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  • #16
    Re: Selectting a 250cc

    Is there any news on whem they are going to open up their plant??

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    • #17
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      ^^^Negative. At least I didn't get any info on the same.

      Dude, get a CBR. Use it for 30-40k kms/2 years. Save in the meantime. Upgrade!
      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
        Ok, let me narrate an incident that happened 1 month back.
        Location - same place near Ulsoor you went to.

        Us - What's the price of GT650R?
        Rep - Sir, its no longer GT650R, it's GTRRRRR... (sounds like GT-AAAARRRRRR)

        Us - Hmm, ok what's special in this bike?
        Rep - Sir, it has dual front disc brakes. Stops immediately! (with a beaming smile)

        Us - (WTF?) Ok, how is it better than N650?
        Rep - Sir, its cheaper by 7k and accelerates like crazy. Also, it has a bigger stock exhaust.

        Us - Ok, how about spares?
        Rep - Since its a supersports, we don't stock all spares, but I guarantee that you'd get them as soon as possible upon order.

        We left the showroom immediately. This is the pre delivery experience. Also, no TR allowed. Yes, Hyosung has improved on quality, but its representatives still suck!

        It a true, some of their showroom representatives are like that. But then again, ever tried going to one of the Ducati showrooms? Those reps make you feel much worse. They make feel like, how dare you walk into the showroom to ask us questions. And this is even if you are a genuine buyer.

        Honestly, kinda disappointed in the way you guys are saying "get the CBR, get the CBR". Did none of you notice, they he really seemed to like the GTR test drive? He also seems aware about the bad part availability. But he still seems interested in the brand. So why force him to buy something he isn't really interested in?
        [MENTION=48290]vyshak[/MENTION]hKN
        The GTR is a very different bike from the CBR. Sure the CBR might be more reliable. Sure the parts availablitly might be better with a Honda. But the GTR has a lot more charachter. How many of you have ridden the GT R saying it's so bad? I have ridden both. And when it comes to feel, the GTR is miles ahead in the way it makes you grin.

        Honestly, not all of us buy a bike looking only at fuel effecincy or reliability, or spares availability. Sometimes, you want a bike that when you take her out, you kinda forget about what you were doing before. And when your back from your ride, it's all you can think about. The GTR might seem like a bike for posers because it's not the fastest, or doesn't handle the best. But what if you don't want that?

        There are many Hyosung owners who are disspaointed with the service centers and the general less quality of the bike. Buy it, if your prepared to deal with. Yes, Hyosung has started getting better. Yes, they are taking time to get on their feet. They might, or they might not. But there will be those times when the bike is working, when you are riding, and everything will seem perfect.

        Also, there is a tourer thread where on of the members here went on a long trip on the GTR250, and he didn't face any problems. You should go tthrough it, maybe ask him if you have any further queries about mainting the bike.

        If you know inside that's the GTR is the bike you want, don't settle for less.

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        Last edited by Lenov; 12-11-2013, 09:26 PM.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Lenov View Post

          Also, there is a tourer thread where on of the members here went on a long trip on the GTR250, and he didn't face any problems. You should go tthrough it, maybe ask him if you have any further queries about mainting the bike.



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          I had talked with nagoo. He is one of the gt250r owners in bangalore. He has been to long rides on his bike and didn't face any problems. The talk happened after the thread got posted.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by Vyshakh KN View Post
            I had talked with nagoo. He is one of the gt250r owners in bangalore. He has been to long rides on his bike and didn't face any problems. The talk happened after the thread got posted.

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            Ah okay, I wasn't aware of that. Well then you should have all the information you need for deciding which one you like now. Both are brilliant bikes in their own respects. Whichever you get, don't make yourself feel like you are settling for it. Sometimes it might feel like you are taking a risk, but then it's alright! All the best!

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by Lenov View Post
              So why force him to buy something he isn't really interested in?
              I guess being an ex Comet owner, I can say a thing or two. The TS has already talked to nagoo on this as I read. I have only 2 friends who have GT250R in BLR. One is nagoo and another is Abishek (my senior in office). So, I have a fair share of riding experience on both - Comet and GT250R.

              And all that grin would be gone when(ever) you face issues with the Hyosung. Luckily nagoo and Abishek haven't faced any. But again, reliability isn't credited in a year or two. It takes many years for the same and Honda has built the trust and reliability.
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                I guess being an ex Comet owner, I can say a thing or two. The TS has already talked to nagoo on this as I read. I have only 2 friends who have GT250R in BLR. One is nagoo and another is Abishek (my senior in office). So, I have a fair share of riding experience on both - Comet and GT250R.

