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  • #16
    re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

    [MENTION=51893]ever[/MENTION]yone: Not everyone is Abhimanyu (of Mahabharata) who comes with all the knowledge from birth. Remember the time when you were 18 and immature. Instead of ranting (and possibly feeling jealous), we should be helping that chap so he doesn't end up like a certain person named Mohd. Ayazuddin who was almost the same age as Yash.


    [MENTION=66247]yashdixit97[/MENTION] : First and foremost, welcome to xBHP. Secondly, you don't drive a 2-wheeler, you ride it.

    Anyways, At this tender age of 17, I don't think getting yourself a high capacity bike is the smartest thing to do. What you could do however is start with a bike which most people in the foreign countries start with, the Ninja 300. A Green Ninja 300 will fulfill all your requirements (0-100 in 6 seconds, road presence, looks, great headlamps etc.)

    The added benefits are as follows:
    1. It is a much more forgiving bike to ride as compared to a Monster 796 or a Duke 390 for a first-timer so it will not try to actively kill you and might end up giving you the priceless gift of long life.
    2. It does cost ~4 lac so it won't be as much of a prestige issue as with the Duke 390 (with the budget being 8 lac and all).
    3. You will get your hands on an excellent product which is a much more matured product than anything else below that price range.
    4. If you don't like it, you can always sell and move on. But the experience you gain on that motorcycle will help you control many-a-bigger motorcycle better in the future.

    P.S.: You are luckier than me since nobody told me this when I was 17 so do go through this website once before you turn 18: http://www.ridesafewith.me/
    P.P.S.: I have removed the helmetless burnout pic since we actively discourage helmetless riding.
    Last edited by antz.bin; 11-23-2013, 08:03 PM.
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    • #17
      Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

      I am impressed that you have limited your budget to 8L instead of 18 ,looking at 375s and 650s instead of 1000s and 1300s itself is a good step.

      But understand one thing, an 8L bike especially a sport bike is not a style object. It is engineered to go fast in the right hands in the right place. From your photos it's very clear that you need to travel a long way to reach that point.

      Your opinion about ninja 650 is not exactly right but true it don't have abs or USD forks a 1.8 L bike have. But it's much more than that.

      I don't want to discourage you but a big bike can be intimidating and will result in crashes. Crash on a larger bike will result in more money and health loss. I suggest you following this:

      Tell your parents that riding a big sports bike with zero experience is not advisable, but I don't wanna loose this opportunity either, so buy me an R15 ( a great bike to learn on) or any bike up to 250 cc. And put rest of the money as an FD or something in your name.

      Once you are ready for the bigger ride you will have enough money in bank, to buy it, remember maintaining it without parents help means lot of money again.

      Meanwhil pickup skills with a bike.

      Chances are that you will love your Octavia more and later will buy an Audi or something. Because you may not be a bike enthusiast, you need to find it out.

      MOST IMPORTATLY STUDY WELL NOW SO THAT THIS OFFER BECOMES VALID!

      Good luck

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      • #18
        Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

        Originally posted by Soul_Hunter View Post
        I don't know if this is OT but IMO xbhp first of all should not allow people like these to register. There should be strict forum policies about registering and posting things in the forum.

        And to the TS- Whatever advise the other members gave you 'Get It in Your Head'.

        Cheers

        I don't think that is right, unless he come Here he will just never understand what that photos convey to actual riders who know what they are doing.

        When he is not allowed here he may go to a moron who advices him to bargain with parents and get zx 10 or s1000 rr.

        We need to give everybody perchance to survive and learn and excel later.

        May be this guy will become your or my riding buddy after 5 years. we donno.

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        • #19
          Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

          Actually its foolish on his part thinking of buying such bikes when he openly says that he has limited riding experience on the cbr. And what does he mean to convey by telling he claimed insurance 4-5 times in a year? That he does not know riding?
          TS- I feel really good that you joined this community. Absorb in what it has to offer. And you said you liked the cbr 250 rite. Go for it. Nothing higher than 250cc is what I feel. You still need to get lots of experience on bikes and obviously improve your riding skills. As mentioned by someone here, put the remaining cash in bank and it'll help a lot in future. That's an excellent advice.

