Budget upto 1L, Details in thread

[amandeepkamboj19]

It took me about a year to get good price for my TB. Now finally it is sold.
In the past year many bikes were launched and accordingly my preferences have changed.
Please fellows suggest me some thing.
I am looking forward to buy new bike.
Budget up to 1.5 lakh. 40000 will be down payment rest will be EMI
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Dialy riding -40km (mainly city, bumpy roads, moderate traffice)
120km on weekends (smooth link road)

Bellow are the requirements.

1. Good millage(35+ will do)
2. Very reliable machine. Do not want to see service centre for any other reason but servicing.
3. Personally i love torque more then bhp?(may be because i have never had any other bike but RE's, But this can be changed if i get more fun riding my new machine)
4. Decent acceleration. Wild acc will be preferred it confidence level is high.
5. Head turner.
6. 150cc or +
7. Want to enjoy it in city as well as on highway.
8. Pillion should feel comfortable while touring.

I am fed up of my RE after sales expenses and now i want a reliable bike with minimum after sale expenses, i dont want any unexpected expense once i borrow it?

Machines i dont like are ZMR, Dazzler(no offence to owners, these machines are good but not my type).

Please guide me to right machine.

[sunilg]

Query approved.

[xionite]

looks like u've just described a P220... which will give you everything u're looking for.

torque... an under 1 lac price-tag... 35-40 kmpl mileage... and it's pretty reliable too.

if you can wait & save up for the CBR250R by August...

then u'll get a bike that's a head turner too.

[2strokerama]

Looks like youve ruled out most options that would benefit from your budget

Since youre looking to ride 40+ kms daily in all kinds of roads , I guess you're looking for a nice smooth ride. Wild acc, head turner, low maintainance etc would be secondary I suppose. Now, you cant expect to have them all in one bike(somewhat because your couple of your criteria is subjective). Heres your options:

1> Suzuki GS150R.... I've owned one for more than 6 months now. Great comfort and smooth ride, good mileage(not on mine but its a general consensus), low maintainance(my opinion), great for highways, decent but not wild acc.
A couple of points to note would be that its apparently not very comfortable for short or skinny riders owing to its height and weight because of which some people find it hard to manage in tight traffic. Personally I find its handling brilliant (I guess its a matter of getting used to).

2> Yamaha FZ / Fazer.... Great ride and handling, good acceleration(its got the most torque among 150s), no idea on maintainance(insurance is a pickle because of the abounding fibre and plastics on it), decent on a highway, definite head turner, ok mileage.

3> TVS Apache 160/180.... Brilliant acceleration, nice handling, ok ride(lots of vibrations at higher speeds), ok mileage, a head turner if one can do something about that fairing, no idea on maintainance, no idea about highway riding.

Generally, most bikes nowadays are tough and low on general maintainance...but you might get an occasional lemon depending on your luck.

The above would be my personal preferences. Then theres the rest...

Bajaj...the pulsar and avenger 220
Yamaha SZ.... a budget 150
HH...the hunk and CBZ X.

All of these more or less fit your criteria...Id lean towards P220 among the rest but you might want to try avenger 220 since you had a RE.

Take a test drive of what you shortlist before you buy...nothing beats personal appraisal. Good luck.

[Garry_Menace]

Looks like youve ruled out most options that would benefit from your budget

Since youre looking to ride 40+ kms daily in all kinds of roads , I guess you're looking for a nice smooth ride. Wild acc, head turner, low maintainance etc would be secondary I suppose. Now, you cant expect to have them all in one bike(somewhat because your couple of your criteria is subjective). Heres your options:

1> Suzuki GS150R.... I've owned one for more than 6 months now. Great comfort and smooth ride, good mileage(not on mine but its a general consensus), low maintainance(my opinion), great for highways, decent but not wild acc.
A couple of points to note would be that its apparently not very comfortable for short or skinny riders owing to its height and weight because of which some people find it hard to manage in tight traffic. Personally I find its handling brilliant (I guess its a matter of getting used to).

2> Yamaha FZ / Fazer.... Great ride and handling, good acceleration(its got the most torque among 150s), no idea on maintainance(insurance is a pickle because of the abounding fibre and plastics on it), decent on a highway, definite head turner, ok mileage.

3> TVS Apache 160/180.... Brilliant acceleration, nice handling, ok ride(lots of vibrations at higher speeds), ok mileage, a head turner if one can do something about that fairing, no idea on maintainance, no idea about highway riding.

Generally, most bikes nowadays are tough and low on general maintainance...but you might get an occasional lemon depending on your luck.

The above would be my personal preferences. Then theres the rest...

Bajaj...the pulsar and avenger 220
Yamaha SZ.... a budget 150
HH...the hunk and CBZ X.

All of these more or less fit your criteria...Id lean towards P220 among the rest but you might want to try avenger 220 since you had a RE.

