However, by having briefings and pre-sessions on safety, explaining repercussions of a crash, having strict policing on hooliganism are just some of the methods I think that should be implemented to curb extreme adrenaline junkie behaviour. I am not saying Yamaha did it or didn't do it - I wasn't there to witness it, but going by most xBhpians account here, they should have been better prepared.
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One of the intentions to hold such events is to promote safety, along with the fun factor the event brings in. Crashes are inevitable in such events, even with the safety pre-cautions. It just takes one 'bad' rider among the whole bunch.
However, by having briefings and pre-sessions on safety, explaining repercussions of a crash, having strict policing on hooliganism are just some of the methods I think that should be implemented to curb extreme adrenaline junkie behaviour. I am not saying Yamaha did it or didn't do it - I wasn't there to witness it, but going by most xBhpians account here, they should have been better prepared.DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVe
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Originally posted by Synn View PostOk guys, calm down. I have a message from Yamaha india itself that I want to convey to you all:
First up, one thing is very simple. It is not up to Yamaha to provide adequate safety gear for participants. When one buys a hundred thousand rupee motorcycle, one should have the common sense to wear at least a helmet and proper footwear to a competitive event. Hell, one should wear it ANY TIME they go for a ride! Refer to my rant in Hard Torque for my personal thoughts on this.
Secondly, Yamaha motors neither endorses or supports any talk that encourages accidents or anything of that sort. They are providing a platform for riders to enjoy themselves, but they are not in a position to police each and every guy present and stop them from making asses out of themselves. Seriously, how exactly does one find fault with YMIL for the "P220 guy" or the "CBZ guy"?
No public even in this world can be a success without the proper attitude from the people that take part in it. The organizers can guide them, but like I said before, they can't police them. We're all adults and we should know better than endangering others' lives in such an environment.
I will beg to differ here. When Castrol Power Hunt was organized in Delhi (infact everywhere) there were repeated announcements by the organizers that no stunting or riding without proper gear would be allowed.
Some were warned, some were disqualified
I understand that public needs to be more mature but one thing which needs to be understand that Racing culture here is young & very immature. Lack of proper racetrack & awareness makes it more disturbing. Just to create a responsible Company image I think Yamaha should have provided little bit of guidance. If I am not wrong they have charged some participation fee too.
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Old fox, RX 100: I see reason in your views, yes. But as mentioned before, the only bikes allowed into the event were yamahas. Say, how are the hooligans playing russian roulette with their P220s and CBZs Yamaha's responsibility?
I will concede one point. Good medical facilities and emergency care is a must at any competitive sporting event. Hopefully, upcoming iterations would be better off in this regard.Last edited by Synn; 03-23-2009, 10:44 PM.
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I wasn't there. But just pointed out my views after listening & reading. If those hooliganism were allowed inside the premise / racetrack then it is Yamaha's responsibility. If it were outside on the road then absolutely not Yamaha's responsibility.
But a u turn at the end of the track!!!
Whatever. They could have managed it bit better. Afterall its YAMAHA. Rossi & other greats are associated with it
I am also a Yamaha fan. I own a P220 but would any day trade it for an R1. Anyone interested??




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I do not disagree. Such events are yet a novelty in India and there definitely is room for improvement. So why not, as responsible riders, we do something constructive about it?They could have managed it bit better.
Anyone who has issues with the event, kindly talk about how it could have been done better. What, in your opinion would have made a difference. Let's make an effort to ensure that future events raise the bar, shall we?
I can assure you, Yamaha is keeping an eye on this thread and your input WILL be noted.
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An eye should have been kept out for hooliganism. That should have strictly been done away with. By hooliganism, I don't only mean any kind of stunts, but also general hooplah.
Also, if the participants were not wearing proper riding gear(s), they should NOT have been allowed to participate in the particular event (track race, drag, slow race, etc.) in the first place. No use letting them participate, crash and then subsequently trying in vein to cover up the mishaps by saying it was not YAMAHA's responsibility checking each and every owner's/ participant's riding gear/ safety gear. No safety gear, no participation. Period.
Also, I hear the track had dust, etc. in it. That could have been atleast cleared out before the event started.
These are just SOME of the ground level things that ANY company is expected to comply with before even thinking of organizing an event of this magnitude! Also, I would love to know did they have any kind of medics standing by, to take care of those who crashed? Forget medics, was there any kind of first-aid treatment provided to the ones who got themselves injured because of lack of any kind of safety gear and also the track? I doubt.:)
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Just sharing one observation.
