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  • #31
    Originally posted by Udayakiran View Post
    Well, the bikes power was expected to be around 22 bhp, before the specs were released. I've been following that bike for a long time. I even read about yamaha reducing the bhp to 17 because 22 bhp was considered impractical for indian conditions. I'm not sure about the source, because it was long back.
    This is practically a Vixion or T35 maxed out engine from Yamaha.

    The 17 BHP's ensures you to get the best of both worlds, it ensures that you get a feeling of Superbike and a Splendour (FE!!).
    Awsome top whack plus a good fuel efficiency, Indian mass mentality you see!. And if you really want to compete on acceleration then match Torque specs and not the BHP specs.

    Originally posted by Udayakiran View Post
    I've heard a lot about R15's +ives.
    And about looks, well, i got a rude shock with i first saw it in the flesh. It certainly looks very small. [Just my opinion.]
    I agree! Even I was less than happy to see the rear for the first time. But it definetly cannot pull 165kgs of Kerb weight on that puny engine. And forget to shove in 140/80 tyres(as sum 1 suggested), I doubt that it would even move.

    Originally posted by Udayakiran View Post
    Yes, it is an excuse. And yes, I am a HH fanboy, though i hate admitting it. The original CBZ has been my dream bike for 10 years and thats making me lean heavily in favor of the Karizmas.
    See! I knew ur a pathetic HH lover..
    Though I had loved the CBZ AND CBZ STAR, my all time favo machine which I adore even now, and I would definetly buy a CBZ STAR if I found one in good condition.


    Originally posted by Udayakiran View Post
    Okay, but the riding posture?
    If any r15 owners can tell me their experience riding it in heavy traffic, i'd be grateful. Almost 95% of the people i've asked said that it is difficult riding it in the traffic.
    It will take maximum of two days to get used to the Riding Posture.
    Dude! Its a SUPERBIKE REPLICA, what do you expect from it? A lether cushioned Cruiser seat on R1 which is good enuf for midway sleeping naps??
    And every day I ride at least 5kms in buisiest of traffics constantly in first gear and below 10kmph, but after 2nd day of ownership I never had problems in this sort of helluwa traffic jams!

    Shanz

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Shanz View Post
      This is practically a Vixion or T35 maxed out engine from Yamaha.

      The 17 BHP's ensures you to get the best of both worlds, it ensures that you get a feeling of Superbike and a Splendour (FE!!).
      Awsome top whack plus a good fuel efficiency, Indian mass mentality you see!. And if you really want to compete on acceleration then match Torque specs and not the BHP specs.
      Oh! Okay. Thanks for the tip.

      Originally posted by Shanz View Post
      See! I knew ur a pathetic HH lover..
      Though I had loved the CBZ AND CBZ STAR, my all time favo machine which I adore even now, and I would definetly buy a CBZ STAR if I found one in good condition.
      you cant imagine what i'd pay to get a CBZ in good condition.


      Originally posted by Shanz View Post
      It will take maximum of two days to get used to the Riding Posture.
      Dude! Its a SUPERBIKE REPLICA, what do you expect from it? A lether cushioned Cruiser seat on R1 which is good enuf for midway sleeping naps??
      And every day I ride at least 5kms in buisiest of traffics constantly in first gear and below 10kmph, but after 2nd day of ownership I never had problems in this sort of helluwa traffic jams!

      Shanz
      I dont expect an overstuffed leather couch, but i'm worried about my back. Its already a bit delicate from riding a suspensionless bike on chennai roads (Where there are actual roads. Most of the time it feels like a dirt track). Though i'm shooting my mouth off, because i've never ridden a R15, i've heard a lot of comments about discomfort in heavy traffic. And half of my riding time will be in heavy traffic.

      If i ain't being indiscreet, what's your height?

      And thanks for your replies. I think you are starting to convert me from the ZMR to the R15.
      Last edited by Udayakiran; 11-17-2009, 04:55 PM.

