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1. fz is not so good when it comes to mileage. do not expect anything above 35 until you're lucky;-) rtr on the other hand is pretty consistent in terms of mileage, gives around 40-45!

2. fz has a much relaxed position among the two

3, both the bikes are good in handling. fz has better tyres, front forks. rtr has the worst set of tyres in India, brakes are best in its class though.

4. this is where every biker has his own point of view:-)

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Added Advice :-
Try to get 180 ABS if possible ....

This is a very controversial requirement for FZ, i have many friends claiming average of 40-45kmpl for FZ, where as there are many as well claiming 35-40kmpl. FZ riders are prone to Zig Zac through traffic or ripp the bike.
But RTR is constant performer of 45-50kmpl for RTR 160. If average is not a concern then FZ anytime!!
Any time FZ!!
For Handling both are nice, but i feel FZ more better on handling in city.
Mostly people are buying FZ for it's looks, so now you can take a aim.

FZ is good on all aspect apart from top speed which RTR has. Mileage is purely what people ride through.I myslef have got 40-45kmpl for my office commute. Comfort in FZ is unbeatable.
RTR is Speed and good for speed lover.

When you talk your love for RTR also then i will suggest please save few more bucks and go for RTR ABS 180 only. ABS is a real feature which i admore alot now, after seeing few falls on highways and my friends too.

Mileage - Apache..FZ mileage can go as low as 30 KMPL if trashed.... I get around 35...

Riding comfort - FZ...

Easy handling - FZ... any day...city or highway... thanks to its superb chassis and tyres....

Looks - highly subjective...i preferred FZ.. one of the major reason i bought FZ is for its looks

How one Can classified Fz or xyz handing better then Apache or xyz ?

I fell just becuase of the tyres difference, FZ has more grip on roads due to wide tyres, and it;s flickable too, where as RTR is also flickable but INMO it lacks the grip somewhere.
And power and speed of RTR is more which makes it to concentrate more to handle, where as FZ is not that torque or Speedy, so we can handle it easily!!
This all would matter to city riders only, where as open roads will always welcome RTR.
But not to forget RTR is used in Racing!! Where as FZ not!

1.) A decent mileage - RTR160
2.) Riding comfort - FZ
3.) Easy handling - both are good but still i would choose FZ
4.) n....finally...."Looks" - FZ is choice of many & new RTR is of few..if it would have been an old model then..

PS - I also owned RTR160 which is a great bike but old model appealed to me better..new model didn't appeal me at all..go for FZ..

As i said its because of its tyres and chassis....

FZ tyres are very good for Urban commute in any weather conditions.

yeah may be Tryes is disadvantage but what about acceleration & torque the most important aspect as per city road through traffic ? Just zigzaging in traffic isnt enough you have to Zip "PASS" them quickly too...

What about Brakes (with Our Without ABS) ?? power to weigh Ratio ??? o.O

bro Just saying frankly, don't think attacking or pointing at you, if agreed say it else no issue...

but I Think we should not be biased IMO, and its not like promoting our bike & all if we are mentioning pro's then take complete chapter out of contest leads in wrong way...

Hey Shahbaz- Why are you getting tensed

TS don't want a bike to zoom or Vroom.... If he had this criteria then surely anytime RTR would have been choosen here.
He needs: Mileage, Looks, comfort and Easy handling.
But personally i don't see much apple grapes difference in Torque or Speed when compared to FZ or RTR 160.
RTR 160 will anytime lead the race but not that easily, Because FZ is not much behind.
RTR 160:
Maximum Power 11.19 kW (15.2 bhp) @8500 rpm
Maximum Torque 13.1 Nm @ 4000 rpm

FZ:
Maximum output 14PS @ 7500 rpm
Maximum torque 13.6 N.m @ 6000 rpm

How much difference do you see here ?? will a difference of approx 1ps make a difference here ?

It won't make a big difference unless RTR 180 don't enter here:
Maximum Power 12.52 kW (17.03 bhp) @8500 rpm
Maximum Torque 15.5 Nm @ 6500 rpm
this will surely make a difference.

RTR is no doubt a fast bike but how fast is it compare to FZ?? so there is a confusion on choosing it.
And FZ don't have bad brakes either, it's perfect!! But if you compare to Dual Disc then it's will deffer, but what about single disc RTR VS FZ braking, i feel FZ more responsive.
When speed is concern then anytime RTR will lead but when comfort will be concerned then FZ only!!

not about being tensed, its about being True & helping T.C, nobody will get a certificate when a TC buys Bike which we own.... "Same for all of us"

Well how its nothing when Apache holds a edge may be slightly but its too much when you claim FZ as a good handler ?? Is there a Big difference in handling ?

And About Braking well Dual Disc or Single Disc one cannot debate on RTR brakes :-)

If I have to say then I will not Compare but Just will write about Bike I own or Know about, how can one say p220 or p200 NS can outperform CBR on a maintenance & long run bases when he never owned a One ? Just out of Curiosity...

APache vs FZ

This thread will soon become the thread mentioned below!



Happy Arguing (Right now its 3 posts vs 4 posts...On just two pages!)

Absolutely True!!
Actually Handling will deffer to all individuals!! And a mass answer will reflect the real truth!!
Individual affair again!!
Very true... if one haven't ridden it for good amount of kms, he should not comment!!!

But some exp will do matter here, It's really not necessary to buy a bike to see the maintenance, mostly many have ridden it from friends or from family, or went through the ownership thread.

...lol...
But don't worry there is a difference in discussion and argument!!
But this won't become a battle ground for sure!!

BTW where is TiJoe ???