Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

A query for the summer riding coming up ahead in a few months:

I'm getting curious about the adventure touring jackets with wax cotton outer and the necessary protective inserts which are available abroad under select reputed brands. They are very pricey to say the least.

Does anyone here know much about wax cotton's abrasion resistance when compared to the varieties of Cordura or 800D polyester fabrics used today?

My reason to look along this direction is that in the upcoming months of heat & humidity, a riding jacket with a protective outer shell with some sort of abrasion resistant natural fibre mix makes a lot more sense than pure synthetic fabric outers.

And yes, Mototech has a model with the construction I'm talking about - any opinions on the same?

TIA!

Waxed cotton usually is close to 300 or 500d poly blend material in terms of abrasion resistance. (Consider this a general idea, wax cotton doesn't hold very well from what I know)

It is bit too hot for warm weather, bit too cold for cold weather, not even as quick drying as polyester or cordura material, but good for water and windproofing (if the wax coating is good or new).

Waxed cotton flows with the body and is more comfortable in that factor.

And yes my experience of waxed cotton - It stick to everything and it stinks when wet.

Life of both is generally the same.

[sanjeet286]

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Why not mugello? I wore that a couple of times and found it comfortable also I've heard a lot of good things about it. What's your reasoning for not choosing that?

I met a guy who is a authorised solace dealer and he said he had the tornado and it is a terrible jacket in terms of quality and protection both. He showed me the solace furious and was convincing me to to go for that but that's 11k and wayyy beyond my budget. I tried the nemesis l2, tornado, Helios, and furious. I liked how nemesis and furious felt. The nemesis was heavy but the armors felt comfortable and covered my shoulders and elbows properly. The furious shoulder armor felt a little lacking. The quality however was a bit better on the furious.


I tried solace full gauntlets for summer and they felt nice but they can't be used as standalone gloves without the jacket. But man are they comfortable

Well, I know many riders who have Rynox Tornado and they are very happy with the jacket. Protection wise, you'll need to buy a L2 back protector as their back one is like foam. Elbows and shoulders are L2 Knox.

I also picked up my Solace Furious from a solace dealer and he also spoke negative things about Rynox and their customer support too. So maybe take feedback from Solace dealers with a pinch of salt (or maybe a little bit more). Though the Furious is a great jacket, there are small stitching and threads coming out (not a deal killer so far).

[Purnakalik]

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1- Helmet is as good as it gets for the price, try to buy a Pinlock insert with it, would cost you 1450/- but makes a world of difference during rains and winters.

2- Buy Raida Tourbine / Rynox T pro - both come with known level 2 protectors and a full size winter liner. Raida will be lighter than Rynox, both are level 2. Buy a back protector with it. (would cost you 1650 to 2150, both the jackets do not come with a good back protector, just a foam pad). Also you can wait for new jackets coming up, many have been showcased at Rider Mania Goa. (I expect January launches, will try to ask brands)

3- Waterproof gloves would be very uncomfortable in summers. I would recommend buying two pairs from the money you save from helmet and jacket.
* Leather gloves - Solace Bravo v2 is the most VFM and latest launch. ₹3200 for full gauntlets.
*Winter/rain gloves - Raida RainX or Solace Striker both are good and newly launched/updated.

4- Knee protectors are very restrictive and uncomfortable in my opinion. Buy a Scoyco K12 / Solace Pace knee guard for the time being and start saving for a riding pant. (both are different type of knee guards)

5- Mobile holder - RAM mount is trusty, others are finicky. Copies of RAM mount are available everywhere, do buy it with a good quality tether (rubber elastic).

6- Not much idea about paint protection available at your place.

Parth, do you have any update about the new jacket launch? I haven't purchased a jacket yet and am waiting if a new and better one launches.

[VaibhavPisal]

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Any location in Delhi /ncr where I can check out riding jackets from Alpinestars/denise and one of budget brands? I want to see if its worth it to pay premium for Alpinestars.

Am only finding online stores on searching google. Alpinestars/denise dealer location would be even better. Can't find it on their site.

