I want to know if the person who started the thread has made a decision

??

He has already enquired about the availability of Karizma. Seems he is still confused.

Excellently written.. OT.. How the hell you do it in such neat words???

@NV : You hit the right note buddy

Why not R15?

He zeroed in on Zma and P220 after eliminating R15. Seems you wanna put more oil to the flame.

Alaa kaadu Ravi Anna, manchi back brakes kawaal annaadu...so I suggested R15 (fun to talk in Telugu)

KZMA rear brakes are good enough IMHO. At least better than on a P200. I don't think the rear brakes are his only priority.

Has a decision been made ?

[quote=chilled_fire;177091
As for the matter with ZMA its the most trusted bike "fill it, ride it types" .The main reason behind this being it simple mechanical Bike, NO ECU, Fuel Injection .....


So bottom line is.
If you love to take care of your ride, go for 220.
for others its ZMA .

PS:NO offence meant to anybody . I respect both the bikes ![/quote]


Bottom Line is: Someone who doesn like taking care of his\her bike is "No Biker" but a "Poser"

Regarding Karizma not being a hi-tech bike and hence its reason for no breakdowns is "utter crap"
The way a bike is put together, the quality and the craftsmanship constitute in building a "reliable bike".
Amen.

^^^ dude , with all due respect to ur lame language, If possible try and read through the 220 pages of Pulsar 220 ownership thread , most of the issues ppl have are really small ones like fairin vibes,disc brake noise , else most of the time its electronic.
So please think before you simply go ahead and treat others opinion as CRAP !

@Mods : IMO this thread has served its purpose to the guy who started it...any further talks might lead to conflicts !

no idea

Thanks...

@ALL: It is high time this thread came to some conclusion. Mods...advise please

What would lead to conflicts is replies from people like you.
I think the Mods know when to put an end to a thread or discussion.

What Pulsar IS or should BE is not something im bothered about, what IM bothered about is comments from people who are ignorant in matters of Motorbikes.
My post was only to correct your insight on "Less technologically advanced bikes" being less prone to break-downs as opposed to "Technologically advanced" bikes being more prone to break-downs.

If that remark ain't lame, i don't know what is lame.

thank you all guys for your inputs.
I test rode the p220 and it was real good. I didn't feel the vibes/false neutrals. The engine was smooth but I can't say it's better than zma. I rode the R15 too. But the super stiff suspension will not allow me to ride in the roads which I usually do.

Finally I got to ride a p220 and was very happy with the ride. No false neutrals/vibes as complained against it. Earlier, I was desperately searching for a black zma. I am amazed by the arrogance of HH showroom guys. Now, I never know whether will be heading to Sai motors or Venkat's.

Lastly, I thought a thousand times before posting this thread because of instigation of a brand war. I started this thread since I have seen how a zma performs for 14k kms, I just wanted to know whether I can trust the p220 riding in to muttodi forests. Because I ride a lot around chickmagalur, if I get stranded somewhere, getting a pickup to get back my bike to service center will be a real pain. I believe both p220 and zma has their own pros and cons. None of them are perfect.
I will either get a zma or p220. But definitely I will let you all know once I get it.

I thank you all guys for your advice. mods may lock this thread. I will post in the ownership thread once I get my bike, in zma thread or p220, i too don't know.

Regards,

Krishna

I own a ZMA and my dear friend owns a 220. So I have spent enough time on these bikes in city and while touring. Over the time I have realized how these two machines behave. This is what I felt.

Suspension
ZMA Suspension is any day better than 220.

Breaks


Engine Heating and Noise.
220 produce more heat and engine noise is more.

Handling.
ZMA is easy to handle and better than 220, very flick able than 220. 220 feels bit heavy in front and hence not that great to ride in city, especially in traffic. Hand pains like anything in stop and go situations. In corners also ZMA feels better than 220. Turning radius on a 220 is more compared to ZMA.

Accelerations/Pulling.


Riding comfort.
No question here ZMA is far better here. Even the pillion seat is comfortable on ZMA especially when u have a saddle bag. On higher speeds (above 100) ZMA feels more relaxed than 220. Vibes are more in 220 and that u can really feel it on your butt and hands. ZMA clutch is very soft than 220. Also when u have to stop 220 from higher speed and you down gear it gives too much of vibes.

Stability.
220 is more stable than ZMA at higher speeds, ZMA wobbles in windy roads.

Light
J.

Tires


Body Parts
Karizma plastics are real poor, rear part breaks after 15-20k. Depends on the kind of roads you ride, though I have not replaced it so far (43k done). Thought I felt the ZMA front fairing is more strong and fit than 220. ZMA easy to trip if u need to fix something.
Parts are well organized than in 220.

Horn


Looks.
I will leave it to youJ.

Mileage.
220 better may be by 5km for a litter.

Maintenance Cost








Anyways best of luck! Which ever you buy, Ride any of these max for 3 years then get a new one to fill ur thirst for more.

that was one awesome review. Thanks Ashwin.