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You would not get the initial torque in the R15.

The R15 is about as comfortable or uncomfortable as the P220.

The R15 would skid on loose gravel as much as any other "street legal" bike with street tyres. However the R15 is a trifle uncomfortable on bad roads compared to the 220. But then the R15 is THE best handling bike in the country.

This is about all that I can answer.

And finally, no your questions are not stupid.

Thanks for the approval ken da.
Is the poor low-end torque much noticable?

wait for new zma i would say then u can decide !

the answers are there

It's not as if you'll be riding both bikes all the time, so once you settle for one of them, your riding style itself will be molded to conform to the bike's character. But since torque at low end is important to you, P220 is the clear winner here.

I'm only gonna talk about some things that I know for sure.. like the fact that the horns on the new R15s (racing colors bla bla) are way better than the older ones. Lots of R15 owners have installed HIDs for their bikes, but there's a certain way and limit to this, you should go through ownership threads to glean more information.

Yes, R15 tyres are better on normal / wet roads. Should slush or gravel come your way, well.. it's not gonna be great. P220 is better here, but only since u specifically asked for this riding condition.. Normal roads - R15 tyres are the BEST.

From stuff I've picked up from the ownership thread, with normal riding, one can get anywhere between 38-44 kmpl on the R15, I have no idea about mileage figures of P220.

Oh btw, P220 is 30K cheaper than the R15. Value for money, in your face by bajaj.


I have ridden both bikes though not extensively. Heart was set on the R15 though and so I booked it finally. I loved the R15's confidence inspiring character and 'goodies' in terms of engine, chassis, etc. P220 gives you a big bike feel, good handling, and it pulls NICEly at low revs too, something thats missing on the R15. But hey, the '70 cc' deficit had to be obvious SOME place na?

Lets leave p220 aside for sometime,now is the R15 better in low end pull than other bikes including apaches,fzs,fazer etc.....?
And is the R15 better in braking,handling and suspension than the p220? Can anyone give me the true acceleration figures of the premium segment bikes available here plz.?

If u want to buy a bike only for city touring then its the P220 for you!
R15 dosen't provide ample initial torque but its more than ample for a 150cc bike! Infact the acceleration is marginally lesser than P220 or P200.
If gears shifted in correct ratios u can always have the upper hand on all signal GP.
Still P220 have the upper hand.


Dude! We shouldn't be talking about the riding posture!!
Its a SBK replica..and Always a SBK replica have SPORTY riding posture!
A Street Racer and SBK can never have the same riding comfort and posture!
Ok!
Cmin back to ur question..
R15 needs a bit of 'getting used to'
Once u get used to the posture its way comfortable ALWAYS!
P220..yeah its a city rider come stunter come tourer..
So its a general riding posture with slight variation..u can call it a tourer posture. For me Both are equal on this front.

I guess, u dont buy bikes to ride on sand and gravel??
R15 has India's best grip on road,get my words.
P220 cannot compete r15 in this segment.
Though like each and every 2 Wheeler the r15 also skids on loose gravel and Sand. Nothing like notice issue.
Monoshock works exellent on high speeds and on bad roads its equally uncomfortable like P220.

U can install HID on R15 but it would drain the batter if u use it on both high and low beam for long durations (i.e. Some 5 hrs)
Pulsar guddies
takes the upper hand here. U wont get projectors,backlit switchgear,dual-horn,self-cancelling indicators etc etc on r15. Though new R15 have LOUD horn. And dual headlamps provide enuf illumination.

Nearly equal.
R15 takes the lead here if ridden with care.

I am worried about handling P220 in city because its 30 kilos heavier than R15 and has a much taller height too. Is R15 faster than apache RTR 180 & Karizma?

R15 is best Indian bike in terms of Breaking and Handling.
It is GLUED to road no matter on what speed its Cruising.
Breaking Is on Par with R15.
Only bike which dosnt gives that Jerky feel under hard breaking.
SIMPLY AWSOME.
We had already described the suspension part.

i guess i can help coz even i had the same dilemma few days ago.

1. we shd not forget that at the end of the day the two bikes have a 70cc difference in cylinder size so that would matter somehow. In simple words, i have smoked enumerable R15s in streets on highways and anywhere else. Trust me brother, it does not stand a chance against the 220 and yes the difference is noticeable.

2. 220 would be more comfortable coz R15 is more leaned front.

3. R15's rear is not too wide but dont miss that this is made of special compound rubber. However, in 220 you get the same special compund rubber in 120 than R15's 100.

4. HID can be done on both R15 and the 220. Needless to mention 220 is known for its lights. AS far as i know, u dont get baklit switches on the R15.

5. 220 is reportedly churning out an average of around 35-55kmph under various conditions and for different people.

Last, i personally rode both bikes. R15 is sporty, looks gorgeous..but you know, somewhere lacks that power. I dont blame the 150cc engine, the poor chap is doing all that it can.

220 on the other hand offers you a little desipan in style but satisfies on the performance front. I bought a 220carb a week ago but earlier i had a 220 FI (bought it same day with ken da) and boy 'o' boy i had fund riding that bike so i bought it again....now you can make your mind

(i'll recommend 220, mast hai)

I had wrote that P220 is for city riding coz of its better puller property.
Except that managing those extra 30kilos and tall height is really tough.
R15 riding posture keeps u tucked in thus making too much of zig zag a little tougher.
But its still better than P220 for me.

Thanks bro,i have already test rode the p220...Now its time for the R15-maybe tomorrow,will check out its lower torque!
Is yamaha providing LED tail lamps and HIDs as an option? I have read sometime back that yamaha is going to provide HIDs as an option on one of the race-kits.

Ahem! Ahem!
I can get that city part but highways?
Jokes apart please!

Once u get used to the riding posture its a breeze.
it helps the rider,keeping him tucked in,thus making breaking,handling,leaning way better than p220.
And p220 dosnt stand a chance vs R15 anyway in these three department.

Nopes!
No HID's and No LED's from Yamaha.
Dunno bout HID kits but body kit is worth 20k..
More than enuf.
But yamaha provides led pilot lamps 3 times brighter than any led as an accessory worth 500bucks.