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    Hi All,


    I'm starting this new thread since I am in a dilemma on which bike to buy. I have gone through several threads where members have posted their queries and clarifications on a specific bike, but my case is a little different and hence the reason for starting this new thread.


    We'll I'm 35 years old, have a lovely family (wife + kid), more or less settled with a decent job and moderately luxurious life. As you might have guessed by now, this is a typical middle aged professional's story. I'm sure 9/10 people in the age bracket of 35-45 yrs would have the same state of life. But we are not here to discuss the about different phases of life so let me get straight to the point.


    The last time I rode a bike was in college (about 15 years back) and the bike was 1st generation Bajaj Pulsar 150 which I had named 'YAMDUT' !!! We'll it's a long story on why the name YAMDUT and besides it's out of scope for today's discussion. I still have that bike, though it's in my native and used by my cousins.


    Off late I have been gripped with a very strong desire to purchase a bike. It was not the case for the past 15 years and I was very happy to graduate to a CAR and loved the comfort it provided against my bike. But i guess "once a biker always a biker"!!!. So i started researching and went through various threads, reviews, ownership reports etc on multiple bikes and their variants. To be honest all of this got me confused.


    So one day I sat down and noted down my requirement and expectations from a bike. I have listed the same for your reference:


    Requirement & Expectations
    90% city commute & 10% highway or long rides
    Monthly run limited to 500 Kms - Since, I would be using my car along with the bike
    Pillion comfort mandatory - Otherwise from "being happily married" it would be "was happily married"
    Will not be used for racing or track days
    A notch above standard 150 CC bikes. I'm looking for atleast 250 CC
    A fun bike to ride


    Budget - 2.5 lacs Max




    Based on the above I shortlisted a few bikes and I would request you help and guidance in choosing the correct one


    KTM DUKE (200/390)


    Overall an exceptional VFM Bike. Crazy Power and highly popular among youth.


    Why it doesn't work for me?
    Not very fond of Orange. Doesn't go with my age (again it's my own prerogative)
    More tuned towards the youth
    Too much power and doesn't like sedate driving or cruising. More race oriented
    Pillion comfort has very low score in 99% of the reviews I have gone through


    KTM RC(200/390) & Why it doesn't work for me?


    All the reasons for not choosing Duke + Riding Posture


    NINJA 300


    Exceptional bike. Very good riding dynamics, showstopper looks and that envious green color.


    Why it doesn't work for me?


    Price, Price and Price!!!!


    Confused Between (See Below)


    ROYAL ENFIELD


    Well I don't need to write anything about it. Superb brand, cult following and the Thump. Enough Said!!!


    Why I like this


    SUITS My Physique - I'm 6 ft tall and weigh 88 KG
    Durable - This bike will age with me and would suit me even when I hit 60.


    So where's the Problem


    Niggling royal enfield issues, Hell lot of maintenance, sub standard After Sales Service, Outdated technology


    MAHINDRA MOJO


    Heard a lot of Good things about this bike. More Cruise Oriented and solid bike. Riding Position is upright. Power flows in linearly and doesn't go into beast mode right from the word Go.


    Good Price


    So where's the Problem


    Not sure about Mahindra's capability as a bike manufacturer in the first place. The bike has not proved it's mettle as yet. After Sales service remains a question. Design is a bit quirky (again it my personal opinion).




    BENELLI TNT 25


    Read good things about this bike in XBHP ownership reviews thread. I have checked it personally in the showroom and it looks great in flesh. Fit and Finish is impeccable.




    So where's the Problem


    I feel it is overpriced for a 250 CC bike
    Not sure about DSK. They where with Hyosung earlier and now Hyosung is nowhere to be seen
    After sales service and spares are bit expensive based on the information present in various forums




    I would therefore request all the fellow XBHPians to help me in making a choice based on my requirement. Any suggestions, guidance will be highly appreciated!!!


    THANKS,
    BAJRANG

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    Query Approved

    You can remove all KTMs out of your list, or remove 'happily married' out of your marriage

    The Mojo is good, pillion comfort is suspect again. The Benelli doesn't score fantastic marks for pillion comfort either!

    Which leaves you with the RE.

    Which leaves you with the Hornet 160! Unfortunately, not a lot of bike manufacturers care about pillion comfort.

    Buy whatever she feels comfortable on, i know that sounds odd, but well you are a married man
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    Why don't you include cbr 250r in your list.I agree that it's outdated but it's still a good bike and has good pillion comfort along with good cruising speed.
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    I'm no expert in bikes but just want to tell that it's awesome pillion comfort in Royal Enfield. I love being a pillion on my friend's Classic 350. The cushioned seats are just relaxing.

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    Any reason for leaving out CBR250? Because it's a tried and tested bike with good pillion comfort.
    TNT25 commands the price because of the quality and performance it offers as compared to some European and Indian bikes though its still far as comapared to the Japs in quality and refinement department.

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    Why CBR250 is missing in your list ? RE will be best for pillion, but if this two do not make it your list.

