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**Synn** · 03-06-2009, 01:05 PM

Query approved.

**ravi@17bhp** · 03-06-2009, 01:09 PM

Regarding the reliability, as you have experienced, Zma is a no-nonsense bike. Excellent for touring. The lot of P220s now are reliable than the initial lots, but still we do not know how the bike behaves after two years. Long-term reliability is yet to be established. Decide and take a plunge.

Maybe there is an upgrade for P220 soon. Wait for that.

**krishnadevanur** · 03-06-2009, 01:09 PM

^ Thanks for the quick approval synn

Regards,

Krishna

**Praful** · 03-06-2009, 01:11 PM

Am sure you are aware of the pro's and con's of both the bikes!

I'll just answer your question on reliability. Simply putting it, the 220 of today is loads more reliable than it was when it was launched. But still its not yet as reliable as the ZMA.

I can assure you the 220 of today is reliable enough not to leave you stranded on a highway!

Rest, its entirely your take.

PS: Why did you sell the ZMA?

**krishnadevanur** · 03-06-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Regarding the reliability, as you have experienced, Zma is a no-nonsense bike. Excellent for touring. The lot of P220s now are reliable than the initial lots, but still we do not know how the bike behaves after two years. Long-term reliability is yet to be established. Decide and take a plunge.

Maybe there is an upgrade for P220 soon. Wait for that.

Thanks for your advise ravi. I remember my zma looking at your userpic

Regards,

Krishna

**krishnadevanur** · 03-06-2009, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

Am sure you are aware of the pro's and con's of both the bikes!

I'll just answer your question on reliability. Simply putting it, the 220 of today is loads more reliable than it was when it was launched. But still its not yet as reliable as the ZMA.

I can assure you the 220 of today is reliable enough not to leave you stranded on a highway!

Rest, its entirely your take.

PS: Why did you sell the ZMA?

Praful,

I had to move abroad and no one at home were ready to maintain the bike. So, decided to sell it off. I would've got the p220 if the waiting period was not that long in '07.

Regards,

Krishna

**pranay** · 03-06-2009, 01:42 PM

Krishna,

I would suggest you test ride a P220 and feel the difference between the bikes. The pulsar is more edgy and viby but the ZMA has a very relaxed engine. You have already owned a ZMA, so there would no need to test ride the new one.
As Praful said, the current 220 has been recitified alot from the first batches and it is definitely better than before, but still not as much reliable as a ZMA. It just acts wierd at times.

Waiting for a P220 upgrade is chasing the wind. Bajaj has not confirmed it and it might not come at all. But then again, they might just release an upgrade suddenly. Personally, I would not wait for it unless there is some concrete info.
One thing is definitely sure though. The ZMA is a much better tourer than a P220. It is relaxed and eats up miles without you knowing it. I own a p220 and having ridden both over long streches, I definitely cannot say the same for the P220.

**Jonak** · 03-06-2009, 02:00 PM

Since you are a tourer and you will be traveling frequently, ZMA is the bike for you. It's there for a long time and it is extensively tested. My ZMA has never given me trouble in the highway. It is also 10K cheaper than the P220.
But again, since you already owned a ZMA you can go for P220 as well.

**Sandeep_K_Ram** · 03-06-2009, 02:07 PM

You had a ZMA-R ... you sold it ? And you want to buy another one now ?

Irrespective of that, I would suggest ZMA-R. Its a no-brainer. You have used it for a while, you know how good it its, you have done your research you know where the p220 stands.

**niranjanvaidya** · 03-06-2009, 02:19 PM

Man, you have invoked scope for more sin by starting a thread that will eventually turn to be a battleground between the loyalty camps on both sides

comparing a 220 with ZMA is like comparing Sehwag with Tendulkar (on a superficial scale...cricket fans, please dont kill me for this)...
One is an accomplished, feared, technically perfect, occasionally human, performance personified, "figures speak for it" kind of a person (Tendulkar)
whereas the other one is raw power, arrogance (of the constructive kind), equally feared, technically imperfect but effectively destructive, sometimes inconsistent and an out and out performer (Sehwag)

If you ask most captains, they would want both

**Praful** · 03-06-2009, 02:21 PM

^^ Nicely put!

**krishnadevanur** · 03-06-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Sandeep_K_Ram View Post

You had a ZMA-R ... you sold it ? And you want to buy another one now ?

ya, quite funny.
I was not ready to wait long for 220 and wanted to check the RTR which was released in'07. The showroom was closed and was going back home. On the way, i slipped in to HH showroom where there were 2 zma's.1 red and another black. I wanted black one but the fairing was damaged during transit. The showroom owner told me that he will get it fixed in a week. My desparation pushed me to buy the red zma the next day.
Without a test ride, I bought the red one the very next day. When I rode my zma for the first time it was almost 2 yrs I touched a bike. it never let me down. I rode it in to muttodi forests, ghats without even thinking about the breakdowns.

I am still confused, but this time it will be a black bike

**Praful** · 03-06-2009, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by krishnadevanur View Post

ya, quite funny.
I was not ready to wait long for 220 and wanted to check the RTR which was released in'07. The showroom was closed and was going back home. On the way, i slipped in to HH showroom where there were 2 zma's.1 red and another black. I wanted black one but the fairing was damaged during transit. The showroom owner told me that he will get it fixed in a week. My desparation pushed me to buy the red zma the next day.
Without a test ride, I bought the red one the very next day. When I rode my zma for the first time it was almost 2 yrs I touched a bike. it never let me down. I rode it in to muttodi forests, ghats without even thinking about the breakdowns.

I am still confused, but this time it will be a black bike

^^ This sounds nearly like what would have been my story!

I was confused between the 220 and RTR, both were just launched. Though I had booked the 220, I was still looking at the RTR. Just then I went to take delivery of my then roomie's ZMA and saw this gorgeous silver ZMA staring at me in godown. I had the money, I nearly bought it.....just something held me back. Dunno what...but I was so tempted to buy the ZMA when I saw the silver one!

I hope this doesnt confuse you further!

**rpmboy** · 03-06-2009, 02:52 PM

P220 .....look no further. It gives gd value for money

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