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**Aryan** · 11-05-2009, 12:16 PM

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**Thunder** · 11-05-2009, 12:21 PM

Yes Though Fazer and RTR 160 falls in same platform they are different in certain norms

Both are better Accelerating bikes but to some extent RTR gets the Coin

RTR will give better milleage that Fazer
RTR costs lesser than Fazer even FZ
You get a good Console with RTR where Fazers is not that much Audible

Have a test drive and come to a conclusion
If i were you i will blindly go to RTR........

**smoker n doper** · 11-05-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by pradeepkumardev View Post

Hello friends,

This is my 2nd post regarding 'What bike' (Since i am confused).

I am planning to take my first bike. Considered Fazer and Apache RTR fi 160. Read my post on both bikes in xbhp and across internet and finally confused.

But any cost i want to book my first ever bike within this week. I hope you guys help me.

I am totally impressed with Fazer. Almost every aspect. But little worried about city ride handling and mileage, in fact major factor making me thinking about Apache RTR 160 FI.

Please help me taking by bike.

Thanks In advance,
Pradeep

please give some details about yourself and your needs ...

like you will be riding inside city only or you will be touring on it or you will take it on tracks .... , FE , etc etc ....

it will be good for you if we suggest after knowing your needs .

but still if you want to compare these two bikes ....
they both are good ....
RTR FI : faster , meaner , good FE , VFM bike....
but there are vibes present in it @ 60 to 70 km\hr....

FAZER : very stylish , tourqey , nice handler , comfortable .
but its IMHO overpriced as its a 150 cc machine...., less FE.

if you need looks with comfort and a little bit performance go for fazer... and if you are looking for a VFM bike go for apache ....

at the end of the day they both are good machines and will not dissappoint you ....

one simple question why you didnt include P220....?

its a great VFM machine....

neways ,
all the best

**k2cool_87** · 11-05-2009, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by pradeepkumardev View Post

Hello friends,

This is my 2nd post regarding 'What bike' (Since i am confused).

I am planning to take my first bike. Considered Fazer and Apache RTR fi 160. Read my post on both bikes in xbhp and across internet and finally confused.

But any cost i want to book my first ever bike within this week. I hope you guys help me.

I am totally impressed with Fazer. Almost every aspect. But little worried about city ride handling and mileage, in fact major factor making me thinking about Apache RTR 160 FI.

Please help me taking by bike.

Thanks In advance,
Pradeep

Dude....I am a owner of the fz16(ur typical fazer without the front faring) and i assure u the fazer is nothin but pure pleasure...the mileage will let u down and if you think mileage is ur top priority then you should stay away from it but in terms of comfort and style the fazer is a million miles in front of the apache....the wide handle bars and the upright seating of the fazer are amazing in traffic and provide the ability to zip through even the worst of jams....the torque that this bike provides is incomparable too...fast zipppy and light(full body made of fiber and not metal even the fuel tank) are the best adjectives to describe the bike...Even the digital console which many have described as childish seems to grow on u after a while....at least in my opinion....I test drove both these bikes a month back when i was goin to make my decision and fz16(couldn't afford the fazer) was miles ahead of the competition....

So its all up to ur preferences really but i would like to suggest the fazer....

**men_in_jean** · 11-05-2009, 01:13 PM

Dude, if you want a zip thru traffic, good torque bike then APACHE is much better than the FZ. I am not sure when the fibre body became an advantage over metal tanks??

one my friend had a fall on his FZ16 and because of the lack of crankbar(a must required safety feature) his leg the bike and was heavily damaged.. and the tank cud not withstand that fall.. the guy who hit him in another bike also had similar fall with just a dent on his tank,and a scratched crankbar.

The only prob with RTR would be the vibrations after an year or so. If you can live that then I think that would be the better option for you.