    You should go with TNT 25, I really liked the Pillion and i am happily married with that pillion comfort
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    Hi,

    Well if we exclude the ktm and the benelli then i think RE's fit the criteria nicely.
    If maintained nicely then it shoudn't be much difficult for you; as per your requirements ( city riding ).

    How about a second hand ninja ?
    As the only deterrent is the price; 2.5 l should bag a decent baby kwacker ?

    P.s :- How do others feel about second hand KAWASAKI's ? ( mind you NOT second hand ktm/hyosung/benelli etc)

    I mean even if we pay up for a few consumables, isn't it worth having a complete package ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    Query Approved

    You can remove all KTMs out of your list, or remove 'happily married' out of your marriage

    The Mojo is good, pillion comfort is suspect again. The Benelli doesn't score fantastic marks for pillion comfort either!

    Which leaves you with the RE.

    Which leaves you with the Hornet 160! Unfortunately, not a lot of bike manufacturers care about pillion comfort.

    Buy whatever she feels comfortable on, i know that sounds odd, but well you are a married man
    Hey Monk, Thanks for your inputs. I did consider Hornet 160 initially and to be honest liked it as well. But there were a couple of reasons why I have sidelined it. The first being it's a 160 CC and I'd like to move up the power ladder to at least 250 CC. The second being it doesn't have an engine kill switch. But overall, I agree it's a good package.

    Being married has it's own Pros and Cons. The biggest Pro is being married to someone who doesn't know a lot about bikes. Well that's the biggest con as well since the lady would never appreciate the cowl of an RC 390!!!! So the choice of the bike is entirely mine as long as I can find one with good pillion comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motomonster View Post
    Why don't you include cbr 250r in your list.I agree that it's outdated but it's still a good bike and has good pillion comfort along with good cruising speed.
    HEY motomonster, I still have honda cbr250r in my list but didn't mention it in my post as it would have lead to too many options and that's where it becomes confusing. Well the reason it's at the bottom of my list is because of the following:

    1. Pretty old. Honda has just launched some face lift variants with new colour schemes. Not sure if Honda has it's priorities set in the 300-500 cc segment.
    2. Not very fond of faired vehicles and prefer naked over them

    Thanks,
    Bajrang

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    Quote Originally Posted by viksp94 View Post
    I'm no expert in bikes but just want to tell that it's awesome pillion comfort in Royal Enfield. I love being a pillion on my friend's Classic 350. The cushioned seats are just relaxing.
    Thanks viksp94, RE scores high in my list as well. In RE I'm thinking of Standard "BULLET" 500. Any feedback that you can share regarding the same.

    Appreciate your help!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krishna77 View Post
    Any reason for leaving out CBR250? Because it's a tried and tested bike with good pillion comfort.
    TNT25 commands the price because of the quality and performance it offers as compared to some European and Indian bikes though its still far as comapared to the Japs in quality and refinement department.

    Krishna77, I have already responded about CBR 250. But two consecutive suggestions from you and motomonster has got me thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiKeLovER View Post
    Why CBR250 is missing in your list ? RE will be best for pillion, but if this two do not make it your list.

    You should go with TNT 25, I really liked the Pillion and i am happily married with that pillion comfort

    BikeLover, Indeed TNT 25 is a pretty enticing package and I did take a test drive (albeit short one) to get a hold of the bike. There is a little vibration the refinement level was also a concern. But the exhaust note was awesome for a 250 cc single cyclinder.

    It's the aftersales and the promoter DSK that I'm worried about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnewguy View Post
    Hi,

    Well if we exclude the ktm and the benelli then i think RE's fit the criteria nicely.
    If maintained nicely then it shoudn't be much difficult for you; as per your requirements ( city riding ).

    How about a second hand ninja ?
    As the only deterrent is the price; 2.5 l should bag a decent baby kwacker ?

    P.s :- How do others feel about second hand KAWASAKI's ? ( mind you NOT second hand ktm/hyosung/benelli etc)

    I mean even if we pay up for a few consumables, isn't it worth having a complete package ?
    The typical middle class mentality comes into play my friend. Paying 2.5 L for a 2nd hand Bike..... I hope you understand !!!! I have to listen to my DIMAAG along with my DIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAJRANG View Post
    -----DIMAAG along with my DIL

    Hehehe

    And the dimaag can't Ignore the Math... !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by viksp94 View Post
    I'm no expert in bikes but just want to tell that it's awesome pillion comfort in Royal Enfield. I love being a pillion on my friend's Classic 350. The cushioned seats are just relaxing.
    Did you ever get to burn the rubber of your shoes/sandals :P I have had Hawt RE rides during summer where I had to get off the pillion seat every 30 mins due to the torching heat from silencer.. oh yeah, had to remind myself not to rest my feet comfortably

    Jokes apart.. Why not consider the CBR250R.. it is a wonderful piece of machine which suits all your requirements.. Yes, I agree to your point about it being aged.. but it does its job.. it is reliable.. it is comfortable and hey.. you get ABS as an option.. which is what I would prefer first
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