Buddy, a simple "NO" to Fazer.......


You have much better bikes you can buy at that price point....

If et all Yamaha is what you are looking at, Go for either of the FZs.......!

All the best

with the xtra 10kgs,fazer's performance will only be inferior to FZ,so a big no to it!

pick bet. the FZ and RTR!

Bro Fazer is 4 kgs heavier than FZ...

141kgs for Fazer and 137kgs for FZ

Let me clarify the things .. Fazer is an awesome bike .. Reliability and comfort is much much more than RTR FI anyday . but why all say dont take Fazer? Reason :Price. If Fazer was coming with same price as RTR FI without any doubt Fazer . But with the present price taking Fazer is not a wise option because for the same money you will get Karizma-R or Pulsor 220 . Take any of these according to your taste and likings.
DOnt worry about mileage there wont be much difference in mileage between fazer and these machines. Performance vice you cannot even compare fazer with these two machines. that much difference in performance. SO think well before makign a choice . As a bike fazer ia well and good better than RTR Fi in many aspects but you can buy much better bikes for the price you are paying for fazer.


Even after realizing this if you want fazer just go and take it . if you dont mind the price tag it is a very good machine and you wil not repent ..

^^ i would disagree, because even if you end up paying more for the fazer, it is better built and well put together as compared to other bikes. So reliability, life of the bike, performance, etc everything will last longer. If these factors make sense to someone, they will opt for the Fazer, otherwise in all other aspects like acceleration, top speed, mileage etc, the RTR is better.

''Be the DIFFERENT,feel the DIFFERENCE,go for FAZER and u wont feel LOSER''
As far as mileage is concerned, i've heard the owners of fazer ,in fz thread,claiming 40-45kmpl,which is not bad considering ur other choice,which will add up only a few more to those figures....
And for those wanting u to go for other bikes,agree that those machines are also good,but as u have already shortlisted ur two means, u did do a bit of survey and those are really good bikes(fazer n apache), after all every choice shouldnt alwayz end up at 220 or 225cc's......... The good low torque advantage of fazer will really match up ur city concsious ride and as i earlier said u wont feel like a loser buying this product with all those single pennys, which also happens to be your first bike....
Good luck there;-)) do make an informed choice
CHEERS..

sry...

Fazer offeres relaibily and perfromance that will last longer . But all these thigns are true if you compare it with RTR . If a bike offeres more relaibility
i will go for it even though it is a little bit more costly but here the point is that with almost same money you spent on fazer you can get an equally reliable bike that will outperfrom fazer in almost all the aspect. (i am not talkign about the looks as it differes form person to person ). Karizma-R is a very relaible bike that will perfrom far better than Fazer . it is priced almost same as fazer (soem 2k difference).

SO my point is that Fazer is offcourse a very relaible , beutiful , bike that has a very good perfromance (After all it is a yamaha) . As a city bike i cannot point any negative ponts in fazer. BUt for the same price you can buy something that has more all round capabilities. Take a fazer to highway and ride it it will be out of breath quicky . i have take it to highway and i can clearly say after 80 it is strugglign to accelarate.
meanwhile Karizma will perfrom flawlessly in highways as well as in city packed with a lot of power and a relaible engine.

Please note that i am not askgin the thread starter to go for a purticular bike. as i told earlier as a bike i love fazer but i just want to point out the thread starter that these much options are availbale for the money you spent so that he wouldnt have to repent on the decision he made later due to lack of knowledge about the options he has .

@thread starter ,

Now you know the buying power of the money you have.

(you can buy any of the RTR , Fazer , p220 and ZMA with the money you have)

Now you know where fazer stand infront of the p220 and ZMA in terms of perfromance

Now after knwing all these things if you still shortlist only Fazer and RTR
i will suggest you go and take Fazer. No doubt it is much more relaible and comfortable than RTR and a descent performer till 100.

@thread starter : post your decision dude .....

i guess he is busy test riding fazer ......
if you are done with the TD of fazer just head to a nearby pbk showroom or a HH showroom and TD a P220 or a ZMA-R ....

you have a lot of power[money] now .....make a wise decision ... else you will lack power [bhp] in the end

all the best ... once again .... god bless you ...

I have a question in my mind, As I read here and there....

Sorry don't want to start another thread for it,

Is that Fazer/FZ gives true 45 kmpl ?

Or Is it same the as Karizma-R ?

Please enlighten some one....

you have not mentioned here what kind of rider you are is it a city or the one who loves long rides, if you want a bike to perform both the places and stay with you for long time than go for karizma R.

Fazer and Fz will give you a mileage 38-42 .
It has two extremes. Three of my frineds have Fz .One is gettign 35-38
and the other one told me that he got 42-44 , The third owner is stil confused about the mileage () since it is varying to a great extend accordign to his rididng styel.
So frankly the mileage can go up to 44. you can expect 40 on an average.


Regarding karizma-R it will give 35 in city , 40-42 in Highway .
But if you ride above 100 for long time continously it will give 28-30.

Thanks for replying....

So sum it up...Is it not worth to go Karizma-R instead of FZ/Fazer in the millage criteria if someone ready to sacrifice Tubeless Tyre & International naked looks (which I heard not so effective in rainy days when the water splash hit the rider & pillion too) ?

Is the 35 city & 40 highway can achieved by normal fuel in Karizma-R or need to use the Speed/Extra Premium ?

Dude which ever bike your ride, you need to ride it smoothly, All depends on your riding style. Please see the below thread if you want to improve the mileage .



I dont think Speed/Extra premium will be giving much difference,may be 1 or 2km/ltr. when ridden smoothly my FI gives mileage more than 50 km/ltr (normal un-leaded) . If I rip the bike 45-50km/ltr. Mostly depends on how you ride.

i cannot think of myself spending 82k on fazer when the market offers many better performing bikes at the same price. according to me, 82k for an under performing bike (compared to bikes in that range) is a worthless investment .
PS: all the things are my personal views....