Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[ktmcrazy9596]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Something is certainly fishy about this back protector..
I looked up Cerprotec and i i found out that its a french company that supplies motorcycle knee guards, back protectors, etc

What worries me is the Logo of Cerprotec. Please see the image below:
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This can be confirmed by checking the link that contains list of Cerprotec armours mentioned below:

https://www.cardy.fr/brands-332.html

Now refer to the logo on the yellow back armour

I don't know whether the yellow back armour is fake or real. Bro, i will advice you to ask this question to the solace guys since its coming from their jacket. Also considering the nomenclature of other CE Back protectors, this one certainly doesn't look genuine. Again, i maybe wrong because of my limited knowledge. We can discuss this issue day and night and still not arrive at a conclusion. The people from solace are the only ones who can clear this.
Maybe you can ask them for the actual CE certificate of this back armour. But then again, the yellow back armour does not contain any model number, so how can you check that the CE certificate is meant for that yellow armour ?

If they can provide armour that is allegedly not genuine, i doubt the authenticity of the certificate that they will provide (if at all they do)

Afterall, We are investing our hard earned money in buying gear thats going to protect us in case of a fall.. But if this gear is made of parts that are not genuine, then i would not be comfortable riding my motorcycle with this gear.

Bro, dont risk your life.

I dont own this jacket so luckily i dont have to worry whether this yellow back protector is actually certified or not. But for someone who is using this kind of jackets, please ask the company about the armours that are used.
If the company is being honest by saying that the armour is not CE approved, give them credit for being honest rather than bashing them by favoring other companies that are providing fake/counterfeit armours at a lower price. Don't forget that they are playing with your safety by providing fake/counterfeit gear

I have Solace Jacket but that one also I got it with a Sas tec back protector. But this Foam is a fake back protector, I also happened to read about it. The Motorcycle Rectangle sign is compulsory and also the part number.
Somesh you should go ahead and sue Solace for selling a Fake back protector to you.

And You are right MadNS, Solace may give you any certificate, how will you know that the certificate is for this back protector. And this is the reason why the back protector needs to have a part number.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

This is quite informative.
My brother gifted me a Solace Furious jacket. It comes with a Sastec back protector so I am at peace. He bought it from Wild Fire.
Thank god he did not go for the Solace Defender Jacket given the fake foam back protector. But this really brings a doubt in my mind about Solace.

Also, imagine the plight of people who go with Rynox 'protector' on the back.
Solace and Rynox need to be better in writing what they write on the website. Infact all the brands.

[ktmcrazy9596]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Also, imagine the plight of people who go with Rynox 'protector' on the back.
Solace and Rynox need to be better in writing what they write on the website. Infact all the brands.

I am not sure about what is wrong writing on the website by Solace or Rynox if they are writing 'protector'. I have seen both their websites and it seems whatever they have mentioned is fine.
For the jacket that I have from Solace, they have mentioned all the right information

But this back protector provided by Solace in the Defender Jacket as uploaded by Somesh is surely Fake. And I am saying that as a customer we should stay away from such protectors and brands.

With the back protector of Storm, I will check personally for all these signs on it as mentioned by Astrix in the previous post before I buy the jacket. Will keep you guys posted

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I am not sure about what is wrong writing on the website by Solace or Rynox if they are writing 'protector'. I have seen both their websites and it seems whatever they have mentioned is fine.
For the jacket that I have from Solace, they have mentioned all the right information

But this back protector provided by Solace in the Defender Jacket as uploaded by Somesh is surely Fake. And I am saying that as a customer we should stay away from such protectors and brands.

With the back protector of Storm, I will check personally for all these signs on it as mentioned by Astrix in the previous post before I buy the jacket. Will keep you guys posted

It is wrong since the foam can't be called a protector, call it a pad or call it a sheet like all EU brands do, call it a pocket ready for back protector ! That's it.

Also, about brands and protectors, don't go gaga over desi brands mate. You and me are using proper protectors, but many use BBG, Cramster, Cascara. What about them ? They have scope of improvement though, I agree.

About back protector on Storm, it is from XY, a Chinese, cheap, no name brand. I don't recommend that. Rather buy TBG which gets a sastec.

[ktmcrazy9596]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

It is wrong since the foam can't be called a protector, call it a pad or call it a sheet like all EU brands do, call it a pocket ready for back protector ! That's it.