          PS- alienware gaming? Htc one? This is a biking community and such attitude will not get you anywhere. You may think it looks or sounds cool but trust me, like the members in this community, people around you too will look down on you with pity. And remember. If something negative happens cause of you on road or anywhere cause of your immature actions, the people will not blame you. They'll blame your parents. Keeping that in mind, take a step in deciding what your needs are.

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          • #20
            Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

            Another Azahar son on making? seems so,felling pity for your parents.

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            • #21
              Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

              Forget about the bike. Did you driven any car? Car & bike are different poles apart.
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              • #22
                Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                @everyone: Not everyone is Abhimanyu (of Mahabharata) who comes with all the knowledge from birth. Remember the time when you were 18 and immature. Instead of ranting (and possibly feeling jealous), we should be helping that chap so he doesn't end up like a certain person named Mohd. Ayazuddin who was almost the same age as Yash.


                @yashdixit97 : First and foremost, welcome to xBHP. Secondly, you don't drive a 2-wheeler, you ride it.

                Anyways, At this tender age of 17, I don't think getting yourself a high capacity bike is the smartest thing to do. What you could do however is start with a bike which most people in the foreign countries start with, the Ninja 300. A Green Ninja 300 will fulfill all your requirements (0-100 in 6 seconds, road presence, looks, great headlamps etc.)

                The added benefits are as follows:
                1. It is a much more forgiving bike to ride as compared to a Monster 796 or a Duke 390 for a first-timer so it will not try to actively kill you and might end up giving you the priceless gift of long life.
                2. It does cost ~4 lac so it won't be as much of a prestige issue as with the Duke 390 (with the budget being 8 lac and all).
                3. You will get your hands on an excellent product which is a much more matured product than anything else below that price range.
                4. If you don't like it, you can always sell and move on. But the experience you gain on that motorcycle will help you control many-a-bigger motorcycle better in the future.

                P.S.: You are luckier than me since nobody told me this when I was 17 so do go through this website once before you turn 18: The Art of Safe Riding
                P.P.S.: I have removed the helmetless burnout pic since we actively discourage helmetless riding.
                @yashdixit97
                This pretty much sums up what you need to do.

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                • #23
                  Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                  Originally posted by yashdixit97 View Post
                  hello guys a hearty hi to you all

                  my name is yash dixit from indore m.p. currently in 12th and i drive a black piaggio vespa and used to drive a silver first generation activa and the first generation kinetic honda
                  at this instance i don't have a bike or 18+ drivers licence Nice


                  i am not ace at studies either but my parents have placed a challenge in front of me that if i get good score in boards and a good college then i get a car , a bike , a laptop and a phone . the car is finalized the new octavia which will cost my parents about 23lakhs the mobile an htc one the laptop a dell alienware Watch out! Poser in the house.

                  the only thing which i am unable to finalize is the bike
                  my budget is up to 8 lakhs and i am stuck at
                  ducati monster 796
                  hyosung gv650
                  harley davidson iron 883 and the super low
                  ktm duke 390
                  kawasaki ninja 650

                  now the priority list
                  1) must have abs or ill have loads of crashes in future as on my vespa
                  i bought it a year ago and have taken 4 insurance claims till now
                  2) kick ass road presence like it must draw attention at any cost POSER!!!
                  3)fast like 0-100 in 6 seconds and a maintainable top speed up to 180
                  4)ground clearance for some who might not know indore's roads are not exactly what you would call smooth they are not even what you call roads
                  5)it should be comfortable on long rides as i am planning to do a lot of those

                  now the twist with the bikes
                  i only have ridden one bike extensively for 2 months in my life
                  a cbr 250r abs
                  quite liked it
                  it is owned by a relative of mine and when he went out of town he gave the keys to my parents and i got to ride the bike
                  now what i like and what i dont like about it(in comparisen to the vespa the first generation activa and the first generation kinetic honda)
                  pros
                  fast
                  looked cool (sort of )
                  good GC
                  cheap parts
                  nice headlamps

                  cons
                  after hardcore riding the gearbox would get stuck in any gear and wont select any other gearDoesnt know how to treat the bike. Possible ruined gearbox. In 2 months.
                  and if the engine stalled after hard core riding the engine wont start back up again created quite a scene when riding back home after a ride and turning the engine off at a light
                  after riding it my wrists would hurt a bit
                  specially the left one


                  now the twist with the bikes i am set to buy
                  i have test ridden all the bikes except for the harleys because the sales person didnt allow , even when i got the owner my uncle to call him as i didnt have a valid drivers licence
                  and the ducati as there is no showroom in indore


