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**payeng** · 03-06-2009, 02:54 PM

The Projector Lamps on the P220 are the Brightest among current crop of desi bikes..

On a dark night the highway gets lit up as if being illuminated by a car's highbeam.

**krishnadevanur** · 03-06-2009, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

The Projector Lamps on the P220 are the Brightest among current crop of desi bikes..

On a dark night the highway gets lit up being illuminated by a car's highbeam.

exactly. I still remember the close shaves I had with dogs, jaywalkers on NH4 every friday night when I used to travel to my hometown from Bangalore, whereas my friend on his 220 would do constant 100 even in the dark.

**Synn** · 03-06-2009, 03:24 PM

I just thought of adding one tiny bit. A wild card, if you may:

You mentioned the Thunderbird, right? Why not go for the Unit-construction engined Bullet classic then? The Cycleworld guys seemed pretty impressed by it and I gotta say, it's the first RE motorcycle that actually appealed to me.

MG · 03-06-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by pranay View Post

The ZMA is a much better tourer than a P220. It is relaxed and eats up miles without you knowing it. I own a p220 and having ridden both over long streches, I definitely cannot say the same for the P220.

Personal Opinion-For me its the other way round though I fully agree about what has been said about Karizma in this thread.

@niranjan-Exactly my view.If you want more fun in your ride then P220 is the bike to go for.

**MavericK46** · 03-06-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Synn View Post

I just thought of adding one tiny bit. A wild card, if you may:

You mentioned the Thunderbird, right? Why not go for the Unit-construction engined Bullet classic then? The Cycleworld guys seemed pretty impressed by it and I gotta say, it's the first RE motorcycle that actually appealed to me.

Rather than slugging it out over a P220 and a Zma, this is a wonderful suggestion

@Krishna : Synna's suggestion makes perfect sense. You're looking for a tourer and you've already owned a Zma.
The newer RE's (With the UCE) are certainly far less moody than the earlier bulls. The oil-territory-marking and quite a few niggles have reduced is what ive heard from people here on xBhp.
Budget withstanding, the 500LB is atleast worth considering mate

**Trigger** · 03-06-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Synn View Post

I just thought of adding one tiny bit. A wild card, if you may:

You mentioned the Thunderbird, right? Why not go for the Unit-construction engined Bullet classic then? The Cycleworld guys seemed pretty impressed by it and I gotta say, it's the first RE motorcycle that actually appealed to me.

is the UCE Bullet classic available here? I thought it was only for the export market.

**ravi@17bhp** · 03-06-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

The Projector Lamps on the P220 are the Brightest among current crop of desi bikes..

On a dark night the highway gets lit up being illuminated by a car's highbeam.

You can compensate for the poor lighting on Zma with an Osram Nighbreaker bulb. Really as good as P220s lighiting, though doesnot get better.

**Synn** · 03-06-2009, 03:39 PM

Is it? I was under the impression that India gets the 350 CC version while the 500 CC is export only.

**MavericK46** · 03-06-2009, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Synn View Post

Is it? I was under the impression that India gets the 350 CC version while the 500 CC is export only.

The Classic is export-only as of now. Some RE owners we're told that the classic 500 will be launched. The launch date hasn't been revealed however

**krishnadevanur** · 03-06-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

Personal Opinion-For me its the other way round though I fully agree about what has been said about Karizma in this thread.

@niranjan-Exactly my view.If you want more fun in your ride then P220 is the bike to go for.

Originally posted by MavericK46 View Post

Rather than slugging it out over a P220 and a Zma, this is a wonderful suggestion

@Krishna : Synna's suggestion makes perfect sense. You're looking for a tourer and you've already owned a Zma.
The newer RE's (With the UCE) are certainly far less moody than the earlier bulls. The oil-territory-marking and quite a few niggles have reduced is what ive heard from people here on xBhp.
Budget withstanding, the 500LB is atleast worth considering mate

I am a little bit apprehensive about the maintenance. I see lot of people complaining about engine related issues and maintenance.
But, I have to confess that no indian bikes will come close to the performance while riding through the hills. Anyone riding a UCE350 can reply regarding the maintenance?

**Sandeep_K_Ram** · 03-06-2009, 04:08 PM

I am sure the UCE is going to be very reliable. But it has not been "tried and tested" like a ZMA.

You said you are into touring... then you need 100% reliability. Though no bike can guarantee that, a bullet is usually not associated with reliability.

I think its a risk to go for the first lot from a new model.

I think you should stick to your original plans and choose between the 220 and the ZMA.

If you want refinement and peace of mind - I think the ZMA is the best choice. There are many other reasons why you might want the 220...

**Ansh_a.k.a_Razor** · 03-06-2009, 04:59 PM

I owned the whole pulsar family except the P180UG3.
Dunno why but am a bit crazy about the raw power of it.
Have both now P220 and ZMA R.
Zma is very common in roads as compare to P220.
P220 gave more vibes , Zma have smooth engine.
Both are bad in circuit race - P220 - higher footpegs but unstable grip around corners while braking.
Zma - very low footpegs more a commuterish than a circuit racer though very stable grip and awesome braking with nissan brake pads.
P220 not as much as reliable as Zma.
Now if I was in your place , I definately go for Zma, but its your choice so you decide buddy!

**krishnadevanur** · 03-06-2009, 06:39 PM

Thanks everyone. I think I am falling for the zma again. Ofcourse, this time it will be black. Checked with sai motors and got a reply that they don't have stock and it'll take 15 days. There is some news of zma-fi coming out. But it hardly matters for me as long as the engine runs smooth and troublefree.

OT: Before selling off my previous zma, i was considering to fit HID, but some of my friends told that it voids warranty. I don't understand one thing about the warranty, is it for individual parts or for the bike?
eg: I run my bike on HID and something goes wrong in gearbox,then will i get the replacement under warranty or i have to pay for it?

Regards,

Krishna

**jayprashanth** · 03-06-2009, 07:31 PM

Yeah, you'll lose warranty if you install the HID kit. Even if your gearbx conks, they'll blame the HID.

**MavericK46** · 03-06-2009, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by krishnadevanur View Post

Thanks everyone. I think I am falling for the zma again. Ofcourse, this time it will be black. Checked with sai motors and got a reply that they don't have stock and it'll take 15 days. There is some news of zma-fi coming out. But it hardly matters for me as long as the engine runs smooth and troublefree.

OT: Before selling off my previous zma, i was considering to fit HID, but some of my friends told that it voids warranty. I don't understand one thing about the warranty, is it for individual parts or for the bike?
eg: I run my bike on HID and something goes wrong in gearbox,then will i get the replacement under warranty or i have to pay for it?

Regards,

Krishna

Took me roughly 15 days as well mate

Id paid in full for a black Zma R on the 17th of Feb to Prakash Motors. A lone Zma R procured from Sai motors was offered within a couple of days.
That bike had huge patches of touch-up paint on the tank as well as side panels.
I obviously didn't pick the bike and hence the patience-test from HHML

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