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Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

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  • #16
    Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

    Originally posted by v2k View Post
    True, the ZMR is an underrated bike. Power is set low for a 200+ cc engine to provide mileage (for example a duke200 will give you at max 35 - 38 whereas a ZMR manages a 40+ on avg). ZMR is based on honda's tech, so you can expect the machine to retain most honda characteristics. The only thing I and most people dont like about the ZMR is the styling, if that, lower power, commuter rear shocks (jees, they did'nt give it a mono shock, I mean even unicorn has one) dont matter to you, I'd say go for it. In fact ZMR old one had a better styling than the 2014 one.

    I disagree on another 150cc not making a difference / an upgrade part. It finally depends on you !
    Is not the cc that really counts, an R15 / CBR / Duke / ZMR / Apache all ride different.
    Choose what suits your riding style. See the cons in ownership reviews, and decide if you can live up with it.
    For example, an Apache vibrates more than a normal bike after 60.

    R15 in 1 word is aggressive. You look at it you wanna race, you ride it, it makes you.

    A Duke is all about low, high end power, middle is flat, its a street bike, and acceleration is good.
    I dont like its sound (engine makes sound of a vibrating tin can - short stroke side effect).

    CBR is a rough and tough bike. Any CBR 150 / 250 for that matter has been lasting + ticking longer than others. See the reviews.
    Rev hungry, attention grabber, sound is just awesome. Pillion comfort sets a standard for a sports touring bike.

    Ride all of them, take a test ride. Read all ownership reviews + forums on bike problems.
    Search on google for "xbhp ZMR problem" / "xbhp CBR problem" / "xbhp R15 problem" they will tell you what the bike is.
    I spent 3 months reading + riding all this before buying mine.

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    rock18,

    bhabi will like it initially but later she will hit you on the head. Pillion comfort is not a plus of R15.
    Please dont misguide. The R15 has other areas to score, not this one.

    Yes technology is good, build quality is good, power & handling is good.
    Forget the thing about a relaxed ride, not for you, not for the pillion.

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    Just sharing what I gained from this forum.



    Every showroom has its problems, go to the manager again and tell him you are serious about buying this etc etc. you need to know if it will suit your riding or not etc.
    Tell them its important and you'd be disappointed by their way of handling customers if they did'nt listen.

    If he does'nt budge at all, you can complain in hondas website. And they whoop their asses properly for it.
    I dont believe in correcting others repeatedly. mi8 be he gains a lesson but you will waste time.
    I suggest you try another showroom if the manager doesnt turn out well.
    Bro I have not misguided just read it care fully what I have written. I asked him to take test ride with her mate to make right decision from every test ride.


    Apologize if suggested any thing wrong

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    • #17
      Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

      Originally posted by nony View Post
      Bro I have not misguided just read it care fully what I have written. I asked him to take test ride with her mate to make right decision from every test ride.


      Apologize if suggested any thing wrong
      Nothing wrong in suggesting/sharing your experience and knowledge.. people have different opinions and you have your own.. you shared your opinion and i dont thibk anyone got offended for you to apologize.

      So chill..

      Cheers,
      Reneav

      Sent from my Spice Mi-530 using Tapatalk
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      Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
      P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
      Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
      ZMR - 2010 to Forever
      RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
      Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
      RayZ - 2015 til now
      Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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      • #18
        Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

        Originally posted by nony View Post
        Bro I have not misguided just read it care fully what I have written. I asked him to take test ride with her mate to make right decision from every test ride.
        Apologize if suggested any thing wrong
        No apologies required buddy... And nothing wrong in saying your view too, might be you find it comfortable.
        Just feel that you should have say it openly that comfort is not what an R15 is known for (I've told what I've told since you highlighted the comfort part),
        I appreciate the suggestion to test ride it with a pillion ( a girl to be frank ).

        since the R15 lacks a grab rail, the pillion needs to stick to the rider. Hope yall get my point Has its PROS and cons

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        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
        CBR fairing costs just 1.5k?? Are you sure??
        I quoted an approx figure based on xbhp forums. I did not have the need to replace a fairing, and never plan to.


        Originally Posted by StylishKiller
        A Bad Day.

        Yesterday night, my Bike was parked outside my house for an hour or so. Someone "PLAYED" with my bike and dropped it on the left side and then picked it up and ran away. Father parked it in the garage in the night. Today morning, when I had a look at it, I was shocked. Left fairing had a scratches and a big CRACK (cry) and the left cowl (I don't know what it is called) had a crack too. (Pics attached).





        hi , the fairing may cost around 1025/- and the back cowl around 230/- .
        your insurance will cover 50% or even 60% in accordance with your insurance company !!
        I think you should try the front guard next time .

