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**Cleaner** · 08-24-2013, 12:42 AM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

No, they can't be compared. Pulsars give around 50KMPL which scooters can't match even though they are underpowered.

**SatSon** · 08-24-2013, 08:32 AM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by Cleaner View Post

No, they can't be compared. Pulsars give around 50KMPL which scooters can't match even though they are underpowered.

+1.
These automatic scooters give mileage that does justice only for a 200cc engine.
But they are really fun to ride in city due to lack of clutch/gears...

**Ezilkannan** · 08-24-2013, 12:13 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by anarchy911 View Post

what about scooters? activa and all?

let me tell you something, activa and scooters in general will not give you the mileage that you will expect, and it can even deteriorate to 35 or lower at times. It will be fun to ride them around city for short distances, or like going to get some grocery, but they are way underpowered and you will really feel that when you ride them on the highway. This is from my own personal experience. I have to rev the daylights out of it just to keep it in 60~70 kph range.

**anarchy911** · 08-25-2013, 12:20 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

what about pulsar 220f, apache 180 and karizma? would they be good for a beginner?

**abhi7013** · 08-25-2013, 02:18 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by anarchy911 View Post

what about pulsar 220f, apache 180 and karizma? would they be good for a beginner?

Like you when I was in my early engineering days, I got my zmr. I did not even know the gear pattern! It was a bulky bike but I managed to ride it perfectly within a week. So no matter which bike, don't think of the beginner part. Many students directly buy a cbr 250! The starting week you'll have to practice riding it. Since you ride in both traffic and highway, I suggest zmr. Cause I too have the same traffic pattern. First 30% city and the test highway and zmr can easily be managed everywhere. Gives a mileage of 45-50 for me.
If not zmr then go for karizma. Best bike for all conditions. Whichever bike you buy, test ride it.

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**anarchy911** · 08-25-2013, 02:31 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

zmr is way over-budget. i can at max, go for 220f, avenger or a180 abs. maybe 200ns with some begging and crying.

**abhi7013** · 08-27-2013, 12:35 AM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by anarchy911 View Post

zmr is way over-budget. i can at max, go for 220f, avenger or a180 abs. maybe 200ns with some begging and crying.

180abs anyday over p220 or avenger. Mainly cause of ABS and looks. And obviously, higher mileage. Easy to handle in traffic and a sexy exhaust note!!

Ps- test drive every bike and select. We can just give our personal viewpoints.
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**anarchy911** · 08-27-2013, 08:57 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

one doubt i had in my mind. as being a first time rider, wouldnt abs ruin my braking capabilities? should i go for abs or not? i agree that it will save my ass, but i cant be sure that my future bikes will have this system too.

**Ezilkannan** · 08-28-2013, 06:53 AM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by anarchy911 View Post

one doubt i had in my mind. as being a first time rider, wouldnt abs ruin my braking capabilities? should i go for abs or not? i agree that it will save my ass, but i cant be sure that my future bikes will have this system too.

ABS is any day safer than non-abs. But if you want to really learn about braking properly at high speeds, you can do that only in a non abs machine or unless the bike's abs can be switched off(which I don't think is possible in the RTR). But ABS is always safer though, because you may end up locking your wheels(and possibly crash) if you don't do it properly in a non abs bike.

**padhu** · 08-28-2013, 01:16 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post

ABS is any day safer than non-abs. But if you want to really learn about braking properly at high speeds, you can do that only in a non abs machine or unless the bike's abs can be switched off(which I don't think is possible in the RTR). But ABS is always safer though, because you may end up locking your wheels(and possibly crash) if you don't do it properly in a non abs bike.

ABS is system in Apache can be turned off.

**xpranav** · 08-28-2013, 01:47 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by anarchy911 View Post

My daily ride would include both city and highway driving.

Hey Welcome to xBhp

I am not going to put up any suggestion on what ride to own as you now have enough expert opinions here on the thread.

Infact what I would like to ask you is to save at least 10k from your stated budget to save for a few mandatory riding gears. These gears are not only for safety but they introduce a discipline within you as a biker everytime when you wear them. There is nothing wrong to compromise on power by a few bhp(s) but it is absolutely idiotic to compromise on the safety.

As you have reached the biggest biking platform of India (read xBhp) you should spend some of your time in reading across various threads to teach yourself and grow up with every day. I once again applause you for reaching out to the experts here. Keep on riding safely

**Ezilkannan** · 08-28-2013, 03:35 PM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by padhu View Post

ABS is system in Apache can be turned off.

well, then he can go ahead with it. If he wants to learn or purposefully lock the rear wheels, he can just turn it off and do whatever he wants

**anarchy911** · 08-30-2013, 12:17 AM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

after long talks with my mother over the budget issue, there are 4 bikes out of which i have to choose- pulsar 180, apache160/180, avenger. i know i should TD each of them and shortlist. but the problem is that showrooms are quite far away, and i have classes so i am not sure i ll be able to try each one of them. so i need your help here guys. does anyone of you with a similar built as mine, or anyone of you know any such person, ride either of the pulsar 180 or apache160/180? if yes, then are they comfortable? i have to finalize by the end of the week.

please reply fast. i m waiting...

**xpranav** · 08-30-2013, 04:13 AM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by anarchy911 View Post

pulsar 180, apache160/180, avenger.

I had heard many times about the vibration issue in RTRs, I suggest you should better rule them out from the list.

**abhi7013** · 08-30-2013, 08:49 AM

Re: Bajaj or honda or hero or tvs or suzuki?

Originally posted by xpranav View Post

I had heard many times about the vibration issue in RTRs, I suggest you should better rule them out from the list.

That's not a reason to rule out any bike!! You're nt doing it justice.

TS- I would say apache. Its got better looks in the lot you mentioned and go for the abs version. It suits young people Like us.

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