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  • #16
    Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

    Originally posted by mhussain View Post
    It's almost the same. GS returns me between 40-45 Kmpl. Trigger is a tad better 50-55 Kmpl. But i wouldn't deem this as the deciding factor. GS is several notches a better VFM against Trigger. The only downside is it's size, weight and turning radius but only in crowded parking spaces and very narrow streets. Otherwise a bomb proof bike.

    On road prices;
    GS - 78,687/-
    Trigger - 89,851/-
    The above on-road price for Trigger may confuse the OP. This is for CBS version right?
    The double disk version of Trigger without CBS will not cost you more than 82k I think.
    Also, the on-road price of GS in chennai is around 81k when i checked last month.

    Also, not sure why you get low mileage for your GS; almost all in GS ownership thread claims minimum 50 kmpl fuel economy.

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    • #17
      Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

      Originally posted by SatSon View Post
      The above on-road price for Trigger may confuse the OP. This is for CBS version right?
      The double disk version of Trigger without CBS will not cost you more than 82k I think.
      Also, the on-road price of GS in Chennai is around 81k when i checked last month.
      In Blore, the on road price without accessories for GS is 83.5k and for Trigger its 82.5k for STD version/86k for DLX version.
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      • #18
        Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

        Hi, my thoughts on your confusion.

        when i bought my GS during 2010, currently done 70K kms so far(engine work done recently). Regarding overall feel of the bike i would rate GS over trigger any day. I was thinking about replacing my GS before giving it for engine work, and test rode the Trigger and it really didn't have that big bike feel (no offence i am 6ft and it felt tad bit dwarf like). Dazzler (Trigger), even i haven't seen that many Triggers in delhi so far, but i haven't seen even GS for that matter.

        Coming to question about weight, mileage and overall engine refinement i think trigger might outscore GS on weight and refinement.

        Mileage wise i drive daily 90 kms mostly City traffic and i am getting 50-55 kmpl easily on the GS with constant ripping. Tires is not a big issue, you can get them changed (i got Michelin Sirac on mine), the 6th gear is a big boon, and even if you ride at 25KMPH in 6th there is no knocking of engine.

        Weight of the bike even for me was a issue considering i only weigh 60kg, and the bike was 150Kgs, but after few thousand kms got used to it completely and now flicking through traffic is not a big problem.

        Instrumentation is pretty good, with gear indicator and all the other things (better than trigger), rear breaks of GS are the worst and as someone said earlier 80:20 is the way to go with braking.

        Service center is definitely a problem atleast in delhi, but don;t know about bangalore. I think most of the spares you should be able to get, but for some it is a painful process of waiting.

        Also since you told that you only found the 6th gear and Console as a positive, might be that you are already inclined towards the trigger, if that is the case go ahead buy Honda it will not disappoint you.

        P.s: I have tried to be as much unbiased as i can as i own a GS myself (really love inspite of facing issues, still brings smile to my face when i ride it). Hope it clears some of your doubts.

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        • #19
          Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

          As per my personal experience out of these two gs150 is any day better but i think you should consider hunk also which is a very good and feature rich bike for its price but its under rated too, dont know why...
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          • #20
            Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

            Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
            Hi, my thoughts on your confusion.

            when i bought my GS during 2010, currently done 70K kms so far(engine work done recently). Regarding overall feel of the bike i would rate GS over trigger any day. I was thinking about replacing my GS before giving it for engine work, and test rode the Trigger and it really didn't have that big bike feel (no offence i am 6ft and it felt tad bit dwarf like). Dazzler (Trigger), even i haven't seen that many Triggers in delhi so far, but i haven't seen even GS for that matter.

            Coming to question about weight, mileage and overall engine refinement i think trigger might outscore GS on weight and refinement.

            Mileage wise i drive daily 90 kms mostly City traffic and i am getting 50-55 kmpl easily on the GS with constant ripping. Tires is not a big issue, you can get them changed (i got Michelin Sirac on mine), the 6th gear is a big boon, and even if you ride at 25KMPH in 6th there is no knocking of engine.

            Weight of the bike even for me was a issue considering i only weigh 60kg, and the bike was 150Kgs, but after few thousand kms got used to it completely and now flicking through traffic is not a big problem.

            Instrumentation is pretty good, with gear indicator and all the other things (better than trigger), rear breaks of GS are the worst and as someone said earlier 80:20 is the way to go with braking.

            Service center is definitely a problem atleast in delhi, but don;t know about bangalore. I think most of the spares you should be able to get, but for some it is a painful process of waiting.

