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  • #46
    Originally posted by ananth View Post
    Okay, Corrected..
    Many thanks bro! Coming to your requirement, I have voted for Bullet. It has its own share of problems but Bullet will always be Bullet.
    Whatever you buy bro, I believe you will enjoy a lot of it. Looking forward for a new member in your family
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    • #47
      Originally posted by ananth View Post
      Wow! Thanks a ton for the reply friends..

      I have already tested R15 twice - I am not comfortable with the riding posture - So R15 is Out.

      P220 / P200 - I dont like Pulsars - Sorry for that - So, Its out of the list

      And as suggested, Avenger 200 is also out of the list..

      Now the question is ZMA / TBTS..?

      I already owned a ZMA - so am Ok with it.. I would test drive a TBTS again this Wednesday and decide..

      The only thing that keeps me slightly attached to TBTS is that, i find it as a long term investment.. As mentioned TBTS is heavy - i agree.. ZMA is 150kgs and TBTS is 180 - I beleive 30 kgs shouldn't be a problem on a open highway.. To me, it gives more stability at higher speeds..

      I'm not worried of a resale value or something - but the bike should do good atleast for the next 6-7 years.. In that sense, am more inclined to the TBTS.

      If am wrong, please keep me updated..

      Thanks for all your suggestions and comments..
      Are you sure your not comfortable with R15's seating position? I felt the same but after a bit of riding I realized it wasn't bad at all. The R15 gives the best high speed touring ability, I can assure you of that. Way better than a Zma or Bullet. 100kmph at 6k rpm is peace. If you plan for some serious touring and your ready to spend some good time servicing and maintaining the bike, then it would be a Bullet, otherwise there's always a Zma.(Of course a Zma probably wouldn't exist 5-6 years from now unlike the other choices)
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      • #48
        Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View Post
        The R15 gives the best high speed touring ability, I can assure you of that. Way better than a Zma or Bullet. 100kmph at 6k rpm is peace.
        R15 does 89kmph in 6th gear at 6k rpm and Zma does 100kmph in 5th gear at 6250rpm...

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        • #49
          Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
          Many thanks bro! Coming to your requirement, I have voted for Bullet. It has its own share of problems but Bullet will always be Bullet.
          Whatever you buy bro, I believe you will enjoy a lot of it. Looking forward for a new member in your family
          Yeah, thnx bro - lets see how things cope up..

          Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View Post
          Are you sure your not comfortable with R15's seating position? I felt the same but after a bit of riding I realized it wasn't bad at all. The R15 gives the best high speed touring ability, I can assure you of that. Way better than a Zma or Bullet. 100kmph at 6k rpm is peace. If you plan for some serious touring and your ready to spend some good time servicing and maintaining the bike, then it would be a Bullet, otherwise there's always a Zma.(Of course a Zma probably wouldn't exist 5-6 years from now unlike the other choices)
          Yes, i rode the R15 for a good 10-15 kilometers.. changing gears often, sporty riding posture and the back and wrist pains make me decide against it.. am not saying its a bad bike, in fact it is a wonderful bike - but i don't feel that it is the best Bike for me...
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          • #50
            if u can live with the few hassles of owning a bullet then that is a very good option for you..otherwise next best option is defintly zma....i never faced fishtailing problem with the zma but yes i did feel it a bit headshaking in heavy winds but that is not a big problem
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            • #51
              Originally posted by surbhit View Post
              R15 does 89kmph in 6th gear at 6k rpm and Zma does 100kmph in 5th gear at 6250rpm...
              Are you sure about these figures? I thought the R15 does close to 95 at 6k if i'm not wrong? Nevertheless the Zma peaks at 8k compared to the R15 that peaks at 10k. I still find the R15 less stressed than the Zma at high speeds.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View Post
                Are you sure about these figures? I thought the R15 does close to 95 at 6k if i'm not wrong? Nevertheless the Zma peaks at 8k compared to the R15 that peaks at 10k. I still find the R15 less stressed than the Zma at high speeds.
                Zma is better performer at 80+ speeds as compared to R15 , 6th gear is useless as you will always have to downshift to either 5th or 4th gear to overtake anything whereas in Zma you don't need to downshift for the same...