                And all that grin would be gone when(ever) you face issues with the Hyosung. Luckily nagoo and Abishek haven't faced any. But again, reliability isn't credited in a year or two. It takes many years for the same and Honda has built the trust and reliability.
                Your right, it takes time. As a comet owner, I'm sure you have experienced issues, and no doubt it's very disappointing. As far as I have seen, most of the issues that Hyosung is so famous for were with the GT650R. The GT250R has only been introduced under DSK ownership, and I haven't read or heard about any serious problems with them. But the fact is they are nice bikes. Riding the GT250R is a different experience. Very different from even riding a Ninja. The TS clearly likes the bike a lot, and is thinking about it very seriously. And he is aware of the problems, and ready to face them if any such problems arise, then why not.

                But each to his own, I just found it very dissapointing that no one really said anything except "get the CBR" even though the TS was clearly showing alot of interest in the GTR.

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                • #23
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                  ^^ Agree. The TS can have a look here too - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/279...eet-naked.html
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    I guess being an ex Comet owner, I can say a thing or two. The TS has already talked to nagoo on this as I read. I have only 2 friends who have GT250R in BLR. One is nagoo and another is Abishek (my senior in office). So, I have a fair share of riding experience on both - Comet and GT250R.

                    And all that grin would be gone when(ever) you face issues with the Hyosung. Luckily nagoo and Abishek haven't faced any. But again, reliability isn't credited in a year or two. It takes many years for the same and Honda has built the trust and reliability.
                    Being an ex comet owner, what are the major issues you faced?

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Vyshakh KN View Post
                      Being an ex comet owner, what are the major issues you faced?
                      Service related issues, sourcing consumables like brake pads, swing arm bushes, cone set, bearings etc became difficult. We waited for 4 months once to get the rear rim after it got bent from a big pothole. Finally dad got one from his trip to China. We rebuilt the bike soon and gave it to a collector nearby. He has the bike washed and polished in his workshop. It doesn't move as some issues crept up in its crankshaft post an accident with the new owner.
                      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                      • #26
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                        Yikes. No wonder your against it. That sounds really bad. Even most GT650R owners don't have that bad an experience!

                        Quick question though, when you see the Hyosung bikes now, do you feel, compared to your Comet, the build quality/component quality has improved?
                        (Leaving aside the SVC problems for now)

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Lenov View Post
                          Yikes. No wonder your against it. That sounds really bad. Even most GT650R owners don't have that bad an experience!

                          Quick question though, when you see the Hyosung bikes now, do you feel, compared to your Comet, the build quality/component quality has improved?
                          (Leaving aside the SVC problems for now)
                          Absolutely YES!

                          Leave my Comet, the quality has improved from its inaugural version too. There are a few noticeable weld joints which are not masked well and their chrome bits/nuts/bolts do rust even now. But not as bad as in the days of yore.
                          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                          • #28
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                            my 2 cents:

                            Hyosung 250- perception - if going for looks. as reliability and service is reported having issues. Buy if FOR poser value, short rides under 100KM. nothing wrong in that..
                            Ninza300 - costly BUT if got the Moolah, nothing better..
                            CBR250 - well.. relaxed tourer with pillion.. a bit underpowered compared to counterparts.. BUT with ABS it costing = Duke390 naked.. and RC390 is around the corner.

                            RC390/RC200/P200/P375 - can wait a bit. read launching in Feb2014 and should be available by May. would be between 1.5 Lakhs to 2.5 Lakhs.. all well within range.. and OPTIONS..

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                            • #29
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                              I will be using the bike for atleast 5 years. Now considering that, what should I do?

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Vyshakh KN View Post
                                I will be using the bike for atleast 5 years. Now considering that, what should I do?

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                                5 years is a long long time. Almost all modern motorcycles are capable of easily lasting for 5 years and beyond with regular maintenance and proper care. What's harder is to still be just as fond of that motorcycle as you were when you got it. Now this depends from person to person.
                                For some, they will look at the costs incurred in the 5 year period, total cost of maintenance and the value they are expected to get when they sell the bike and accordingly choose their bike. They still enjoy the bike, but it's not a decision made from the heart but rather from the head.
                                Some are less focused on the money aspect. They think about whether or not the bike will make them just as happy after a ride 5 years down the line as it does now. To these people, money spent over the 5 years is not a high priority. It's a decision made from the heart.
                                And there's yet another segment of people to whom it really doesn't matter what the ride. What matters to them is how they look when the ride. Their decision is based on the opinions of what others think about the bike.

                                I would suggest you see which place you fall in and what you feel. All of us here can tell you the pros, the cons, we can tell you our opionions. It's you who must choose.

                                That said, in the long run, there's no doubt the CBR will be the most reliable. It's without doubt. Even if you do have problems they will be rectified without much of a hassle. It will also be the cheapest to run with respect to fuel and maintenance costs.

                                The Hyosung, well, it hasn't been around for that long for anyone to have an idea. So far, the GT250R's seem to be doing just fine. Fuel and maintenance will be on the higher side for sure.

                                I'm only gonna leave it at these 2 because these are the only bikes that you have mentioned and shown interest in.

                                Hope this helps!

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