[rideon74]

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Waxed cotton usually is close to 300 or 500d poly blend material in terms of abrasion resistance. (Consider this a general idea, wax cotton doesn't hold very well from what I know)

It is bit too hot for warm weather, bit too cold for cold weather, not even as quick drying as polyester or cordura material, but good for water and windproofing (if the wax coating is good or new).

Waxed cotton flows with the body and is more comfortable in that factor.

And yes my experience of waxed cotton - It stick to everything and it stinks when wet.

Hi, thanks for your inputs. Which brand of waxed cotton jacket were you using? I’m looking at the imported ones from Belfast or RevIt, with inserts for protection and zippers for airflow. They have a few models and pretty good reviews on YouTube from serious adventure tourers.

As this is mainly for my upcoming peak summer ride plans specifically, rain protection would be an oversized rain jacket from Decathlon, carried with me just in case.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

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Hi, thanks for your inputs. Which brand of waxed cotton jacket were you using? I’m looking at the imported ones from Belfast or RevIt, with inserts for protection and zippers for airflow. They have a few models and pretty good reviews on YouTube from serious adventure tourers.

As this is mainly for my upcoming peak summer ride plans specifically, rain protection would be an oversized rain jacket from Decathlon, carried with me just in case.

Belfast and RevIt are very good from what I know. I just gave a general idea of what to see. Goodluck.

[Astrix]

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Well, I know many riders who have Rynox Tornado and they are very happy with the jacket. Protection wise, you'll need to buy a L2 back protector as their back one is like foam. Elbows and shoulders are L2 Knox.

I also picked up my Solace Furious from a solace dealer and he also spoke negative things about Rynox and their customer support too. So maybe take feedback from Solace dealers with a pinch of salt (or maybe a little bit more). Though the Furious is a great jacket, there are small stitching and threads coming out (not a deal killer so far).

It’s a wonderful jacket- Rynox Tornado Pro. I have almost lived in this one for years now and also taken minor crashes (daily commutes though). As far as I know Spartan I have heard about bad customer service- This one coming from a user and not a dealer.

Rynox customer support have never really heard bad. Infact they are the only ones who are upfront to put up an online warranty claim wherein they directly interact with the customer. Seems quite transparent to me.

Else brands and dealers generally make you run from one door to the other to even get the warranty in process.

But as you said, the dealer you have you this feedback was a dealer of Solace so sure he is not going to talk great about Rynox as he doesn’t sell it. Similarly may be a Rynox Dealer will talk ill about Solace. But that’s just Indian brand dealers for us.

[akshaysondkar]

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Hello guys,new to this thread actually im not a frequent rider but want to be the one soon.so far i ve done small 100km rides and now i feel like i should have a proper riding jacket n gloves.so can anyone suggest me some good brands and yes i ve some brands in my mind namely scala,xdi and bikingbrotherhood. I have a budget of around 7-8k.your suggestions are most welcome.

[vnsk]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Hello guys,new to this thread actually im not a frequent rider but want to be the one soon.so far i ve done small 100km rides and now i feel like i should have a proper riding jacket n gloves.so can anyone suggest me some good brands and yes i ve some brands in my mind namely scala,xdi and bikingbrotherhood. I have a budget of around 7-8k.your suggestions are most welcome.

I have been using the BB Explorer for a year now....Its pretty ok, but a little heavy. Protections are CE level1 and the back on is just a foam. It comes with a thermal layer which is detachable. It also comes with a rain jacket which can be worn outside ( and the jacket has a pouch in the back to carry it), which I feel is more practical.

Rynox jackets seems to be the favourite among riders though atleast in Kochi, with most riders using them.

[sanjeet286]

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Hello guys,new to this thread actually im not a frequent rider but want to be the one soon.so far i ve done small 100km rides and now i feel like i should have a proper riding jacket n gloves.so can anyone suggest me some good brands and yes i ve some brands in my mind namely scala,xdi and bikingbrotherhood. I have a budget of around 7-8k.your suggestions are most welcome.

