What do you mean by "R15 has a high torque range"..

I agree, any heart will always say P220 since the test rides are always on doubles.
There is no sub 220cc production bike in india which is faster than P220 on doubles

@ wheel spin : ^ That could be a one-off case my friend, resulting from many factors which we might not take into account, it's not good to generalize. But valuable info nonetheless, now he can never say that no one told him. And there's no case where an R15 has lost its smoothness, the way you described above.

Lets not confuse the man any further. Test ride !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No dude! i didn't mean to say R15 has high torque range... i wanted to say it makes up for the 70cc deficit IN THE HIGH REV RANGE.... my mistake there!! A Typo.... !!

And as far as this story goes..... you need to maintain the bike properly.... be it a P220 or R15. Buddy don't say such things unless you yourself have experienced the above said problems. The maintainance of your friend could be different from yours.
No offence!! But let's not fight on which bike is better but guide the guy to the bike which satisfies his requirements.

High Rev Range, yes narrow peaky powerband and to assist a close ratio gearbox.

i wonder why p220's engine comes with 5years unlimited mileage warranty.... even r15's engine doesnt have 5yrs warranty!

My point was simple.. the top whack is just ONE parameter in highway cruising, so the point was just a reply rossi_god

+1 most of these "I need to know a 'X' bike vs a 'Y' bike vs a 'Z' bike" threads has to stop somewhere.... everybody just recommends a bike that they own... fight like crazy pulling each others brand! The sanest solution offered is a "Test Drive" which obviously doesn't need a thread for itself.
There is an ownership thread, there are comparison threads.

Heck it would have been so much simpler had there been a thread of an official review by a moderator of a bike and people 'value adding' on that thread! and then n00bs can pick and choose what parameters are they looking for! A new thread everytime such a waste of time!

Dear aditya...glad that you have decided to go with r15 finally...

after being a pulsar 150 & 180 owner for more than 6 years I can say that r15 is in a league of its own...

I still own & maintain the pulsars as they too are an integral part of my biking...

haven't had much experience on the 220 except for a few rides so can't really comment on it

but 1 year of using r15 for 20 k kms has only given me pleasure and made a much better biker out of me

A Word To Thread Starter -
Brother,some people buy R1's and Hayabusa's. They keep these machines in their bedroom, polish them every 2nd day and finally take it out on weekends.
Where?
They just take a ride to nearby mall
Or they start their bike go to nearby vegetable shop,buy some "aloo's" and come bck home,enjoying every eye glued on their mean machine, finally they place their R back in bedroom!
Why?
Just to reapeat the same routine next week!

There are some other people too,who buy the R1!
Very next day of purchase they bring it on track to enjoy every single thump of adrnaline in the mill..
When satisfied bring it back home,polish it,and next day they again go out,enjoying every bit of their babe!
Exploring what else their R can do,passing on the heaviest of traffic with breeze or zooming past every object(cars etc) on highways!
Leaning on 180's or doing rollings on 250's!

So whats the diffrent between two?
The first one is a Poser Boy!
The bike is just a show of for him..
Even A hero Puch would serve the purpose of buying aloo's
Thats a terrible waste of bike!

Second one is justifying a Biker!
He bought the bike because the bike serves his purpose.
He bought the bike because it is way he uses the bike,for the way this bike is made to be used!
Thats the awsome use of Bike!

Hope u understood..So its upto u..
Decide which bike serves ur purpose in best way!
Dont go for looks or this Bhp and That Torque
!
Make it awsomly used insted of terribly misused..

I had written this on a topic P220 vs FZ..
But waching the situation I thought that maybe it is worth posting here!!

Njoy!

^^ I agree with you Shanz
One confusion though
You said some people by the bike for the purpose of what ts made for. I say most people do
There is a filthy rich guy in dubai who has an SLK studded with diamonds and is placed in a specially dedicated showroom. the guy even charges money to have a look at the masterpiece and more to feel it
Now although seems to be stupid...but again...if i had so much money...man I would have got 3 different Mercs studded in diamonds and placed in a dedicated showroom.
Who would care about the race track...i would have built one...if I wanted...and changed it in the same place when I wanted

This is the best answer

there you go...

I do understand that my friend but my idea was that if you want to drag any two bikes in delhi then nothing better than a highway. I am well aware of highway cruising

that is true...XBhp is indeed a place where a filled-to-the-neck biker can vent his frustration with you brother...ain't right?

Finally, it seems WE all took the thread in a very wrong direction (as has been mentioned by ample people already)...bechare ne sirf advice maangi thi and we literally went on comparing even the PW factor for both bikes

lets spare the man and as also has been advised, test ride and follow your instincts bro. FOr the arguments...i still believe a road is a better palce than a forum

PEACE

I test rode the bike yesterday but only for just 100-200 metres as it was raining. I liked the riding posture and especially throttle sound. Also,the r15 coming with new graphics, has a little louder horn too,its loud but not loving as of the p220 but overall its v.good!

Also,i have noticed that there is almost no difference in the previous blue colour and the racing blue colour. I wonder it could have been the old one! Am i right,are there any changes?


Please,guys don't take this thread to brand-wars because i don't want myself to be emerge as a thread-starter of fight between p220 and r15. Plz.,help me about the practical aspects/comaprison of the two. I would like to know it!

Plz. guys tell me whether i should wait for the new ZMR or R15 as i m going to book R15 soon maybe today or most probably tomorrow!

I have very less time to decide as the showroom guy is coming to my house for booking. What about ZMR??(vaise i am more inclined towards R15)!

cant you call up and tell that guy to come up some other time .

If you are inclined towards R15 then I think you should fall on it
Go for what your heart says man but if possible just wait till new ZMR launch whose date and price is uncertain .

look who is smoking! lol
Remember when you smoke someone next time let the other person know that you are trying to drag!


P220 riders will be embarrassed to have you as one among them man, maybe they've already written you off..

I particularly liked your post below.

Hope Bajaj is not making bikes per your requirements, though its highly likely.
Its a 21bhp, definitely male, the man and the black is feared!

Now should the thread starter go for the P220? a few years back it was the only option after the Great ZMA, now you have the capable RTR180. Forget the R15, its not value for money if you don't consider taking it on track or if you prefer initial torque rather than a peaky setup, you will be strangled if you don't know how to ride in narrow powerband motorcycle.
Forget the misleading ads and what others say, what is it that you really want on a motorcycle and choose the closest.
And I bet it is the P220