly you bash Solace for no solid reasons. Here is a picture of Rev'it back protector which is a layered foam, in case you want to see it.[ATTACH]239944[/ATTACH]
                  Buddy do you study first.
                  The Revit back protector is made up of Memory foam which is used by most brand across the world.

                  The ones used by Solace are Eva Foam. I hope you know the difference.

                  Why do you not write to labs like Satra and Richotech and get information? I know it and so telling you. It's fake.

                  Also, why do you not have a problem with Solace using the word "Protector" in fact using the word "CE" for foam protector.
                  Last edited by Astrix; 04-10-2018, 07:56 PM.

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                  • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                    Originally posted by Astrix View Post
                    Somesh when did I say this to you that you promote any brand?
                    I had said this to MidnightEvil Parth and you replied?

                    This Foam Protector is Fake. It is fake printing business.
                    1) The Protector needs to have the Part Number/Model Name as a mandatory process for any protector to even apply for CE certification.
                    2) Where are the part number and the name of the brand manufacturing it?
                    3) Check the Sastec Protector it has a Part number on the Sastec protector. Same with Revit. Mentioned the model Name- Seesoft and also the name of the brand: Revit (Using CE extension from the lab)
                    4) CE certification should also mention the year such as CE EN 1621-2: 2012 or CE EN 1621-2:2014. Check this on the Revit Back Protector, it mentions the year 2014.

                    This is exactly what I was talking about. Check the Revit Back protector. It has mentioned the part number and exactly how I mentioned it above.

                    This is fake printing business by Solace here. Buddy I am just trying to bring out the truth here be it Solace or Spartan or Rynox or Cramster.
                    Whenever you buy a jacket make sure you check the back protector for this information to determine if its fake.

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                    Buddy do you study first.
                    The Revit back protector is made up of Memory foam which is used by most brand across the world.

                    The ones used by Solace are Eva Foam. I hope you know the difference.

                    Why do you not write to labs like Satra and Richotech and get information? I know it and so telling you. It's fake.

                    Also, why do you not have a problem with Solace using the word "Protector" in fact using the word "CE" for foam protector.
                    lol we are not the same person [emoji23] , moderators you can check it , i even don't knw him personally, i just wanted to clarify about the back protector that's all.
                    Last edited by Somesh1902; 04-10-2018, 08:10 PM.

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                    • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                      Originally posted by Astrix View Post

                      This Foam Protector is Fake. It is fake printing business.
                      1) The Protector needs to have the Part Number/Model Name as a mandatory process for any protector to even apply for CE certification.
                      2) Where are the part number and the name of the brand manufacturing it?
                      3) Check the Sastec Protector it has a Part number on the Sastec protector. Same with Revit. Mentioned the model Name- Seesoft and also the name of the brand: Revit (Using CE extension from the lab)
                      4) CE certification should also mention the year such as CE EN 1621-2: 2012 or CE EN 1621-2:2014. Check this on the Revit Back Protector, it mentions the year 2014.

                      This is exactly what I was talking about. Check the Revit Back protector. It has mentioned the part number and exactly how I mentioned it above.

                      This is fake printing business by Solace here. Buddy I am just trying to bring out the truth here be it Solace or Spartan or Rynox or Cramster.
                      Whenever you buy a jacket make sure you check the back protector for this information to determine if its fake.

                      This is quite informative.
                      My brother gifted me a Solace Furious jacket. It comes with a Sastec back protector so I am at peace. He bought it from Wild Fire.
                      Thank god he did not go for the Solace Defender Jacket given the fake foam back protector. But this really brings a doubt in my mind about Solace.
                      Last edited by praths; 04-10-2018, 11:06 PM.

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                      • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                        Originally posted by Somesh1902 View Post
                        I'm not promiting any brand over here.
                        But don't spread wrong info about any brand.

                        Armours of solace defender.

                        For clarification a Photo is uploaded.
                        You can search on the company's on google too.


                        Something is certainly fishy about this back protector..
                        I looked up Cerprotec and i i found out that its a french company that supplies motorcycle knee guards, back protectors, etc

                        What worries me is the Logo of Cerprotec. Please see the image below:
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                        This can be confirmed by checking the link that contains list of Cerprotec armours mentioned below:



                        Now refer to the logo on the yellow back armour

                        I don't know whether the yellow back armour is fake or real. Bro, i will advice you to ask this question to the solace guys since its coming from their jacket. Also considering the nomenclature of other CE Back protectors, this one certainly doesn't look genuine. Again, i maybe wrong because of my limited knowledge. We can discuss this issue day and night and still not arrive at a conclusion. The people from solace are the only ones who can clear this.
                        Maybe you can ask them for the actual CE certificate of this back armour. But then again, the yellow back armour does not contain any model number, so how can you check that the CE certificate is meant for that yellow armour ?