Jackets-
~6k: Rynox Air GT, Moto Tech Scrambler

~8k: Rynox Tornado pro, Solace Defender Plus, Aspida Nemesis 2

~11k: Rynox Stealth V2, Solace Furious, TBG Knight, Aspida Odysseus
Theres another brand DSG Evo but I don't know much about them. Good feedback though.

Pants either Rynox Advento or Solace coolpro. Aspida Protheus has recently launched but don't have too many details.

Gloves: depends on whether it's for city use or Touring. City use: Solace passion city are decent. Touring: TBG sport are good

Overall, please go and try the products yourself rather than buying online. They need to fit perfectly!

[akshaysondkar]

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Jackets-
~6k: Rynox Air GT, Moto Tech Scrambler

~8k: Rynox Tornado pro, Solace Defender Plus, Aspida Nemesis 2

~11k: Rynox Stealth V2, Solace Furious, TBG Knight, Aspida Odysseus
Theres another brand DSG Evo but I don't know much about them. Good feedback though.

Pants either Rynox Advento or Solace coolpro. Aspida Protheus has recently launched but don't have too many details.

Gloves: depends on whether it's for city use or Touring. City use: Solace passion city are decent. Touring: TBG sport are good

Overall, please go and try the products yourself rather than buying online. They need to fit perfectly!

Thanks alot.although i went for rynox stealth evo jacket and scala gloves.Both of them are super fine[emoji106].how ever the jacket is quite pricey though.in thane,mumbai it costed me around 11.5k and gloves around 2.5k

[sanjeet286]

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Thanks alot.although i went for rynox stealth evo jacket and scala gloves.Both of them are super fine[emoji106].how ever the jacket is quite pricey though.in thane,mumbai it costed me around 11.5k and gloves around 2.5k

Safety always comes with a price :-). I hope you have picked up the latest version of Stealth. Think it's V3, which has few more feature than it's predecessors.

[Astrix]

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Thanks alot.although i went for rynox stealth evo jacket and scala gloves.Both of them are super fine[emoji106].how ever the jacket is quite pricey though.in thane,mumbai it costed me around 11.5k and gloves around 2.5k

Stealth Evo is a very good jacket. Just make sure you picked up the v3- that’s the latest one and it comes with CE certified Ceros chest protectors and a level 2 back protectors which was missing in the older version.

Trust me you have paid for yout safety and it is always worth it

[ravi2m]

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This might be a repeat question but can't find a definite answer.

With limited budget of INR 7k-10k, I'm a bit confused whether to get a jacket here (a Rynox, TBG, Spartan or any other Indian brand based on good review from users) in India or should I get one from US (one of my friend coming 2 month later. But I'll have to order online and mail it to his address. And he has no clue about these stuffs. All this has to be checked by me online while buying).

I see that most jackets in US are at range $100 onwards with no major plus points in terms of feature list when compared to similar priced (INR 7200) products in India. So apart from feature wise, is there any major improvement in quality available there at this low rate? I saw few jackets at $150 - $160 range, but in that range (around INR 11500) I'll get a Rynox Stealth Evo or a Spartan Aspida Odysseus (and also other options) most of which are all weather with all kinds of CE-2 level protectors (knox or sas-tec, based on model of jacket). How do these jackets fare against similar priced ones available in US Stores.

In same context, I also feel like, it's better to get a non-waterproof mesh jacket for better air circulation and have additional rain liner (preferably external) rather than waterproof mesh (ones with some kind of wax coating) which is common in jackets in US. Please correct me if I'm wrong in this matter.

Hoping to clear my doubts here on whether it's worth purchase from US and wait till it is delivered or should I go ahead a purchase one here. If any better jackets are available at the price point in US, could anyone please point me out the link to it or at least name a brand and model?

[Kunwar.g]

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Rynox Stealth is a damn good jacket for the price if it comes with Knox/SAS-TEC. Due to current conversion rates , the jackets from USA wouldn't make a lot of sense. These Indian Jackets you named aren't far behind in terms of fit n finish. My Spartan jacket has been going strong since 5 yrs now. Only their badging at back has lost its rubber coating, fabric is still intact. A simple dip in plain water gets rid of all dust accumulated and it's as good as new. A wash in 6 months makes it shine.