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      • #33
        hey guys...i have a query - r15 has a 150cc engine right ???...now wont a 150cc engine strain itself and loose the steam when like riding hard on highways (long fast stints)...although its got 6speed gear box & is oil-cooled...still a 150cc has got a limit to its potential...

        could any of the r15 owners throw some light ???

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        • #34
          Originally posted by REVZ RACING View Post
          hey guys...i have a query - r15 has a 150cc engine right ???...now wont a 150cc engine strain itself and loose the steam when like riding hard on highways (long fast stints)...although its got 6speed gear box & is oil-cooled...still a 150cc has got a limit to its potential...

          could any of the r15 owners throw some light ???
          Not even 150 cc engine. 149.8cc if Im not wrong..

          Unfortunately, you are wrong. Its not oil cooled. It has liquid cooling (coolant + water running around the engine in a jacket, and then to radiator) as opposed to oil cooled (the engine oil is cooled, it's not a complete cooling of the engine) I think liquid cooling is better than oil cooled in all respects.

          Due to this very fact, engine performance is not likely to go down unless you really rev it senseless on the track (I'm only guessing here, it may not go down at all unless it runs out of coolant!). So, any other bike would probably lose 'steam' while the r15 will be at its peak, all throughout.

          Tell me which 150cc engine on a stock bike gives u 17bhp. Power to weight ratio is what this bike gains huge points on.

          I have ridden this bike on highways though not extensively. Suffice to say, it has never let me down, always upto my expectations and more, at EVERY instant (no fall in engine performance, is one point). The confidence it gives is amazing.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by REVZ RACING View Post
            hey guys...i have a query - r15 has a 150cc engine right ???...now wont a 150cc engine strain itself and loose the steam when like riding hard on highways (long fast stints)...although its got 6speed gear box & is oil-cooled...still a 150cc has got a limit to its potential...

            could any of the r15 owners throw some light ???
            115kmph@8000rpm and smoothest motorcycle i have owned and ridden(my cousin has a P-220 fi)

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            • #36
              @udayakiran
              so did u get your bike ..me too in same dilema..what bike to buy.....??
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Udayakiran View Post
                Oh!
                If i ain't being indiscreet, what's your height?

                And thanks for your replies. I think you are starting to convert me from the ZMR to the R15.
                I am 5.8'' long..
                I know thats not a good height to boast off on forums!

                Dude..
                I seriously suggest you to have a test ride of all the bikes ur considering!
                And then decide which machine had chosen you.

                Shanz
                <Posted via Mobile>

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Udayakiran View Post
                  Hi, I'll be buying a new bike in the next 2-3 weeks. Hoping for some advice.
                  My 7 year old RE Machismo is starting to give up on me due to driving in heavy city traffic. And with my new job, I don't have enough time to take care of it. My heart breaks to see it suffering. I spent almost 10K to get it back to shape and a month later, it was worse than before, with a bevy of new problems. So I finally hardened my heart and decided to sell it and get a new bike.
                  Now, I'm faced with a problem. deciding between the r15,zmr, zma-r and the unicorn. For the next 2 months at least, i wont be going on any tours. My bike's only use would be the race to office and back, racing against time. My friends are suggesting the unicorn because it gives comparatively good mileage and is cheaper. But it is too common. I've always loved the power and the looks people give when they see the Machismo.
                  I considered the zma-r due to its price.
                  The r15 is good, but it looks too small and its thin tires r a great turn off.
                  I love the zmr and I'm heavily biased towards it. But my friends r against it due to its price and mileage.
                  I'm not sure about the lighter 150cc bikes, because i feel exposed and uncomfortable on them. They feel like bicycles with abnormally powered engines.
                  I'm dead-set against the Pulsars. I don't know why, but it may be because they are too common. Every wannabe and even the not-wannabes has a pulsar.
                  And now for the personal info:
                  I am 5 ft 7 inches tall. I weigh 64 kgs. I'm not very muscular. I drive a bit fast, though I'm not the kind with a death wish. I learnt riding on the Machismo and i have little experience with other bikes. (Thats the reason for insecure feeling on lighter bikes.) I've been riding for almost 6 months now. I had a bad riding style because i learnt riding all alone, but i feel it is better now. I work in HCL BPO and a 1+ lakh bike will burn a big hole in my pocket. *sigh* But then, its all for the love of riding.
                  I request u guys to help me out. Maybe a little nudge towards the zmr, or a huge pull away from it.