I was at JM Motors, Noida yesterday due to some UNFORTUNATE incident. Wont talk about it here. Will post it on FZ16 section
Most of the R15 owners there who visited (aroung 85% or may be more) were having the DHAMAKA SALE types helmet.
100,000 ka Bike kharid saktey ho but helmet 300 wala
Ok some were the FUDDU heroes types. Helmet 300 wala & then again not wearing coz obv their Hairstyle will get disturbed and which gal will fall in for them, huh tell me???? Style salo... tum samjhogey kya??? tum saley duffer bikers
And it goes for all bike owners. Not particularly YamahaLast edited by rx100.7050; 03-23-2009, 11:40 PM."HASTA LA VICTORIA, SIEMPRE !" - Chesigpic
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Hmmm it was abusive but was censored version.Originally posted by Aryan View PostModerator Message
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Sorry. but now edited"HASTA LA VICTORIA, SIEMPRE !" - Chesigpic
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http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...sary-trip.html
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...adventure.html
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...j-monsoon.html
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this is bad yar its not the riding rule a biker must follow the rules i agree with u kunjal, it is not a challenge ye to 1 jabardasti ka event tha bas leave itOriginally posted by kunjalsingh View Postthis was the worst event i had ever attended.
Circuit racing:- ohh my god the track was full of dust and gravels...
Drag :- After 200mtrs. U turn..
The guy who won the circuit race was in the Drag race also with me. He was over confident and he slipped off on the U turn due to which i missed 1st place.The riders dnt even know about safe riding circuit racing etc.,they just want to win the race at any cost.They were overtaking at sharp turns which leads to accidents and some of them hitted other riders also on the track.
A guy stood 1st in the Drag heat run and after completion he was applying breaks suddenly the rider behind him hitted him at a speed of around 70km/hr..The management was at its worst during the event.
You guys wont believe that most of accidents were like the same...DONT COUNT MY POSTS COUNT MY KILOMETERS
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I am a big time Yamaha Fan.... but yes when we all went to the event their are few things which could have been done to make it more exciting and happening.......
1. Yamaha should have provided the protected gears to all the participants lets say they could have charged 200rs or max 500rs more from the participants...
2. The circuit was quite dusty and yes with lot of falls happening, many riders were even going off the dedicated track to win, which is dangerous so the circuit could have been more better.... like without dust or if dusty no sharp turns....
3. should have strict policing of the riders once inside the premises. As where we all were sitting at the customer are i saw couple of rideres doing wheelies which was not safe.
4. If yamaha couldnt provide the gears it should have displayed very carefully "PARTICIPANTS TO WEAR THEIR OWN RIDING GEARS WITHOUT WHICH THEY WOULD BE QISQUALIFIED"
Well their was many things which went wrong in this event..... but lets see to the positive side... especially me being a yamaha fan, I think in last 10yrs I havent seen Yamaha roaring to this level which has happened since the launch of R15.
Now the point which needs to be put into the notice of the riders are that if you buying a vehicle which can zooommm off, u gotta wear proper gears tooo for it.... like LP who was geared and which made us all feel good about it.... and the riders should concentrate on the knowledge of safe riding as well.....
well lets try and put these points to yamaha if we can, so that next time Yamaha can do a more better than this
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Just a small contribution from my side!
as i did participate, i was very much impressed by the actual interest of yamaha in promoting biking as said by kirosh these kind'a events has already happened in the recent past also, and that was a real success..
i am happy to see yamaha roaring this high to promote biking in the city and NCR, As said by all where there are some + points there are some -ve also..
yamaha did do such event they took such good initiative and also 100/- participation they could have provided some protective riding gears,people were riding bare hands,in floaters, with out jackets..some were'nt even in full pants..
and the people who were unable to participate as people with only yamaha product were allowed to participate they started stunting outside the arena..
i cud see a couple of them..and if am not wrong the photographer ADDY might have some snaps!
moving onto the topic:
it started with a FZ-16 circuit race,which eneded very wel..with some accidents and one major hit to one of x-Yamaha Professional rider,he broke his left arm and now woud be operated!
the track was fine every cut was made properly and the people were shown the track also before they head towards hitting it,
but,t,t,,,the track was very very dusty and had looose gravel on it..