            Also since you told that you only found the 6th gear and Console as a positive, might be that you are already inclined towards the trigger, if that is the case go ahead buy Honda it will not disappoint you.

            P.s: I have tried to be as much unbiased as i can as i own a GS myself (really love inspite of facing issues, still brings smile to my face when i ride it). Hope it clears some of your doubts.
            No mate... that's the problem, I am too much inclined towards GS , no idea why even thou I am still a bike learner. But as you pointed out the service centers and spare parts can be a problem as i intend to use the bike for at least next 5-6 years.
            I am most concerned about the tires and kinda scared what happens if it gets punctured on the way to office or while on a highway. Otherwise I have driven the HUNK and I liked it because of the weight, guess GS will also give me same satisfaction. Kindly clear my doubts on the tires if I can get tubeless for it, how would it affect the performance. Or correct me if I am unnecessarily worried about the tubed tires, it may not be that bad as still most bikes use tubed tires only.

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            Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
            As per my personal experience out of these two gs150 is any day better but i think you should consider hunk also which is a very good and feature rich bike for its price but its under rated too, dont know why...
            I have drove and liked Hunk very much. But my friend already has one, so I am thinking of a different bike and with all the reviews of GS I started thinking about it, but still I am scared about the A.S.S of GS. Oh God! what do I do.
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            • #21
              Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

              Originally posted by prathappa View Post
              No mate... that's the problem, I am too much inclined towards GS , no idea why even thou I am still a bike learner. But as you pointed out the service centers and spare parts can be a problem as i intend to use the bike for at least next 5-6 years.
              I am most concerned about the tires and kinda scared what happens if it gets punctured on the way to office or while on a highway. Otherwise I have driven the HUNK and I liked it because of the weight, guess GS will also give me same satisfaction. Kindly clear my doubts on the tires if I can get tubeless for it, how would it affect the performance. Or correct me if I am unnecessarily worried about the tubed tires, it may not be that bad as still most bikes use tubed tires only.

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              Tyres is not at all a problem dude.. You can change it as soon as you get the bike delivered and get some good cost for the stock tyres( though its not necessary... Still to keep you happy) and tubeless tyre wont be a problem at all.. No issues on performance or mileage.

              So go for GS if your heart says GS. That will make you love every ride on it. Good luck
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              • #22
                Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                The 6th gear on the GS will be handy if you often ride on the highways.
                "4 stroke's lazy...2 stroke's crazy".

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                • #23
                  Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                  GSR150R - I don't practically see any reason for the bike to carry 6th gear. As such 5th gear will do the cruise.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                    Originally posted by moses.thella View Post
                    The 6th gear on the GS will be handy if you often ride on the highways.
                    Highways only if I go on short trips with friends on weekends. But mostly I will drive in city for going to office at peak traffic time.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                      Originally posted by prathappa View Post
                      No mate... that's the problem, I am too much inclined towards GS , no idea why even thou I am still a bike learner. But as you pointed out the service centers and spare parts can be a problem as i intend to use the bike for at least next 5-6 years.
                      I am most concerned about the tires and kinda scared what happens if it gets punctured on the way to office or while on a highway. Otherwise I have driven the HUNK and I liked it because of the weight, guess GS will also give me same satisfaction. Kindly clear my doubts on the tires if I can get tubeless for it, how would it affect the performance. Or correct me if I am unnecessarily worried about the tubed tires, it may not be that bad as still most bikes use tubed tires only.

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                      I have drove and liked Hunk very much. But my friend already has one, so I am thinking of a different bike and with all the reviews of GS I started thinking about it, but still I am scared about the A.S.S of GS. Oh God! what do I do.
                      As many suggested, go for a test ride and decide.
                      And you don't have to really worry about punctures too much.
                      Even you can go for tuff-up tube from Honda Unicorn on your GS's tubed rear tire, so you can ride with piece of mind.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                        Advantages of Tubeless tires: No fear of punctures, easy repair of punctures (you can do it yourself). Even if the air is lost, due to the thickness of the side walls, you can easily ride at 40-50. No issue of tubes getting damaged.
                        Disadvantages of Tubeless tires: In case of a bent rim, air is lost and the only way to fill air is by putting a tube. Also, minute leakages of air from micro punctures would require frequent air top ups.

                        Advantages of Tube tires: Even if there is a bent rim, air is not lost as the air is in tube. No micro punctures (only full puncture ).
                        Disadvantages of Tube tires: The fear of punctures, can happen any time (if your luck is not good, it can happen at midnight or in a forest in a ride). You can't ride once the tire is lost air as the tire goes literally flat. Only way is to push the bike to puncture shop. If you push the bike with flat tire, the weight of the bike causes damage of tube (350 rupees).