Take a test drive of what you shortlist before you buy...nothing beats personal appraisal. Good luck.

It was a nice reply by 2strokerama, but I would like to redescribe EZ/Fazer and RTR180 here.

FZ/Fazer: Considered as a wonderful looking machine, also its really smooth ride, being a Yammie I don't think it requires any clarification on reliability fornt. But, I didn't find it interesting in terms of acceleration. Surely its not bad at it but not that good to count it as a good acceleration machine, let alone wild acceleration then . Also, on highway rides, its okay if you are patient enough to let it go calmly to the cruising speed once brought down due to obvious reasons. I found it to be a little lazy when it climbs above 70kmph (some might say 80+ and some might 60). However, if you want smoothness and don't go 70+ usually then its a great machine to have



RTR 180: I just love this machine (I love it not coz I own it, but I own it coz I loved it ). Reason being superb and wild acceleration, quite decently distributed torpue which pulls it effortlessly in all gears even to higher speeds. On handling front, I think its the best after R15. Mileage... I get around 38-42 depending on how did I ride it, gives 38 easily even if I ride it a bit insanely . About Highway riding, I've done trips doing 300+ kms. in single day till now on it and never had any problem. It doesn't loose acceleration even high high speeds. But, being an unbiased person, let me tell you If you can't bear the vibration thingie then don't go for it. Yes it vibrates and some people don't like it but I'm okay with it and I was quite a natural thing to adapt it for me. If I'm getting great amount of power and acceleration with this, I don't have problems.


And, I would also suggest you to consider P220 but as everybody knows and says, It may make you go round round to SVC

About Suzuki GS150, I would not comment much coz neither I own it nor did I ride it. But, as much as I heard, its a decent machine and Mr. 2strokerama described it nicely


Anyways, nice to see another Kamboj here. Generally, we don't find any Kamboj easily specially in Delhi and all.

[Puneet1]

Pulsar 220 faired or the RTR 180 abs and i guess you can tolerate rtr vibes since you are an ex bullet owner

[princesirohi]

looks like u've just described a P220... which will give you everything u're looking for.

torque... an under 1 lac price-tag... 35-40 kmpl mileage... and it's pretty reliable too.

if you can wait & save up for the CBR250R by August...

then u'll get a bike that's a head turner too.

+1 to this...............

[amandeepkamboj19]

@sunilg
Thanks for approval.

For me reliablity is at first place.
I just want a problem free bike but what i have experienced with RE, every single bike seems problem free.

I like 220 but i want refined machine.
I am looking for a machine which i will be retaining for atleast 7 yrs.

My minde is thinking of cbr(bit expencive) or fz(power is low) or zma dont know what to do totally conf

Guys please suggest me what to do

[xionite]

I like 220 but i want refined machine.
I am looking for a machine which i will be retaining for atleast 7 yrs.

looks like u're stuck between a P220 and a CBR250.

i have a P180UGIII... and it's almost 6 years old now.
but it feels like it's virtually brand new.

NEVER had ANY hassles with it.

if well maintained... i don't see why a P220 won't last u 7 years.

[2strokerama]

@ TS: man, in your first post you gave the impression that you'll be holding onto it only for a short time. *need bike, urgent!!*

If youre looking for long term, better take some time and consider carefully..........Id suggest you pick a weekend or take a day's leave, get a friend or two and go for a long test drive on every option you fancy, shortlist whichever you like and come back here with the final list to get 'professional opinions'.

Anything more Id say is that the GS150R is a good candidate for a long termer. I've got nothing but good words about my bike on the refinement front.... 6th gear and engine balancer means that you can cruise on 100+ kmph and only feel minimal vibrations. The parts are damn tough even if it means some extra weight. +1 to suzuki for that. This weight also adds to the bike's stability at high speeds. And for all that weight, its actually pretty fast too. On the mileage front, while others claim as high as 60 kmpl, mine is a dismal 40kmpl. But thats probably because I rip the nuts and bolts off it....I drive it crazy! And I havent encountered anything but minor niggles in all my hard riding on it which speaks well of its toughness. There are other GS owners who ride it harder...one guy has even done a SS1600 on it, no problem. One thing that would be a put off is that theres no guarantee on good resale value. But I bet thats nothing worse than what HH is\will be now that H and H have split.

@mr. garry menace: Ive got my eyes on the RTR 180 too....especially considering Joel's work on the RTRs.

[Garry_Menace]

Pulsar 220 faired or the RTR 180 abs and i guess you can tolerate rtr vibes since you are an ex bullet owner

Now thats what we call reasoning

@ TS: man, in your first post you gave the impression that you'll be holding onto it only for a short time. *need bike, urgent!!*

If youre looking for long term, better take some time and consider carefully..........Id suggest you pick a weekend or take a day's leave, get a friend or two and go for a long test drive on every option you fancy, shortlist whichever you like and come back here with the final list to get 'professional opinions'.