it was very diifficult to manuever the bike ate corner's..
as i hit it...Slow rinding again,me and kunjal did wonders i finished on 23 secs and kunjal on 22!! which was not very good but ya...OK!!i started from the 5th position and maintained it for the 1st lap,in the second i overtook..2people to be on the 3rd position and then the person at the 2nd postion got himself into a tyre that was a marker of the track and lost some speed,over took him there in the 1st lap only..then maintained the 2nd postion throughout the 2nd lap and 3rd lap,just at the end of 3rd lap (as i was noticing the rider in front of me,he had his left hander very strong but had a loose hand on right),taking the opprtunity when he slowed down on the right hander i honked the horn he got scared and left the cut for me..
,and then i took the lead for next 15seconds and finsihed the race at 1st position...
then came the drag,which after 200mtrs there was a U-Turn
.ya u heard it right a U-Turn in a drag!!
by the time i braked there it was all fine when i relaunched te vehicle due to dust and gravel on the road the bike gave full torque out but cud not grab the road so the wheel spinned and i crashed i left the bike as soon i got to knwo that i am going to fall now..i left it! so no injury to me also because of riding gear's,bike although got some damage which was repaired instantly!!
That was the biggest thing that lacked there when i saw the event at yamaha!Originally posted by Old Fox View PostDuring the Castrol Passion hunt, both xBhp and Castrol have almost been paranoid about putting up a show that does not compromise on the safety of the participating riders. Even for riding events focussed primarily on slow-speed biking control, we have ensured the availability of riding gear, the stress on a valid driving license, shoes/boots covering the feet and repeated announcements about stunts NOT being allowed inside the competetion area. A couple of participants riding fast inside the field and/or indulging in stunts have even been summarily been disqualified from participating. All this has contributed to the six events so far coming through with a clean safety record.
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^^ Agreed!! but there should have been a crowd management sort of thing!Originally posted by Synn View PostNo public even in this world can be a success without the proper attitude from the people that take part in it. The organizers can guide them, but like I said before, they can't police them. We're all adults and we should know better than endangering others' lives in such an environment.
They Should Actualy!!Originally posted by Synn View PostI can assure you, Yamaha is keeping an eye on this thread and your input WILL be noted.

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Special thanks to MJ1984 and Saaki for providing the vehicles to particiapte!Last edited by L.P.; 03-24-2009, 12:51 PM." Nothing Z Forever,Except D Change "
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LP, your wish has been granted! I have an update from Yamaha.
Let me summarise the feedback in my own words:
There in fact, were two ambulances provided for providing aid to the injured. So let's get that out of the way.
The hooligans who were endangering others were not allowed inside the premises(Since they were on bikes of other makes) and were showing off outside the gates. Now honestly, what more can Yamaha do to prevent such ill-minded individuals than request them to stop?
During registration, it was clearly mentioned to all participants that hlemets and other safety gear is a must. As intelligent adults, it is expected of the riders to understand that motorsports have a risk factor involved.
The track surface was cleaned prior to the event, but the dust accumulated again. It was either canceling the event or going ahead and doing it.They chose to do the latter in the best interest of all those who had traveled to the venue to be a part of it.
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All that said, Yamaha HAS taken note of the positive suggestions you guys have given and has assured me that these changes WILL be implemented from the next time onwards.
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Good To hear That!!Originally posted by Synn View PostLP, your wish has been granted! I have an update from Yamaha.
Let me summarise the feedback in my own words:
There in fact, were two ambulances provided for providing aid to the injured. So let's get that out of the way.
The hooligans who were endangering others were not allowed inside the premises(Since they were on bikes of other makes) and were showing off outside the gates. Now honestly, what more can Yamaha do to prevent such ill-minded individuals than request them to stop?
During registration, it was clearly mentioned to all participants that hlemets and other safety gear is a must. As intelligent adults, it is expected of the riders to understand that motorsports have a risk factor involved.
The track surface was cleaned prior to the event, but the dust accumulated again. It was either canceling the event or going ahead and doing it.They chose to do the latter in the best interest of all those who had traveled to the venue to be a part of it.
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All that said, Yamaha HAS taken note of the positive suggestions you guys have given and has assured me that these changes WILL be implemented from the next time onwards.

Did they say anything about the U-Turn in the DRAG..

i still cud not figure out that stupidity
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