                        My choice is absolutely Tubeless tires. I never had the fear of puncture when I rode Dazzler, in forests or at nights.

                        You can fit tubeless tires on GS150 too. The only option you get is the stock ZMR tubeless tires.

                        I prefer Trigger over Hunk, for the handling of Trigger due to its monoshock, low CG, and less weight. The spares/cowls of Hunk are very very costly (costly stickers and emblems). Trigger has minimal plastic and damages in case of a fall would be minimal. Trigger has 17 inch rims, and if somebody needs a sticky tires, there is the choice of R15 tires.

                        Info: Hunk's side cowl at the tank is approximately 3k, which is costlier than even ZMA side cowl. I was literally shocked when I was told this by the SVC.
                        Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 12-12-2013, 10:01 AM.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                          Hi SatSon,

                          The price is what i recall from my mind. Both bikes were purchased in the month of July. I will check the invoice and confirm. And regarding the mileage on GS, i guess it depends on the way you ride it. I ride between 4500-6000 RPM mostly.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                            Originally posted by prathappa View Post
                            Ya dude, no doubt about that. Have you taken Rear discs and have faced any problems with the bike? What about the pickup and speed?

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                            Thanks to all the guys above. I will be getting a DL but not before next month.

                            Now the comparison, if rear disc brakes are not that superior to drum brakes and TL tyre can be fixed to GS150 which would also increase the handling of GS. Wouldn't it become a better bike than Trigger?

                            The main concern that remains here is:
                            1. Is GS150 really that overweight and a curse while handling in city's peak traffic when compared to FZ, Hunk, Pulsar, CBZ and Trigger?
                            2. I know the Service center is on my way to office, but still can I trust on a bike which is not so common on roads?
                            3. Can I rely on Suzuki? What if they discontinue this brand like Zeus.

                            Also how sure can I be that Honda won't discontinue Trigger as its a makeover of Dazzler. And somewhere I heard Honda Service centers are crap
                            Yep Mine is dual disc.

                            If you think so much about this bike discontinued or that bike discontinued then please don't buy any bike. go straight to Bajaj and get a Pulsar 150.
                            Surely this won't close but keep upgrading.
                            Any bike which is discontinued, still you will the spare parts for good number of years almost 5-7 yrs atleast.


                            Trigger is giving me an average of 58+kmpl.
                            Disc are any time better than Drums.

                            Trigger's brakes are very spongy type. You need to get accustomed too.

                            Handling Trigger in traffic almost same like FZ. It's good.
                            GS is not that great when it comes to handling.
                            Trigger is also comfort. very smooth engine. does 110kmph(till now I got this, din't try for more).

                            I brought this bike for daily commuting with power to average and needed Dual disc with tubeless.

                            Tubeless doesn't mean less puncture but you can ride almost good kms to reach any puncture wala then dragging it to puncture wala.
                            Tubeless is really a boon.

                            GS is a good bike with comfortable riding and good average. But Handling is not that great.

                            Whether it's a GS or Trigger, these both are just a commuter, not a tourer.
                            Touring is dependent on rider than a bike. You can tour on both bikes but GS is more planted than Trigger on highway.

                            If you want it for commuting with good handling and average along with good low end torque with tubeless/Dual Disc then TRIGGER
                            If you think of Touring more and commuting as well , along with 6th gear and average then GS only!!

                            Average wise both are same.
                            Last edited by Guest; 12-12-2013, 03:20 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                              Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              Info: Hunk's side cowl at the tank is approximately 3k, which is costlier than even ZMA side cowl. I was literally shocked when I was told this by the SVC.
                              Hunk's tank cowls are not fragile as Karizma's, plus there is a good old leg guard for it, that will protect almost all the side panels incase of a fall
                              And Hunk now comes with tubeless tires though they're 18 inch ones.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Great confusion: Trigger or GS150R

                                Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                                Hunk's tank cowls are not fragile as Karizma's, plus there is a good old leg guard for it, that will protect almost all the side panels incase of a fall
                                And Hunk now comes with tubeless tires though they're 18 inch ones.
                                I have a friend here who deferred buying the tank cowls after knowing the price. He fell once and the tank cowl got cracked, and he had crash guard too. In case of a fall, ZMA's cowl is as good as Hunk's.

                                NOTE: I fell thrice on my ZMA, and all the time, the joints inside broke. I was able to stick them with feviquick and m-seal and its doing very much fine.
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