        For Reference,

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        • #19
          Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

          Originally posted by v2k View Post
          No apologies required buddy... And nothing wrong in saying your view too, might be you find it comfortable.
          Just feel that you should have say it openly that comfort is not what an R15 is known for (I've told what I've told since you highlighted the comfort part),
          I appreciate the suggestion to test ride it with a pillion ( a girl to be frank ).

          since the R15 lacks a grab rail, the pillion needs to stick to the rider. Hope yall get my point Has its PROS and cons

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          I quoted an approx figure based on xbhp forums. I did not have the need to replace a fairing, and never plan to.


          Originally Posted by StylishKiller
          A Bad Day.

          Yesterday night, my Bike was parked outside my house for an hour or so. Someone "PLAYED" with my bike and dropped it on the left side and then picked it up and ran away. Father parked it in the garage in the night. Today morning, when I had a look at it, I was shocked. Left fairing had a scratches and a big CRACK (cry) and the left cowl (I don't know what it is called) had a crack too. (Pics attached).





          hi , the fairing may cost around 1025/- and the back cowl around 230/- .
          your insurance will cover 50% or even 60% in accordance with your insurance company !!
          I think you should try the front guard next time .

          For Reference,
          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...195-print.html
          Anyway Bro I find it good enough I completed 1k km on first day I bought the bike and on the next working day it's in svc for first service [emoji4]

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          • #20
            Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

            Originally posted by v2k View Post
            I quoted an approx figure based on xbhp forums. I did not have the need to replace a fairing, and never plan to.
            I understood what you are trying to say, but when he says fairing, it might be just the side that got crack.. the fairing has a left cowl, right cowl, front cowl & lower cowls.. in this case, the crack is on one side and what I feel is, he is saying about the left cowl..

            The best way to find out is going to the Honda ASC and find out for ourselves.. besides, the rear cowl will cost most than 230 which I am damn sure of.. besides, it is a Honda buddy.. they won't give their spares at that low cost..
            Splendor - 2k to 2006
            Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
            P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
            Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
            ZMR - 2010 to Forever
            RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
            Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
            RayZ - 2015 til now
            Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


            Delhi to Narkanda
            Delhi to Coimbatore
            Delhi to Nepal

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            • #21
              Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?




              Check this site for all honda and. Yamaha spares specs and price list

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              • #22
                Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                Thanks for all the replies guys. I have sent a mail to the customer care of Honda and heromotocorp asking for test ride of CBR150 and Karizma zmr respectively.
                I might also do a test ride of Duke RC200 to see if that fits my driving style, As of now RC200 is not available for test ride here in Chennai.
                Its fairing has less ground clearance and will clearly scrap some of the huge speed breakers we encounter here. Correct me if am wrong.

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                • #23
                  Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                  Bdw you never really specified or prioritized your requirements.
                  Just a binary question which led to a lot of assumptions (obviously), eventually leading every advise ending with a disclaimer of take a test drive and see for yourself.
                  Well from the start itself if everyone had said, Take a test drive of all the bikes with/without your pillion and see for yourself which suits you, there would have been no premise left to begin with.

                  It reminds me of the importance of asking a close ended specific question with a set of context/reference under which an answer is expected.
                  That way you won't waste an opportunity to get a gem or two out of an expert, if you happen to encounter one.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                    Originally posted by nony View Post
                    Bro If ur concerned about power +commuting +touring!

                    R15 V2 is real companion

                    As concerned for pillion seat it's comfortable for females compared to gents.

                    Take bhabhi with u at nearest YAMAHA Showroom or just book a ride. And then u will definitely have changes in ur views, it's only machine designed and proven for unmatched handling with same delta box frame as R6 and R1,and is designed By YAMAHA India. So it's mainly a Indian bike with Japanese technology. Just once give it a try at least test ride. Promise u both will enjoy and love the bike a lot lot.
                    Fanboy spotted

                    R15 v2 is one of the worst when it comes to pillion comfort.Understand OP's requirement. For daily commuting,and touring you need a bike which has relaxed position and good low end torque. R15 fails miserably on both fronts. Its not bike's fault - its designed to give mini superbike feel, for those who want to rev high, do cornering. I agree it has one of the best look for Indian bike and got some of the advanced tech. But its just not practical bike daily commuting.
                    For your comment being R15 as champion of power +commuting +touring , again its power aint that high either - there are many bikes in the same class providing more power.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                      Originally posted by 1235sam View Post
                      Fanboy spotted [emoji3]