Also, about brands and protectors, don't go gaga over desi brands mate. You and me are using proper protectors, but many use BBG, Cramster, Cascara. What about them ? They have scope of improvement though, I agree.

About back protector on Storm, it is from XY, a Chinese, cheap, no name brand. I don't recommend that. Rather buy TBG which gets a sastec.

Frankly, I do not find it odd that the word 'Protector' is used on their website- Solace, Spartan, Rynox, Cramster. Some brands have used the word 'armour' some use the word 'protector'. I really do not understand this.

Bro, I think the bigger problem here by Solace is that they are selling fake back protector or fake back armour or whatever we call it. It's just a nomenclature.
How can Solace sell a fake back protector? There are consumers buying these jackets for their safety.

I will check on XY too bro. I will always check before I say anything.
I wrote about the fake back protector by Solace to Somesh after some info about the back protector and after checking the details provided by Astrix above

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Protector / Armour. Whatever.

I have no idea if it's fake, only Solace can help on that. Just like the MT helmets case.
But it is surely better than mere foam.
Brands including Solace and Rynox should find a better word than CE rated armour for this one or protector for a foam.

They sell protectors just like Rynox says foam is a protector and as you said - Cramster, etc etc.
Protector is a big word. Most people read 'back protector' and they think it's same as elbow and shoulder, not the case here. Point in case a guy called GEtechnology or something on Youtube.
About XY, even if they print whatever, I won't trust protectors made in China from a no name brand like XY. Same with 'level 2' armours in unbranded form. Also for 'level 1'.

[ktmcrazy9596]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Protector / Armour. Whatever.

I have no idea if it's fake, only Solace can help on that. Just like the MT helmets case.
But it is surely better than mere foam.
Brands including Solace and Rynox should find a better word than CE rated armour for this one or protector for a foam.

They sell protectors just like Rynox says foam is a protector and as you said - Cramster, etc etc.
Protector is a big word. Most people read 'back protector' and they think it's same as elbow and shoulder, not the case here. Point in case a guy called GEtechnology or something on Youtube.
About XY, even if they print whatever, I won't trust protectors made in China from a no name brand like XY. Same with 'level 2' armours in unbranded form. Also for 'level 1'.

Using the word CE is a big thing when it's not CE. This is done by Solace.
Rynox has not used the word "CE rate armor", I just checked- Why are you associating Rynox with this?

I am commenting on the photo sent by Somesh of the fake back protector which he got with Solace jacket. That's the whole point.

XY as I said I will personally check.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Using the word CE is a big thing when it's not CE. This is done by Solace.
Rynox has not used the word "CE rate armor", I just checked- Why are you associating Rynox with this?

I am commenting on the photo sent by Somesh of the fake back protector which he got with Solace jacket. That's the whole point.

XY as I said I will personally check.

Why do I separate other brands from this ?
Calling a piece of foam a protector is right in your views ? Stop being a hypocrite now.
Both brands and more need to give sincere apologies.
Rynox has long done this business, remember the Cordura case of Air GT ? It was also me that highlighted it !

[Astrix]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Using the word CE is a big thing when it's not CE. This is done by Solace.
Rynox has not used the word "CE rate armor", I just checked- Why are you associating Rynox with this?

I am commenting on the photo sent by Somesh of the fake back protector which he got with Solace jacket. That's the whole point.

XY as I said I will personally check.

Buddy, I have mentioned the details that one must check for CE certification and which is a mandate. The back protector by Solace is fake. Do not fall for this brand. if they can use the word 'CE' for a fake protector. Rather we go for the first copy Alpniestars then (Of course not what I will recommend, we have many brands in India). But why use a product by such a brand who sells its jacket with Fake CE protectors.

I will check the same for Cramster and Spartan and all others too, hopefully by this weekend.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

And same goes for Rynox, a brand that calls 600d polyester as Cordura and later changes information on site after 2 long years.
A brand that calls foam a protector ! What joke !
A brand that gives XY china protectors ?

No, you won't be able to save any of your favourite brands from this fire. Be it Rynox be it Solace be it whatever.

We customers demand apologies from BOTH and all !
Also, do not fall for ANY of these brands until we get this sorted. No Rynox either !