                        If they can provide armour that is allegedly not genuine, i doubt the authenticity of the certificate that they will provide (if at all they do)

                        Afterall, We are investing our hard earned money in buying gear thats going to protect us in case of a fall.. But if this gear is made of parts that are not genuine, then i would not be comfortable riding my motorcycle with this gear.

                        Bro, dont risk your life.

                        I dont own this jacket so luckily i dont have to worry whether this yellow back protector is actually certified or not. But for someone who is using this kind of jackets, please ask the company about the armours that are used.
                        If the company is being honest by saying that the armour is not CE approved, give them credit for being honest rather than bashing them by favoring other companies that are providing fake/counterfeit armours at a lower price. Don't forget that they are playing with your safety by providing fake/counterfeit gear
                        Last edited by madNS; 04-11-2018, 02:12 PM.

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                        • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                          Originally posted by madNS View Post
                          Something is certainly fishy about this back protector..
                          I looked up Cerprotec and i i found out that its a french company that supplies motorcycle knee guards, back protectors, etc

                          What worries me is the Logo of Cerprotec. Please see the image below:
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                          This can be confirmed by checking the link that contains list of Cerprotec armours mentioned below:



                          Now refer to the logo on the yellow back armour

                          I don't know whether the yellow back armour is fake or real. Bro, i will advice you to ask this question to the solace guys since its coming from their jacket. Also considering the nomenclature of other CE Back protectors, this one certainly doesn't look genuine. Again, i maybe wrong because of my limited knowledge. We can discuss this issue day and night and still not arrive at a conclusion. The people from solace are the only ones who can clear this.
                          Maybe you can ask them for the actual CE certificate of this back armour. But then again, the yellow back armour does not contain any model number, so how can you check that the CE certificate is meant for that yellow armour ?

                          If they can provide armour that is allegedly not genuine, i doubt the authenticity of the certificate that they will provide (if at all they do)

                          Afterall, We are investing our hard earned money in buying gear thats going to protect us in case of a fall.. But if this gear is made of parts that are not genuine, then i would not be comfortable riding my motorcycle with this gear.

                          Bro, dont risk your life.

                          I dont own this jacket so luckily i dont have to worry whether this yellow back protector is actually certified or not. But for someone who is using this kind of jackets, please ask the company about the armours that are used.
                          If the company is being honest by saying that the armour is not CE approved, give them credit for being honest rather than bashing them by favoring other companies that are providing fake/counterfeit armours at a lower price. Don't forget that they are playing with your safety by providing fake/counterfeit gear





                          I hope that the people from Solace have an answer to this question
                          I would certainly look up for it to the solace guys,
                          it would not worry me much as i have ordered sastec back protector,

                          i would also request all in the forum to look up for this in your jackets too , as many companies are providing like this type of back armour without any certifications, one of my friends have recently purchased the storm evo which has xy protector his also doesn't have certifications, will have to look into this.
                          Last edited by Somesh1902; 04-11-2018, 02:22 PM.

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                          • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                            Originally posted by Somesh1902 View Post
                            I would certainly look up for it to the solace guys,
                            it would not worry me much as i have ordered sastec back protector,

                            i would also request all in the forum to look up for this in your jackets too , as many companies are providing like this type of back armour without any certifications, one of my friends have recently purchased the storm evo which has xy protector his also doesn't have certifications, will have to look into this.
                            Don't say this bro. I am planning to buy the Storm Evo Jacket. In fact today morning I was at a store (during my lunch break) was planning to buy it after my office hours.
                            Will write to Rynox for the certificate of the back protector in the Storm jacket.

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                            • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                              Originally posted by ktmcrazy9596 View Post
                              Don't say this bro. I am planning to buy the Storm Evo Jacket. In fact today morning I was at a store (during my lunch break) was planning to buy it after my office hours.
                              Will write to Rynox for the certificate of the back protector in the Storm jacket.
                              You can check at the store too.

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                              • Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

                                I am going out for some air. Haha, a lot of talks over this. If any brand does a mistake, they need to show sincere apologies, we as the customer are the driving force for their success.

                                This is why I recommend investing and going with a jacket which has a proper branded back protector.

                                Imagine those brands that only have unbranded armours like BBG, Cramster, Cascara ?
                                They have unbranded armours on the arms too. Whoever asks for clarification from them ?

                                Also, stay away from Chinese brands like XY and YCF. They are the last thing you want on your body.

                                Go with brands like Forcefield / Seesoft / Sastec / Knox / Powertector / D3o or even Safetech for your own safety.

                                Also, this is why I never suggest jackets like BBG ladakh and xplorer. I do not hate those brands, but I do not trust armours in Indian brands which are totally undeclared.

                                Also, I will be making a list of my favourite riding gears across the board in budget.
                                Stay tuned !

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