Go for R15 or a used Ninja

A person who has driven FZ, will definitely get impressed with the power P220 has, but might not like the bike overall. When it comes to braking stability and higher RPM vibrations, FZ is much better than P220. I have done back to back TD and am saying based on that.

I also went through the same situation as yours and believe a long back to back Test Drive is required to judge the bikes. I did that and based on that bought R15. You can read the detailed TD for R15, FZ and P220 on my thread - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/what-bike/13168-p220-new-p220-fi-old-fz16-r15-4.html. This should give a good idea on these bikes. But again I would say you should TD yourself and then chose.

On the other hand, why not look at a used Ninja 250 R. I have read a few being sold at around 1.7L to 2L.

Agree with you mate.

I second that. Or better still take it above 7.5k rpm and let the bike surprise you. Since you are used to FZ, R15 is a good upgrade.

I think you should not worry that much about your weight. Its all about how well you drive the bike. Weight might play a role, but its not that much.

Touring = never done, but heard P220 is better
Gearing = R15
Suspension = R15

No offence!!!
I got that Idea from what you have posted...anyway R15 is a great bike for your physique,good that you have choosed that.
But if budget is not a constraint, you should go for 250R...FZ to R15 isn't a noticable upgrade
And yes...ZMA or Karizma is offcourse not the end of the world, Its the starting point of a true biking world

why is the zma out???
i had a different reason rejecting the zma but thats a different topic altogether.

as far as i a figuring out here is you basically want a 220 but want to others to reinforce your decision. ( no offence there.. just kidding )


220 is a very good bike if touring and city riding is your priority. in general it is a more sensible choice for a money you spendand if you are a sort of a sensible guy. it has the projectors, has a higher cc engine, has a good powerband in short it is almost everything that you would want from a bike.
(note, i said almost since what it does not have is in the zma or the r15.. the reliability and the fuss free mechanicals)


however, if you are a complete lunatic and are bonkers bout ripping and have been bitten by the cornering bug, close your eyes and book a r15.. nothing gives you the performance the way she does..
mind you there is nothing wrong in being bonkers cos the way the r15 performs is just untouchable for the 220.

i would like to put a quote here

"the means to get to the destination is more important than the destination themselves"

if speed and comfort is your destination, get the 220
if fun in reaching the destination is what you want then get the r15.

if i had all the money i wanted,i would get a zma engine and put it in my bike (hunk)


if however you started this thread thinking "ok so i think i want a new bike and let me ask if there is anything that i can think of purchasing"

then dont worry, wait for the 250 as perrineal it seems it is... I guess it will be launched this diwali or the next holi or the next independence day or the next diwali and so forth....

if you are waiting for the diwali then look forward to the rtr hyperedge ie 250cc apache

There is one more major difference when comparing between R15 and P220. Thats the higher rpm response and vibrations. You can start feeling the difference 7k rpm. R15 enjoys this rpm territory. I would like to repeat that after driving FZ a person might not like vibrations in P220 at higher rpms.

R15 is a 150 cc bike. So, forget it !

Only option for you is Pulsar 220 or Ninja if you can spend that much.

Or else you could go for Bullet Thunderbird.

Just take a test drive and buy the one your love most.

Dude, Go for the karizma zmr if you want fuel injection. If you don't like the looks go for the zma. Karizma gives very less maintanence problems and is a very stable bike. Go for the pulsar 220 f if you are big made and do more highway riding. go for the 220s if you want looks and better handling in city traffic. Both bikes deliver big on performance.
If you have no financial restraints please buy the ninja 250 it costs around 3 lakhs if i'm not mistaken. Royal enfield Classic 350 & classic 500 are other options. Both bikes look sweet but don't go for the bullet and expect it to handle like a pulsar. It'll be demand more refined and matured riding from you and is very very reliable.

Rest is upto you.





Buddy, you have any source for that info? I heard the hyperedge is only 160cc. Even this is hearsay.

Why not R15 then? Same power, in a much lighter and nice package. R15 will be a better choice IMO.

+1, Even I also remember HyperEdge is 160cc.

Coz a 150cc would be only 150cc and can't be 200+ cc

One of the best bikes of Yamaha with low price and good looks is R6. Only in 6 lakhs with 600cc engine.

Get me a 2005 onwards r6 with 0 miles for 6 lakhs in india (with all duties paid) and you can have my R15 as a gift. (then again you might not want an R15 "Coz a 150cc would be only 150cc and can't be 200+ cc" )right??

I request you to please answer my question.

Which one is powerful 1000CC car that produces 55 BHP power or 800CC car that produces 50 BHP power ?

Well, I can't !
I don't have any shop!

Better ask it from Yamaha showrooms!

Still waiting for your answer to my question.

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even if ninja falls on me its fairing will protect me from the heat.. i mean you get it na.. if a bullet falls on you even if you can pick it up, the heat (if ur legs get stuck near the engine) will not allow you, all you can do is shout.. lol scary scene !!


Bro, if fall is the only reason RE is out of your list, it isn't good justice for the motorcycle. We have had falls with RE; some really nasty ones. Trust me, a good crash-guard would be enough. An air-fly guard ( the one you see in most bullets) would give you good gap between the engine & the land surface incase of a fall to wriggle out safely. And heat isn't really a great issue for an open engine as long as you dont touch it for prolonged time (read a good few seconds). A fall will be over by 3 to 4 seconds unless offcourse its off slope. But then, what good would be other bikes ?

And handling wise, RE is GREAT. If respectful riding is what you do normally, I may risk to say only few bikes handle better than an RE. That's TRUE. Your weight really won't matter much.

However, if rallying is what you are looking at, RE isn't GAME.

Mods, Read the post of initiator of this thread as he refrained from buying one & kindly close the same. Thanks.

yes it is true. i have indefinitely differed my purchase due to financial constraint caused by my dad losing his bike. i thank all for your valuable comments. i should have closed this thread earlier. sorry for that. anyway things are looking up for the 200+cc segment with the mahindra 300cc bike coming soon ! maybe next year..