Anything more Id say is that the GS150R is a good candidate for a long termer. I've got nothing but good words about my bike on the refinement front.... 6th gear and engine balancer means that you can cruise on 100+ kmph and only feel minimal vibrations. The parts are damn tough even if it means some extra weight. +1 to suzuki for that. This weight also adds to the bike's stability at high speeds. And for all that weight, its actually pretty fast too. On the mileage front, while others claim as high as 60 kmpl, mine is a dismal 40kmpl. But thats probably because I rip the nuts and bolts off it....I drive it crazy! And I havent encountered anything but minor niggles in all my hard riding on it which speaks well of its toughness. There are other GS owners who ride it harder...one guy has even done a SS1600 on it, no problem. One thing that would be a put off is that theres no guarantee on good resale value. But I bet thats nothing worse than what HH is\will be now that H and H have split.

@mr. garry menace: Ive got my eyes on the RTR 180 too....especially considering Joel's work on the RTRs.

+1 for the blues

Yeah, Joel's work on the RTR's and absence of revlimiter speak up on its own about its robustness

[Wheelomaniac]

I am looking forward to buy new bike(urgently)
Budget up to 1 lakh. 40000 will be down payment rest will be EMI
.
Dialy riding -40km (mainly city, bumpy roads, moderate traffice)
120km on every sunday (smooth link road)

Road condition
Bellow are the requirements.

1. Good millage(35+ will do and 40+ will be great)
2. Very reliable machine. Do not want to see service centre for any other reason but servicing.
3. Personally i love torque more then bhp?(may be because i have never had any other bike but RE's, But this can be changed if i get more fun riding my new machine)
4. Decent acceleration. Wild acc will be preferred it confidence level is high.
5. Head turner.
6. 150cc or +
I am fed up of my RE after sales expenses(at present its under break down, both crank bearings brokedown where on earth did you get to hear this problem except thunderbird) and now i want a reliable bike with minimum after sale expenses, i dont want any unexpected expense once i borrow it?

I know many will suggest R15, but i bought Second hand R15 once and sold it after two days only coz torque was very low

Machines i dont like are ZMR, R15, Dazzler(no offence to owners, these machines are good but not my type).

CBR 250R little out of budget can raise the budget but after august only, and dont know the exact millage.

Please guide me to right machine.

You are indirectly saying Yamaha FZ/Fazer (7k more and you get than twin headlight)

@sunilg
Thanks for approval.

For me reliablity is at first place.
I just want a problem free bike but what i have experienced with RE, every single bike seems problem free.

I like 220 but i want refined machine.
I am looking for a machine which i will be retaining for atleast 7 yrs.

My minde is thinking of cbr(bit expencive) or fz(power is low) or zma dont know what to do totally conf

Guys please suggest me what to do

You can wait for CBR (1.5L - 1.7L on-road, i believe), but since you are in a hurry, your choice has come down to FZ/ZMA.

Pulsar and reliability dont go together AFAIK (no offense to the owners).

I recently booked Yamaha FZS after considering all pros and cons of FZ and ZMA, check out this thread's last post of mine where i've mentioned the factors which made me go for the Yammy.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/what-bike/12220-karizma-r-fz-16-a-4.html

Hope this helps you to decide.

[Satyamzma]

Go for ZMA & live tension free

[Trigger]

Go for ZMA & live tension free

Was wondering why no one suggested that and was about to reply when I saw this.
I guess you said you dint like ZMR and did not mean the ZMA.
The KarizmaR is the best option for you.
Else P220 if you want more power with the reliability a bit less compared to zma. I would have picked the P220, but reliability being your utmost concern, it should be zma.
Don't consider any other bikes (with r15 out of contention). Forget about all 150s and 180s when you have a budget of 1lakh.

[stefanm]

@sunilg
Thanks for approval.

For me reliablity is at first place.
I just want a problem free bike but what i have experienced with RE, every single bike seems problem free.

I like 220 but i want refined machine.
I am looking for a machine which i will be retaining for atleast 7 yrs.

My minde is thinking of cbr(bit expencive) or fz(power is low) or zma dont know what to do totally conf

Guys please suggest me what to do

In the price range the 220 is your best bet, if you find not enough torque in the R15, then the fz has even less, so you can rule that out, the Apache will not satisfy your requirement, the zma has more torque than the r15, performance wise it's a different story the r15 needs to be ridden above 5k rpm. Your best best get the 220 and a couple of mods by Joel and you should be happy for while, with proper maintenance you should be trouble free or increase the budget and get a CBR250, last option second hand R15 and a few mods from Joel, that will keep you sweet for some time and Yamaha make reliable bikes. Sorry I have a hard time recommending Hero Honda, the name itself doesn't sound right to me.