**krishnan6015** · 11-05-2009, 01:41 PM

Dude, let us know it is city or touring ?? For city you can go ahead and pick RTR FI. Mileage (~52 km/l mine), power, style, Rear Disc, Vibrations wl be there between 60-65km/hr but you wl feel mean power at that time

. When you twist the throttle you can sense the rush , I have never felt in any of the bike except RX100.

if you want pleasure and riding comfort then go for FAZER. (I do think 82 K is much higher for 150CC bike. ) For 82K you can even go for P220

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**chauhan_saurabh** · 11-05-2009, 01:44 PM

@Thread starter

Though your usages are unclear but if you just want to compare Fazer and RTR FI, then it would look like:

Fazer:
+ve - one of the best looks, greate torque, very stable and good handler, comfortable
-ve - mileage, costly (specially Fazer is over priced even if compared with cousin FZ16)

RTR FI:
+ve - Great handler, fast(than above one), exhaust note (the best in the category sp. FI one), better mileage and better VFM
-ve: Viberation, little too much aggressive seating(read sportier)

Personally, I just love RTR over Fazer as it is overall second best VFM bike(after new P220).

**Shreeni0403** · 11-05-2009, 04:37 PM

IF YOU HAVE MONEY FOR FAZER THEN BLINDLY PICK A ZMA-R or P220.

**kaynmantis** · 11-05-2009, 04:50 PM

Between the two, I would easily choose Fazer.
My personal view: (Note Im not much into VFM. What a product offers is more important than VFM, unless of course its double the price.)

Styling = Fazer
Engineering = Fazer
Technology = same points as RTR-FI has FI whereas in other areas Fazer leads
FE = RTR
Performance = RTR

Yes, my own statistics shows a draw. Why I chose Fazer is because I would gladly trade "Bad Vibration" of RTR for "Bad FE" of Fazer. I simply cannot tolerate unrefinement.

**Binoy** · 11-05-2009, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post

IF YOU HAVE MONEY FOR FAZER THEN BLINDLY PICK A ZMA-R or P220.

+1 to that... there was no fazer at the time when i bought my FZ16, even if it was there i will not go for fazer, coz in my opinion fazer is way too overpriced... and Apache i don't like the bike that much...

if u have that much moolah... jus go for the ZMA man or a P220... i am not confusing u... jus my opinion...

**coolboy007** · 11-05-2009, 05:14 PM

@ Pradeepkumardev

Both bikes have their pros and cons bro.
Apache is a nice pocket rocket, dont know about the FI but 180 has amazing acceleration. There are vibrations and niggles in the bike but the handling and power makes up for most of it. If TVS service is good in your city, Apache is a good choice.

For Fazer, i dont like the bike personally. Had a TD and wasnt convinced at all. If you are not those who want "quick acceleration" whatever speed you are on then you can go for Fazer too.
Handling is very good, Looks are a head turner but when it comes to engine- it lacks the dum. 14 bhp isnt enough for a heavy bike like a Fazer.
Find FZ 16 much better than it.
Resale value for both bikes is avg.

I own 6 day old P220, selected after many TD's of various bikes. Why dont you consider 220 or ZMA-R. When you can plonk in so much money for a Fazer both Zma nd P220 deserve a dekho.

**k2cool_87** · 11-05-2009, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by coolboy007 View Post

Handling is very good, Looks are a head turner but when it comes to engine- it lacks the dum. 14 bhp isnt enough for a heavy bike like a Fazer.

dude....if fazer is heavy then pulsar must feel like a boulder to u???
all of the fazer is fiber and weighs less than the pulsar by a ton,..

**srini** · 11-05-2009, 05:22 PM

as the others suggested here,if you are looking at the fazer,you ought to give P220 and ZMA-R a try...btw,coming back to the topic,I feel Apache RTR-fi would be a better buy of the two

**coolboy007** · 11-05-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by k2cool_87 View Post

dude....if fazer is heavy then pulsar must feel like a boulder to u???
all of the fazer is fiber and weighs less than the pulsar by a ton,..

Yeah 220 is indeed like a boulder sometimes in city

at gross weight of 282 kgs with metal everywhere.

I was talking of power to weight ratio, its lower than FZ 16 atleast. The added weight of the front fairing would only harm performance figures.
If one is not too considered about performance, Fazer is a nice choice, specially for those who demand attention. Its a head turner in blue and red color.

I would say if you dont wanna consider 220 or a Zma, then Apache is a better choice of the two.

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