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Aaha!!! what a contradictory statements?

Or you didn't know that R15 is just a 159CC engine?

You didn't even consider the ZMA/ZMR options!!! Its a 200+ CC engine my friend. You gotta believe me. I know you hate it, but for what? Its much better than P220!!! Besides HH does a good service, atleast, better than B.A.S.S. I don't in what way you hate it

Raghav, are you reading this?

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its 149.8 cc i guess

Sorry, you're right; typed 5 instead of 4 I guess.

Since you said you tour a lot a Cl500 would be better option the massive torque will come handy for those long rides

You have technically narrowed down your choice.
Can look for Royal Enfield Bikes if not P-220 or ZMR or NINJA.

i dont like hero honda. period.
its not contradictory. i have explained myself "R15 (overall performance wise and looks )". I just want to know if it would be as fun as the P220.
What is B.A.S.S.?


cant handle them am just 60kilos ! lol

not being in interested in hero honda has no technical basis but we have little choice even otherwise.
i cant handle bullets as am just 60kilos ! lol

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Abour fun factor in R15 compared to 220...Well, depends how you define fun. If its outright acceleration you are talking about then NO, R15 is slower than 220 in acceleration and around a 3kmph less in top sped too(true). But after 6k RPM its a rocket and its way more fun to ride it in any kind of road(be it hills or straights). The level of engineering that it carries is light-years ahead of what a 220 comes with(hence the price difference )

Have you ever tried the classic 500?it's easy
otherwise P220 rocks!it has everything

"cant handle them am just 60kilos ! lol"

get an R15. period..

if weight and height is small, Indian super bikes(Exaggerating a little):
R15 - sports
Avi 220 - cruiser

Am serious.
I wish I could loose some 30KG

take a long test ride of R15.. keep it in 6K RPM range and let me know, if you can even think about anything else..

+1 soumen..
aapke aur hmaare khyaal and timing kitne milte hein

hi mate..guess you are finally tired of fz huh?? are you still the same size or a little bigger??

i would suggest you r15 dude..its fun and its light and it suits you a lot.220 is a little heavy and trust me,it gives the jitters while cornering...maybe others can corner well on a 220 but the effort needed is more.

second i would suggest either a 220 or an avenger 220...the initial problems of avenger 180 and 200 are rectified in avenger 220..but if you dont like a cruiser then i guess r15 or 220 are the only options since you have decided against zma.ninja wont come down in any way...also there are speculations of a p250 by dussera...if you can wait till then it would be better...

Sorry to say this, why are you looking to change the FZ? What do you think the 200+cc would have the FZ wont have?

Since you said you are a tourer where do you think a 200+ cc bike would help you over the FZ? Other than the small tank, I do not find anything wrong with your bike.

And again, have you tried using the bike to the extent YOU could possibly use it? where have you toured with the FZ in the last year? If you still want to change, buy my ZMR - I will give it for a good price

Well from your question , guess you are in favor of including R-15 in your 200cc + category.

Could give an update on an RE and a Ninja, since I own both of them

RE is suitable for any kind of riding. THe new REs have almost nil problems and no oil leak that was part of the older ones. I personally own a RE350 Electra 5s and have done extensive touring on it in last two years. Approx 35000 kms. THere has been some problems like spark plugs and loose wires but nuthing which you cant sort out! Its an all terrrain bike but wont give you any rocket acceleration.

Ninja is suitable only for smooth tarmacs. Bumpy roads are a bit of pain and moderate off roading is possible. IT would give you the rocket acceleration you are looking for. YOu can cruise on highways at speeds of 140+ quite easily. On the R-15 and a P-220 you could cruise at triple digit speeds too. But both wont give you the sort of acceleration and speed like a Ninja! Ninja accelerates from 0-140 without effort and would do a top speed of around 170

So if you travel on smooth roads only and once in a while you do offroading you can go for any of the four (R15, P220, Ninja or RE). Then if you want good acceleration go for the NInja>R15/P220>RE in the order.

If you travel on bad roads+smooth roads all the time you can rule out both Ninja and R-15. The only choices you have is a P220 or RE. If you still want good acceleration then you should go for a P220.

So guess P220/RE arethe best options available for you (since you have ruled out ZMA in the first place)