                  1 ktm duke 390
                  =pros
                  -value for money
                  -performance
                  -menacing looks
                  -awesome brakes
                  -tires
                  -you get 44 bhp for that money is simply awesome

                  =cons
                  -i have budget of 8 lakhs buying a 1.8 lakh bike wont give me the satisfaction
                  -headlight sucks
                  -engine is to small for my satisfaction

                  still i love this bike and would have definately bought it if the budget was bit lower

                  2 kawasaki ninja (my family hates korean chnese and japanese products my family doesnt have any cars like honda suzuki toyota etc because we think the make a fool out of you by just providing the stuff that competion has not the stuff which they can provide Japs and koreans provide more for their money than the Europeans. Fluidic Verna/ Honda City vs. VW Vento. The only reason to get the latter is for build quality. But then, lets leave cars here.
                  ex toyota fortuner
                  my neighbor has one
                  drum rakes at the rear
                  the hell total loot)
                  so this bike will only be chosen if it has something extra to offer
                  =pros
                  -comfy
                  -long distance rides made easy
                  -looks good

                  =cons
                  -spongy brakes
                  - weak headlight
                  -engine not on performer side but more of comfy and cruising side

                  3 hyosung gv 650
                  =pros
                  - drop dead looks
                  -engine is punchy loads of torque
                  - gc

                  =cons
                  -name hyosung no one knows it here
                  -engine heat loads of it while test ride
                  -quality of parts
                  -no abs even as optional

                  4 ducati 796 monster
                  =pros
                  -its name
                  - italian
                  -its a ducati
                  -looks
                  -engine
                  -fast

                  =cons
                  -no showroom in indore
                  -service is rubbish as ive heard and bloody expensive
                  -not reliable
                  -availability of spares

                  5 harleys new showroom just opened up in indore by the name of tiger harey
                  didnt let me test ride any bike
                  =pros
                  -looks
                  -its a harley
                  -road presence
                  -build quality

                  =cons
                  -GC JUST BLOODY 10 CM OF IT HAVE THEY GONE MAD
                  -883cc engine but the bloody gv650s 650 cc engine produces more power and torque as on there websiteSpecs Comparison - Harley Davidson SuperLow Standard vs Harley Davidson Iron 883 Standard vs Hyosung Aquila Pro650 Standard
                  -availability of spares


                  guys please help me
                  having sleepless nights thinking about this
                  thanks
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                  • #24
                    Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                    cant really blame him. just today i was telling @TeeJayy and @saquib about how the performance bikes are in the eyes of so called rich brats. "with great power comes great responsibility" and i say "if power comes at cheap price then it will end up at cheap people too".

                    the parents have to be educated about road safety for this, and also about their son's safety. even if we try to change his perceptions about biking and safe riding i dont think it will affect him since the root cause for his ignorance is at his house. this will hit his mind if somethings major happens, which i really hope it does not happen. Mr.azar realized it when his son died. untill then he was ignorant. i was jaw dropped reading the thread headline. forget about reading the 1st post where i fainted.

                    as the Mod said, we have to educate him on this. if that guy is going through this thread right now, i hope he knows atleast what we are telling. sad state of rich people.

                    i myself started riding activa at age of 17, without license. once met with minor accident during 2nd PU. got a LL and then DL. then after i started working at age of 21 i came across xbhp while checking out bikes. saw many people stressing on riding gears. had no clue as to what it was. researched more. got a FZs, got a dsg jacket with gloves. then last year i sold it and got r15v2, i was 22, then got the knee guards. i really thank xbhp for that and also its members. i am not boasting about myself, but i am saying that this safety things has to come from within and with a little from family and friends. this guys has nothing to lose, thats why this attitude. once if he realises what life is, he might turn to safety and other stuff.

                    @yashdixit97 please change your attitude man. its no sin to ride superbike at this age. but just hold these things for future when you mature as a rider. life is very long ahead and you will get ample chances to own these machines.

