General SBK Discussion Thread

[stewarch]

How much did this solution cost him?

If I remember I paid 250 pounds sterling plus import tax. I can send you the contact details on Monday once I am bnack in office. If you have NO key this isthe most effective solution.

[Prakrit Takkar]

Had recent problem with 600RR which has the HISS. Owner lost his one and only key. Replacing direct from Honda is EXPENSIVE. Quickest option was to replace with ECU with new ECU which had HISS disabled. We then had a key cut to fit the barrel. HISS is now disabled but the alarm light continues to flash giving impression that HISS is still enabled. A quick, cheap and effective solution.

How much did this solution cost him?

[RanjithMN]

Are you asking about legal bikes or otherwise? Or in general?

im asking abt legal bikes...

[stewarch]

Yeah the 954RRs come with what's called a H.I.S.S or the Honda Immobiliser Security System.. Not sure if the 929s before them had it. So if you lose the key for a 954 which has it, then you need to buy a key from Honda which has a chip embedded in it, blank and ready to program itself to the system.

This programming is a simple 2 min job (at least on the R1). Not sure about the 954, but I'm sure it's similarly quick.

Had recent problem with 600RR which has the HISS. Owner lost his one and only key. Replacing direct from Honda is EXPENSIVE. Quickest option was to replace with ECU with new ECU which had HISS disabled. We then had a key cut to fit the barrel. HISS is now disabled but the alarm light continues to flash giving impression that HISS is still enabled. A quick, cheap and effective solution.

[whizzkid_ram]

Have a look at this PDF.

[csgup1]

The 1098 R in fact has a bored out 1198 engine. It is in a higher state of tune than your normal 1198 current engine as well so produces more power along with getting after market traction control, set of race pipes, etc etc

As for losing the keys. Most bikes these days come with a master key . if you lose that key then you need to order another ECU or you cant programme normal blank keys.

[suren]

The prime reason for 1098R's production is homologation of the bike, for racing in SBk Championship. It's lighter and faster, by a small margin.

Do your google once again and know the real difference ! S and R are worlds apart ! Dont post wrong info ! And 1098r was homologated for 2008 ! Now they race with the 1198 !

[rossiter]

are there any aftermarket solutions available coz i don't thing HMSI would be helping with the models officially not available

Sorry man.. you'll have to get in touch with some of the SBK mechanics for this. I'm sure they'll have a solution. Either way, if there's an HISS installed, even they will have to do the same programming thing. There is no workaround for this AFAIK.

[Samarth 619]

1098 is high 20's.......like 26 or 27. I believe they will also bring in 1198

The Desmodici is 50
The smallest monster (696) is 10.69

BTW: From what I read in some business mag... Ducati is building a factory near Pune, over the next 3-4 years. They will start making parts and also assembling CDK's there...... Let's see how the Japs react to that move.

The showroom in Mumbai was set to open Oct-Nov, Don't know if the other one in Delhi has opened?

Have a look at this PDF. It is authored by Ashish Chordia (I think he is CEO of Precision Motors)



And guys, 1098 has 2 models. The 1098S, and the special components equipped & costlier 1098R...
The prime reason for 1098R's production is homologation of the bike, for racing in SBk Championship. It's more powerful, by almost 20 PS. It's a 1200cc motor.

And secondly, about CKD Market news, I would love to know the source of information, just like nitrosatya. Because, the only CKD import I can remind myself is Ninja 250, and no other japs' bike.

[Prakrit Takkar]

are there any aftermarket solutions available coz i don't thing HMSI would be helping with the models officially not available

[rossiter]

Yeah the 954RRs come with what's called a H.I.S.S or the Honda Immobiliser Security System.. Not sure if the 929s before them had it. So if you lose the key for a 954 which has it, then you need to buy a key from Honda which has a chip embedded in it, blank and ready to program itself to the system.

This programming is a simple 2 min job (at least on the R1). Not sure about the 954, but I'm sure it's similarly quick.

[Prakrit Takkar]

Good question.

I have seen some bikes being turned on with locally made keys, e.g Hero Honda etc embossed on the head of the key. So, go figure!

now the questions turns a little bit more specific what about the CBR 954rr cause i am not aware if it has an immobiliser or not, could u shed some light on it?

[rossiter]

hey guys i have a Q to all the Super Bikers in India,sry if i missed it out somewhere.
How do you guys get the maintenance done on your bikes?
completely by your own or is there any SVC that does it?

thank you

Are you asking about legal bikes or otherwise? Or in general?

just a random thought passing my mind, what if you lose the keys to your SBK and i'm talking abt non official bikes?

Good question.

I have seen some bikes being turned on with locally made keys, e.g Hero Honda etc embossed on the head of the key. So, go figure!

[Prakrit Takkar]

just a random thought passing my mind, what if you lose the keys to your SBK and i'm talking abt non official bikes?

[RanjithMN]

hey guys i have a Q to all the Super Bikers in India,sry if i missed it out somewhere.
How do you guys get the maintenance done on your bikes?
completely by your own or is there any SVC that does it?

thank you