                  Hi udayakiran,
                  I guss by now you have got a lot of options, well u can go for zma-r, R15, Fz16. Zmr, by the reviews the bike looks cool but we still dont know the performance on along run since its preety new. i own a fz16 and the performance is thrilling. If ur buying fz16 and looking for more bhp u can go for a daytona kit which is fitted by yamaha motors. Zma-r is all in 1 bike.....

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by raman sriharsha View Post
                    @udayakiran
                    so did u get your bike ..me too in same dilema..what bike to buy.....??
                    Nope. Cant find enough time to even go on a test drive. Got work till Saturday, so i guess i'll be able to go only on Sunday. Looking for every opportunity to scrape off some time and go on a TD.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Shanz View Post
                      I am 5.8'' long..
                      I know thats not a good height to boast off on forums!

                      Dude..
                      I seriously suggest you to have a test ride of all the bikes ur considering!
                      And then decide which machine had chosen you.

                      Shanz
                      <Posted via Mobile>
                      Na. I'm 5'7". So i guess my riding experience will be pretty similar to yours.

                      I should go on a TD. But its getting postponed every day. Looks like i'll be able to go only on Sunday.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rajeshFZ View Post
                        Hi udayakiran,
                        I guss by now you have got a lot of options, well u can go for zma-r, R15, Fz16. Zmr, by the reviews the bike looks cool but we still dont know the performance on along run since its preety new. i own a fz16 and the performance is thrilling. If ur buying fz16 and looking for more bhp u can go for a daytona kit which is fitted by yamaha motors. Zma-r is all in 1 bike.....
                        Hmmm... 2 of my friends are strongly suggesting FZ16. I should try TDing it too.

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                        • #42
                          By the time the R15's engine overheats, others would have exploded.
                          Liquid cooled engine, forged aluminium piston.
                          Read this- It talks about heat management well: Products | India Yamaha Motor Pvt. Ltd.

                          That was theoretical, now lemme talk practically. I have done a fair bit of touring on this bike. I rode it for 350kms.at 120-130kmph on full throttle. There was no overheating. No false claims on that one, ask other owners in the thread.

                          The link type mono suspension is something that is not good for a bad back, as it becomes more&more rigid according to the load on the swingarm. It rebounds with lot of force on bad roads, though I'm in love with it because thats what provides stability on corners.
                          I would rate the ZMR gas type dual suspension better for your back.
                          Tech wise nothing comes close to R15.
                          Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                          • #43
                            Hi udayakiran, after reading your confusion between the bikes all i have to say is R15 is a good bike as that bike has bought a revolution but the only problem on which yamaha looses is after sales service, which is really a pain and here hero honda is winner, my friends who have oldie bikes like Libero, G5 and those who have FZ and R15 all have the same complaints that after sales service is too bad and they charge you for anything and majority of them has to get fixed their problematic issues outside with a local mechanic, so think that

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                            • #44
                              I'd strongly recommend the r15 any day.Its got all, good average and good power,just what the doc ordered.
                              Socha Toh Locha.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                                By the time the R15's engine overheats, others would have exploded.
                                Couldn't resist from appreciating this lovely put-up sentence

                                @ the thread starter, u just need to go blindly and pick an R15, might be u can just unfold ur eyes to choose a color though!!!
                                Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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