[Somesh1902]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

And same goes for Rynox, a brand that calls 600d polyester as Cordura and later changes information on site after 2 long years.
A brand that calls foam a protector ! What joke !
A brand that gives XY china protectors ?

No, you won't be able to save any of your favourite brands from this fire. Be it Rynox be it Solace be it whatever.

We customers demand apologies from BOTH and all !
Also, do not fall for ANY of these brands until we get this sorted. No Rynox either !

True , no favouristism in this case.

[ktmcrazy9596]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Why do I separate other brands from this ?
Calling a piece of foam a protector is right in your views ? Stop being a hypocrite now.
Both brands and more need to give sincere apologies.
Rynox has long done this business, remember the Cordura case of Air GT ? It was also me that highlighted it !

Bro, You need to chill before calling me a hypocrite.
Besides I can clearly see who is acting like one, when you have a problem with the word protector and not with CE.

You have a problem with Solace using the word 'protector', I mean all brands use the word 'protector' or 'armour'. Its just a word.

CE is a certification and Solace is giving fake protectors and calling it CE. Is this correct?

People must have bought Solace jacket (just like me) thinking its a CE certified back protector or back armor. I would feel cheated as the brand and the shopkeeper tells me its CE certified and I pay extra thinking its CE certified and not buy say a Spartan or Rynox and then I come to know that the back 'protector' or 'armour' (whatever you want to call it) is not CE certified.

My friends had recommended me to go for a Rynox or Spartan jacket, I feel bluffed to go with a Solace jacket now man!

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Bro, You need to chill before calling me a hypocrite.
Besides I can clearly see who is acting like one, when you have a problem with the word protector and not with CE.

You have a problem with Solace using the word 'protector', I mean all brands use the word 'protector' or 'armour'. Its just a word.

CE is a certification and Solace is giving fake protectors and calling it CE. Is this correct?

People must have bought Solace jacket (just like me) thinking its a CE certified back protector or back armor. I would feel cheated as the brand and the shopkeeper tells me its CE certified and I pay extra thinking its CE certified and not buy say a Spartan or Rynox and then I come to know that the back 'protector' or 'armour' (whatever you want to call it) is not CE certified.

My friends had recommended me to go for a Rynox or Spartan jacket, I feel bluffed to go with a Solace jacket now man!

Everyone can see who is acting like one. Exactly.
I demanded apology from both.
I won't side in for 'protector' word. It is not just a word, as I said, most people think it's same as elbow/ shoulder protector when they hear this word.

Also about feeling cheated, people buy Zeus jackets with unbranded GP protectors above 8000. Honestly, most people don't even care. People must feel cheated when they come to know the back is a 'foam' and not a protector in it's sense, as advertised.
Same goes for CE thing. No siding.
What about other people going with Rynox reading protector and finding a foam ? Sad for them too.

[Astrix]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Bro, You need to chill before calling me a hypocrite.
Besides I can clearly see who is acting like one, when you have a problem with the word protector and not with CE.

You have a problem with Solace using the word 'protector', I mean all brands use the word 'protector' or 'armour'. Its just a word.

CE is a certification and Solace is giving fake protectors and calling it CE. Is this correct?

People must have bought Solace jacket (just like me) thinking its a CE certified back protector or back armor. I would feel cheated as the brand and the shopkeeper tells me its CE certified and I pay extra thinking its CE certified and not buy say a Spartan or Rynox and then I come to know that the back 'protector' or 'armour' (whatever you want to call it) is not CE certified.

My friends had recommended me to go for a Rynox or Spartan jacket, I feel bluffed to go with a Solace jacket now man!

Exactly my point.
Solace is providing fake CE protectors and rather than talking about this. I wonder how is stuck up with the word 'protector' or as you rightly said 'armour' etc.

The elephant in the room is Solace selling a Fake back protector and calling it CE (which is a God damn certification). Rynox on their website has nowhere written 'CE'.

This is like selling a helmet calling it ECE certified and then you come to know it was only a sticker and the helmet is not ECE certified.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Yeah side with your favourite brand. Nice tactic guys. Instead of demanding apologies, you decide to side up.

No more replies from me on this topic.

What Rynox did is like selling a bucket, calling it a helmet.

Keep being a hypocrite now.