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go for the R15 man..p220 sucks..it's too heavy and tall one..yammie is also little efficient too..and YAMAHA is the future of india...
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chicky, please don't flame.
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I say again, test ride is the only way out. You know what you want ..Comment
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best touring/city bike is pulsar
best track bike is r-15
best city/sports bike is rtr
you seemed to be inclined towards p-220 go ahead take a test ride & then make your mind {as your heart is on the fastest indian}
i would suggest you to go for the pulsar 220
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Ans <1>This can nobody can that which R15 would be better in this aspect than p220 this you have to decide.R15 initial torque and acceleration is very good but pulsar's is not too bad but P-220 score in its final torque and acceleration figures due to its huge new carb biggest on any Indian bike even RE..Originally posted by Aditya-biking pro View Post(1) I would be using the bike mostly for city touring,hence i want to know whether R15 would be better in this aspect than p220. I like p220's initial torque and acceleration very much.Do the R15 provides this. I want v.good acceleration and initial torque. It should be ample nonetheless!
(2) Would R15 be comfortable than P220 inspite of the sporty riding position?
(3) I have heard that R15 skids on loose gravel and feels uncomfortable in little-bit bad roads. Is this much noticable?
(4)I like the typical pulsar goodies too much like projectors,backlit switchgear,dual-horn,self-cancelling indicators etc. Hence,would like to know the availability of these in R15? Are the headlights and Horns of R15 good? This is a stupid question to ask but this matters me alot!
Can i install HIDs on R15 later on?
(5)Last but not the least,whats the city mileage of these two bikes(though not much important)?
I know,my questions are little-bit silly but i m very much confused.Plz. help me guys. Thanks in advance!
Ans<2> R15 would not be comfortable than P220 inspite of the sporty riding position
but this is only for long rides(touring purposes) its more of a street racing bike...
Ans<3> Yes R15 skids on loose gravel but not always depend on curves & speed(every bike can skid) no that is not much noticeable..
Ans<4> the headlights are awesome but big NO to horn(its not horns its only one horn) in a 1L Rs bike which looks
in india
Ans<5> P-220 has 38-40 city & 40-45 on Highways R15 has 40 city and 45-48 Highway bro mainly depend on the rider...Ride Safe & Ride Long-->
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I have no idea about these personally, but can quote BikeIndia's August issue and they have listed: TVS Start City, Honda Stunner, R15, RTR180 and P220 as the best 0 to 100 and 100 to 0 figure bikes in their categories: upto 100cc, 125cc, 150cc, 180cc, 250cc.Originally posted by Aditya-biking pro View Post
Interesting figures:
0-100kmph 100-0kmph 0-80kmph
R15 14.09 4.43 8.5
RTR180 13.21 3.21 7.88
P220 13.15 3.96 7.91
These figures are really interesting, and sort of make RTR 180 as the best puller till 80kmph and best stopper too
So other bikes are not even in comparison. Hope this helps.Comment
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Thanks for the figures.In acceleration,there is not much of a difference. R15 is good since it has overall good acceleration. But i wonder how the R15 can go down in braking figures??Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View PostI have no idea about these personally, but can quote BikeIndia's August issue and they have listed: TVS Start City, Honda Stunner, R15, RTR180 and P220 as the best 0 to 100 and 100 to 0 figure bikes in their categories: upto 100cc, 125cc, 150cc, 180cc, 250cc.
Interesting figures:
0-100kmph 100-0kmph 0-80kmph
R15 14.09 4.43 8.5
RTR180 13.21 3.21 7.88
P220 13.15 3.96 7.91
These figures are really interesting, and sort of make RTR 180 as the best puller till 80kmph and best stopper too
So other bikes are not even in comparison. Hope this helps.
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Do not rely the figures of BI. I was shocked to see P220's figures are calculated with near 100-kg rider (bunny) and RTR 180's figures are achieved with a mean person (around 60-70 kg).Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View PostI have no idea about these personally, but can quote BikeIndia's August issue and they have listed: TVS Start City, Honda Stunner, R15, RTR180 and P220 as the best 0 to 100 and 100 to 0 figure bikes in their categories: upto 100cc, 125cc, 150cc, 180cc, 250cc.
Interesting figures:
0-100kmph 100-0kmph 0-80kmph
R15 14.09 4.43 8.5
RTR180 13.21 3.21 7.88
P220 13.15 3.96 7.91
These figures are really interesting, and sort of make RTR 180 as the best puller till 80kmph and best stopper too
So other bikes are not even in comparison. Hope this helps.
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Last count, he had gone over a quintal! Thats what he said!Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View PostI was shocked to see P220's figures are calculated with near 100-kg rider (bunny)The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!
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Even i was too shocked reading both the articles. According to it,RTR 180 is a mere fracion slower than the fastest indian!Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View PostDo not rely the figures of BI. I was shocked to see P220's figures are calculated with near 100-kg rider (bunny) and RTR 180's figures are achieved with a mean person (around 60-70 kg).
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If so, that's not a good practice by BI and they'll loose trust if such things continue to happen.Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View PostDo not rely the figures of BI. I was shocked to see P220's figures are calculated with near 100-kg rider (bunny) and RTR 180's figures are achieved with a mean person (around 60-70 kg).
Till 100Kmph.Originally posted by Aditya-biking pro View PostEven i was too shocked reading both the articles. According to it,RTR 180 is a mere fracion slower than the fastest indian!Comment
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The problem is that there is always incosistency in the tests. The timings in one issue will be different from the timings in another issue.Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View PostI have no idea about these personally, but can quote BikeIndia's August issue and they have listed: TVS Start City, Honda Stunner, R15, RTR180 and P220 as the best 0 to 100 and 100 to 0 figure bikes in their categories: upto 100cc, 125cc, 150cc, 180cc, 250cc.
Interesting figures:
0-100kmph 100-0kmph 0-80kmph
R15 14.09 4.43 8.5
RTR180 13.21 3.21 7.88
P220 13.15 3.96 7.91
These figures are really interesting, and sort of make RTR 180 as the best puller till 80kmph and best stopper too
So other bikes are not even in comparison. Hope this helps.DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVeComment
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I guess most of your questions have been answered. Since you asked about the 'city' mileage, I have been getting 43kmpl in city since the last 14 months, no matter how I ride it. I use Extrapremium petrol&normal petrol gives about 38kmpl.Quench my thirst with gasoline!Comment
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aditya : test drive r15 preferably (from your friend) so that you are at liberty to do a fair drive to judge the bike. R15 is world's cheapest entry level sports bike, it's packed with lots of Yamaha high techs., visit Yamaha website and know more about R15. Being a sports bike it's riding posture is different from commuter/street bike like P220.Comment
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Is that a joke or sumthing?Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
R15 taking 4.43 sec with most GLUED breaking??
Wheras RtR 180 is doing 3.2 sec with that longer wheelbase and not so grippy breaking??
Common we are talking bout 100-0,and not 60-0..
LOL..
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If these figures continue they wont sell for long.Comment
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Originally posted by Shanz View PostWho spoke anything about the acceleration figures!Originally posted by ravi@17bhpBraking and wheelbase have nothing to do with acceleration figures.
It is known fact that R-15s powerband is higher up after 5k rpm. Obviously 0-60 figures would be slower than RTR180 and P220.Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more
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