                      R15 v2 is one of the worst when it comes to pillion comfort.Understand OP's requirement. For daily commuting,and touring you need a bike which has relaxed position and good low end torque. R15 fails miserably on both fronts. Its not bike's fault - its designed to give mini superbike feel, for those who want to rev high, do cornering. I agree it has one of the best look for Indian bike and got some of the advanced tech. But its just not practical bike daily commuting.
                      For your comment being R15 as champion of power +commuting +touring , again its power aint that high either - there are many bikes in the same class providing more power.
                      Still it's the best in class bike. [emoji7]

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                      • #26
                        Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                        Guys..Just an update.
                        I did not get a proper test ride of CBR 150R. Sent a mail to HMC regarding this. but its of no use, So i am dropping CBR150R from my list.
                        There is a surprise entry though...
                        Just for the sake of it,I test rode Duke 200 and liked the driving position immediately.But the bike which i test rode is 13000kms run Demo bike, so lot of vibrations and engine sounded harsh.
                        So will try to ride a decently maintained Duke 200 to see if its good.

                        As of now i am slowly leaning towards the new Karizma ZMR for its smooth engine.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                          Originally posted by rock18 View Post
                          I did not get a proper test ride of CBR 150R. Sent a mail to HMC regarding this. but its of no use, So i am dropping CBR150R from my list.
                          They are just trying to destroy their reputation of good quality and great build by their pathetic ASS. But try and see if you can get some friend's or associates bike for a short ride. That would be much much better.

                          Originally posted by rock18 View Post
                          Just for the sake of it,I test rode Duke 200 and liked the driving position immediately.But the bike which i test rode is 13000kms run Demo bike, so lot of vibrations and engine sounded harsh.
                          So will try to ride a decently maintained Duke 200 to see if its good.

                          As of now i am slowly leaning towards the new Karizma ZMR for its smooth engine.
                          Was it the duke or the RC....?
                          karizma is a proven vfm comfortable and overall a nice bike. no worries there. Do update the thread when yo get it.

                          and be very sure if you wanna catch the duke bug. Its pretty hard to shake it off.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                            Originally posted by rishabh153 View Post
                            They are just trying to destroy their reputation of good quality and great build by their pathetic ASS. But try and see if you can get some friend's or associates bike for a short ride. That would be much much better.



                            Was it the duke or the RC....?
                            karizma is a proven vfm comfortable and overall a nice bike. no worries there. Do update the thread when yo get it.

                            and be very sure if you wanna catch the duke bug. Its pretty hard to shake it off.

                            Again please dot the abbreviations. Its not ASS its A.S.S. or just go ahead and write "after sale".
                            Btw the duke is useless for anyone wanting to carry a pillion at any point in their lives but otherwise, all round, its a good bike mate. And RC series is for the track not the streets but a good bike nevertheless. So lets not be so quick to dismiss it. Give the poor dukes a chance.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                              Originally posted by rishabh153 View Post
                              They are just trying to destroy their reputation of good quality and great build by their pathetic ASS. But try and see if you can get some friend's or associates bike for a short ride. That would be much much better.



                              Was it the duke or the RC....?
                              karizma is a proven vfm comfortable and overall a nice bike. no worries there. Do update the thread when yo get it.

                              and be very sure if you wanna catch the duke bug. Its pretty hard to shake it off.
                              It has to be the Duke.. the RC200 hasnt reached most of the showrooms rather not even a single showroom just yet. And completing 13000 kms in less than a month after launch?? Seriously??

                              Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
                              Splendor - 2k to 2006
                              Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                              P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                              Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                              ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                              RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                              Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                              RayZ - 2015 til now
                              Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                              Delhi to Narkanda
                              Delhi to Coimbatore
                              Delhi to Nepal

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                              • #30
                                Re: Karizma 2014 or CBR 150R? which one is a better buy?

                                Thanks guys...Yes its Duke 200 not RC.
                                Infact i liked the RC200, so went to the showroom to test ride it, Since there is no test ride vehicle available,I tried Duke 200 and was surprised with its straight riding position.
                                It was like a riding a faster and sporty FZ-S. That got me thinking.
                                Duke 200 was no where in the list till then as i love full fairing bikes more than the naked bikes.

                                Back to back Test ride of duke 200 and ZMR made me lean towards ZMR as it got decent pickup atleast till 60 and its so refined/smooth.
                                Having said that,ZMR vehicle which i rode has done only 82kms and Duke 200 was an abused one clocking 13000kms. So i will wait till i test ride a decently maintained Duke 200 to finalize my decision.

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