                    PS: i think this guy is just showing off. everything he wrote is so so so unreal. i say "&itch please" to this
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                    • #25
                      Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                      ^
                      True that.

                      And anyways, since when did the Octavia start costing 23 lakhs?

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                      • #26
                        Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                        Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post
                        ^
                        True that.

                        And anyways, since when did the Octavia start costing 23 lakhs?
                        Actually I missed that I doubt if a Laura cost that much may be he forgot to list the Performance mods his parents planned for him

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                        • #27
                          Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                          First of all, welcome to xBhp. Now let me tell you something, it's all lies, your parents won't get you c**p, mine says that too. They told me if I come in first position in HSLC, they will buy me a bike, mind you, I was not promised a superbike, just a commuter bike costing under 50k at that time, I came in first position but got no bike, again in HSSLC exam, they promised to get me a bike I choose if I come in first position, but this time too, they did not buy me s**t even after coming in first position, first forward to TDC, I was promised a bike if I could become the university topper, I tried hard as I was drooling after a bike and came out as the topper but I'm still riding a bicycle. So, before going any further, I'd like to warn you about what's actually gonna happen.

                          About selecting a bike, you can choose pretty much anything available here as budget seems to be no constraint here, I'd advise you to go with Ninja 650r as Kawasaki parts are easier to source when compare to other super bikes here. Do not go with Iron 883 as HD is about to release new 500cc and 750cc bikes here. You can look at Ducati Monster and maybe wait for the New Triumph to be released.

                          BTW as they say, if you got a $5 head, get a $5 helmet, it seems like $5 head is the keyword here though.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                            Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
                            the parents have to be educated about road safety for this, and also about their son's safety. even if we try to change his perceptions about biking and safe riding i dont think it will affect him since the root cause for his ignorance is at his house. this will hit his mind if somethings major happens, which i really hope it does not happen. Mr.azar realized it when his son died. untill then he was ignorant. i was jaw dropped reading the thread headline. forget about reading the 1st post where i fainted.

                            as the Mod said, we have to educate him on this. if that guy is going through this thread right now, i hope he knows atleast what we are telling. sad state of rich people.
                            How would you know that Mr. Azhar was ignorant? Lets not comment about parenting especially for a person who lost his kid in a road accident. I recently read a very good comment from Mr. Vishwanathan Anand after he lost the title. He said 'Things look different with hindsight'.

                            A 100cc bike is as efficient in killing people as a 1000 cc. But alas a new kid who dies on a recently gifted 100 cc does not make news.

                            On parenting, every parent wants his kid safe. I wont gift my kid a splendor when he grows up(which my father gifted me). Will just keep my fingers crossed when he starts riding a bicycle and pray that God gives him another chance and time to learn from his mistakes.

                            With age I realized nothing teaches you more than your own experience. Even I wanted to give this child some knowledge I may have gained, but after reading his post - that he has four insurance claims on a vespa in an year' I realized that no soft words, rants etc would help him. He would be what he is. Also, I dont have any knowledge on these high end bikes he is talking about.

                            The irony is - If you have got an option of buying an R15, RTR 180, KTM 200, KTM 390, Fz-16, Pulsar 200 NS!! and mileage and maintenance is not an issue. When you ask ppl to choose one amongst them, 90% would choose KTM 200 or KTM 390. Its all about speed and power. Whether you need it or not.
                            Last edited by muztariq; 11-25-2013, 12:10 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                              The "dhoom machale" guy has not turned up after that gaudy and flamboyant display of " Which bike" requirement. I guess he never wanted a suggestion actually rather wanted to tell to world how much wealth his parents have got and what SUVs they drive. He seriously is itellectually challenged I guess and I am absolutely not being apologetic writing this as really I am not sure how guys like him can contribute to/on this beautiful forum. And saying he is inexperienced and just 18 so can be considered is petty and trivial excuse and reason as we indeed have 18 yrs old folks here and contributing to this biker's fraternity for good.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Bike for 18yr old within 8 lac INR

                                His entire query looks looks to me, more like something he wanted to boast about. The very heading of the thread shows that. His description of 'alien ware laptop' and 'Skoda octavia which is supposed to cost 25 lakhs' makes me question the genuinety of the post. He probably thinks it's like Facebook where people pour in likes for stuff like these.

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