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                  Jonak, Could you be a bit elaborative on this...!! as to at what all situations did u experience the ZiMA fishtailing..!!!
                  I do not know if fishtailing is the right word to use here. But what happens is, while cruising at high speed (more than 80kmph, depends on the wind speed to a great extent), in strong wind the bike shakes. The shaking increases if the wind's direction is perpendicular to the bike's direction.


                  @ Ananth,

                  Hey, see this. This can be helpful.
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                  • #54
                    Thanks Jonak, It was indeed helpful..

                    Also, went to a nearby HH Show Room.. Shocked to know that the waiting period for ZMA is a minimum 40 days!!
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                    • #55
                      fishtailing

                      as ananth i too had the doubt regarding the best tourer available in the market and had zeroed in on zma also....new thing that came up in this topic is FISHTAILING of zma at 80+ speed when u have cross winds.........when u have cross winds ,all bikes tend to shake (correct me if i am wrong)....how vigourous is this in zma ,plz help me out people
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Jonak View Post
                        I do not know if fishtailing is the right word to use here. But what happens is, while cruising at high speed (more than 80kmph, depends on the wind speed to a great extent), in strong wind the bike shakes. The shaking increases if the wind's direction is perpendicular to the bike's direction.
                        Originally posted by roshan3440 View Post
                        as ananth i too had the doubt regarding the best tourer available in the market and had zeroed in on zma also....new thing that came up in this topic is FISHTAILING of zma at 80+ speed when u have cross winds.........when u have cross winds ,all bikes tend to shake (correct me if i am wrong)....how vigourous is this in zma ,plz help me out people
                        That happens to every bike...!!

                        Whether that wud be Karizma/P220/P200/RTR/or whatever....bcoz then the wind hits the bike from the side....in a case like that the person will have to slow down so that the bike becomes from stable..!!

                        Fishtailing means if the rear of the bike vibrates/moves left and right bcoz of the winds....normally this scenario would not be encountered bcoz of the good aerodynamics of the ZiMA..!! Hope i was clear in explaining the concept.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by inder.cool View Post

                          Fishtailing means if the rear of the bike vibrates/moves left and right bcoz of the winds....normally this scenario would not be encountered bcoz of the good aerodynamics of the ZiMA..!! Hope i was clear in explaining the concept.
                          No no!!! This never happens with my bike.
                          Sorry for creating some confusions. Also see post 2 of this topic. That's where it all started.
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                          • #58
                            This looks like the fastest moving thread at the moment. In a day it has traversed 6 pages! Afterall we are looking for a Tourer!!!
                            The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Jonak View Post
                              I do not know if fishtailing is the right word to use here. But what happens is, while cruising at high speed (more than 80kmph, depends on the wind speed to a great extent), in strong wind the bike shakes. The shaking increases if the wind's direction is perpendicular to the bike's direction.
                              Fishtailing is the wrong word, the rear doesnt shake, its the front that shakes. Headshake would be more appropriate!

                              Originally posted by roshan3440 View Post
                              as ananth i too had the doubt regarding the best tourer available in the market and had zeroed in on zma also....new thing that came up in this topic is FISHTAILING of zma at 80+ speed when u have cross winds.........when u have cross winds ,all bikes tend to shake (correct me if i am wrong)....how vigourous is this in zma ,plz help me out people
                              Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                              That happens to every bike...!!

                              Whether that wud be Karizma/P220/P200/RTR/or whatever....bcoz then the wind hits the bike from the side....in a case like that the person will have to slow down so that the bike becomes from stable..!!
                              Happens in every bike is true, but the degree to which it happens matters. Cannot comment about an RTR or the 200, but between the ZMA and 220 in heavy crosswinds the ZMA shakes way more than the 220. Infact the 220 is almost rock solid planted in a straight line!

                              Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                              This looks like the fastest moving thread at the moment. In a day it has traversed 6 pages! Afterall we are looking for a Tourer!!!
                              And we are yet to zero on one!
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by roshan3440 View Post
                                as ananth i too had the doubt regarding the best tourer available in the market and had zeroed in on zma also....new thing that came up in this topic is FISHTAILING of zma at 80+ speed when u have cross winds.........when u have cross winds ,all bikes tend to shake (correct me if i am wrong)....how vigourous is this in zma ,plz help me out people
                                In strong crosswinds it becomes difficult even on an R1 especially with all that fancy fairing! But I doubt if it (the Zma) would "fishtail" with crosswinds. Even bicycles dont!
                                The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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