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  • #46
    Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
    ^ These are all-together different things yaar...!!

    What that guy is that after the stall...the bike wasn't starting....but out of no where after 30 mins the bike starts up and fine...as if nothing had happened...!!

    Now how can above problem relate to what you said...and secondly i never heard such problem in HH bikes...!!
    never did I on a pulsar (barring the 220... if it stalls... ur gone , no 30min.. nothing)
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    • #47
      Originally posted by chetanpulsar View Post
      never did I on a pulsar (barring the 220... if it stalls... ur gone , no 30min.. nothing)
      God forbid such incident..!!

      But, dont catch me haan...!

      Kindly visit the nearest PBK for more details..!!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by chetanpulsar View Post
        I can smell brand war (cold war)..... some trying to pull the p220 into unwanted reliability issues chapter... and some trying to defend it.
        hehehe...someone must be sitting around with a bottle of coke and a bucket of popcorn

        No Im not trying to defend the Pulsar or Bajaj for that matter...its just that stalling issues will occur with any and every bike that you buy off the market. In some you have major ones and in the other you wont even see it till it becomes a major one.
        It also depends a lot on how you maintain it...

        @Inder: enough of the OT...and yes, HH is a fill it, shut it, forget it
        Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by payeng View Post
          Let me grab some coke and popcorns... Prime Time entertaintment is about to start.
          hmmm...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Aditya-biking pro View Post
            ZMA is coming with abt. 25 bhp,some tech goodies,fi and 250 cc engine.It wouldn't have rear disc brake,self cancelling indicators,projector headlamps etc. etc. thats what i have heard.220 is coming with 21 bhp,maybe a new fairing,carbon-fibre exhaust,black engine and wheels and new decals.......220 may launch in march-april while zma in aug 09.

            Hope i would get my hands on it.
            Forget it....that ZMA is a 100% rumor! Honda has'nt introduced FI even on its 2009 CRF230. And the rest is just a cook-up! As for the 220 upgrade, again its rumour, Bajaj has'nt anywhere mentioned that they are going to be upgrading it!

            It might end up being a wild goose chase if you keep waiting for these rumours that you are hearing!

            Originally posted by Aditya-biking pro View Post
            Can anyone know what were the problems in earlier batches/lot of 220s and which of them are resolved in the current 220s?
            Thanks in advance
            In addition the list that niks mentioned there have been several changes, most being internal that have helped the bike in being more reliable.

            But that being said, I can tell you that you most probably will not face any major issue with the 220, but it definitely needs regular maintenance!
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            • #51
              Originally posted by R15Rocks View Post
              I can think of one-in all Pulsars. They suddenly get stalled for no rhyme or reason whatsoever,&refuse to start for about 30min.or so. Later, they start as if nothing had happened!
              Rode a Pulsar 150 DTSi for 3 years (53000 odd KMs)
              (Never had above said problem)

              Riding a Pulsar 200 DTSi for 1 year now (16950 KMs as of this morning)
              (Never had above said problem either)
              Last edited by dominic; 03-18-2009, 09:23 AM.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                In addition the list that niks mentioned there have been several changes, most being internal that have helped the bike in being more reliable.
                hmmm then i am sure just the relay coil ,starter motor and some ecu thing also has been changed in my bike , remaining things are the way they were.I hardly ever visit the sc , and when i do atleast they never tell me if they changed something in the bike.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Aditya-biking pro View Post
                  Hii everyone,i m planning to get a bike for myself in 2-3 months and i m damn confused between pulsar 220,yamaha yzf-r15 and karizma r(don't like much)
                  i like Pulsar 220 most but not sure abt. its reliability and smoothness of engine,And i want to know when the new 220 with 21 bhp coming?I like R15's looks,but it is cramped(i think),and with the tech-goodies it comes,it do not justifies it price,Also its not good for city riding as its power is optimized for higher rpms(for touring etc).....Karizma is a brillant tourer but it lacks goodies.Also i wont do much tourung......
                  plz. help me guys,i m in a great fix.........!
                  You want to choose between 3 bikes....and you have a problem with all 3 bikes.

                  First and foremost, the bikes you have chosen are not intented for city riding(which is your requirement) Zma and P220 are big and heavy bikes(by Indian standards) and R15 is geared to deliver its horses at higher revs.
                  You tend to be leaning towards the P220 and the owners have spoken about its reliability.

                  RTR Fi should be considered is what i would say, taking into consideration your city useage.
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                  • #54
                    @Aditya-biking pro: let me clear some things to u....

                    P220's reliability is better than before, but its long term reliability is still no where close to ZMA, u'll have to spend more on its maintenance than on ZMA, simple.

                    R15: It's NOT cramped. Small in size doesn't mean that the bike is cramped, ok. Its completely fine for the men of all shapes and sizes unless u are abnormally big or small!!! And please, for god's sake, there's no problem in riding R15 in the city, ok! It has got enough grunt at the bottom. So it's good.

                    ZMA: It's a proven motorcycle in every kind of a weather, place...u name it, this bike has been there, done that!!! Frankly, ZMA's carburator works better than the P220's FI system....hehehe.....for me, its still better than P220 in everything!

                    And u say R15s price is not justified...do u even know what it offers??? Pick R15 if u have the money i'll say.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Akkiben View Post
                      You want to choose between 3 bikes....and you have a problem with all 3 bikes.

                      First and foremost, the bikes you have chosen are not intented for city riding(which is your requirement) Zma and P220 are big and heavy bikes(by Indian standards) and R15 is geared to deliver its horses at higher revs.
                      You tend to be leaning towards the P220 and the owners have spoken about its reliability.

                      RTR Fi should be considered is what i would say, taking into consideration your city useage.
                      I would take RTR 180 Menace not the 160 fi because i want to have a little more power,if the 180 doesn't launches in the mean time,i'll go home with the 220.
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                      • #56
                        Dont know why we all want bikes which are nt launched yet ??

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                        • #57
                          Hahaha...you gotta a point there. All the best.
                          I wish i had driven the P220, but the P200 sure din invoke much of the biking spirit.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by rohitabc View Post
                            Dont know why we all want bikes which are nt launched yet ??

                            And then go on to complain about the initial niggles.




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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by 46 the Greatest ever;180029[B
                              R15: It's there's no problem in riding R15 in the city, ok! It has got enough grunt at the bottom. So it's good.[/B]
                              +1
                              U just need to keep it above 3000RPM..which will take couple of days to get used. I am pretty much satisfied with R15's city drive.
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                              • #60
                                sold a zma-R and got myself an R15, i don't find much problems except for the RVM's(which are great on highways)

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