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**HarishK** · 11-10-2011, 10:39 PM

Is the End muffler in Joel's Exhaust same for all Bikes?

coz P220 and R15 resembles exactly the same.

**Sydney C** · 11-10-2011, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by HarishK View Post

Is the End muffler in Joel's Exhaust same for all Bikes?

coz P220 and R15 resembles exactly the same.

Am not really sure abt it..Must check with Joel

**jigar2speed** · 11-10-2011, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Sydney C View Post

Pic of my Bike will upload more later on today..

Bike seems to look cool, need to see the entire bike, please post the picture

**Sydney C** · 11-11-2011, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by jigar2speed View Post

Bike seems to look cool, need to see the entire bike, please post the picture

Sure will do it first thing tomorrow...

**shv18** · 11-11-2011, 01:35 AM

even i am witnessing rust in the end joint of the pipe and the place where the DB killer screws fit... any suggestions how to get rid of that??

**AashishS** · 11-11-2011, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Joel View Post

We have tried our best to build the best possible with mild steel.
We are planning to introduce stainless steel, but will come at a small premium due to the cost involved in making it. The joints need a silver paint touch to help it from spreading further. The chrome in itself, is well done. The joints need a touch up of silver paint which unfortunately we could not do in this first batch of the FZ pipes and I personally apologize on this. The next batch is being made and all these are addressed.

Thumbs Up...

The cost part is understandable..
"WE" (the customer) expect the Best from you!

Waiting eagerly!

**RanjithMN** · 11-11-2011, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

even i am witnessing rust in the end joint of the pipe and the place where the DB killer screws fit... any suggestions how to get rid of that??

Use WD40 and wipe it off with a cloth.So take SOME rust off.
@Joel
Will a layer of chrome again help reducing rusting in anyway?

Anyway one more pic of the FFE

**Duoscribe** · 11-11-2011, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post

Anyway one more pic of the FFE

looks awesome. neat click.

**Sydney C** · 11-11-2011, 09:39 PM

Paint Job

guys if i paint my bike a different color do i need to make any changes on the RC book or the smart Card...

**abhijitkn** · 11-11-2011, 10:18 PM

Any mileage figures after FFE installation?

**RanjithMN** · 11-12-2011, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by abhijitkn View Post

Any mileage figures after FFE installation?

Couldnt check last time,will do it with my current tank full

Originally posted by Sydney C View Post

guys if i paint my bike a different color do i need to make any changes on the RC book or the smart Card...

Yes you neeed the RTO approval and update your RC Book.But these things go unnoticed.I ran with my white FZ without probs for a year.

**abhijitkn** · 11-12-2011, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post

Couldnt check last time,will do it with my current tank full

Cool, I'm checking it too...but I believe it has dropped a bit.

**Lucky Luke** · 11-16-2011, 03:51 PM

Hi guys,

I am going for a bore-up kit + reworked head with bigger calves, bigger carb, and new exhaust.

Please do not take this as a critic to Joel, who appears undeniably as not only a very nice person (we have exchange about ten mails) but also a very good engineer, but the parts I will be using will not come from Race-concepts, mainly because I have decided to go for ....200cc.! Joel is obviously super-busy and does not appear to consider working on a 200cc. for this bike...at the moment.

So, for those who may be interested, the parts I am getting (and which can certainly be obtained in India too) are:
- 66m. TDR forged piston with accessories
- re-bored cylinder with centrifugally cast liner (made in Indonesia, but you can have superb parts made by COSMO )
- 29 and 34mm. high performance valves
- corresponding valve seats from COSMO
- BS 29 carburetor with manifold and rubber

The head will be ported here. I have extensive 3D and some flow analysis programs (CFD) and will "have fun" designing the ports and the combustion chamber. I do not mean I will do it better than Joel or even as well, but this will be an interesting research (just an application of the classics, actually: that's all I'm capable of doing!).

The exhaust will be another research subject, being essentially an enlargement of the stock one, without the catalytic converter of course, but keeping (?) a "midship" resonator, a similar aft muffler, and keeping the stock heat shield. This will never be as performing as a Free Flow, since sound attenuation systematically looses power, but I hope that the intricacies of resonance will not be too much of a headache!

Anyway: will let you know and share all the information here! That should be a hell of a bike, giving this great but underpowered bike the "muscle" it needs, and not only in the looks!

**abhijitkn** · 11-16-2011, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by abhijitkn View Post

Cool, I'm checking it too...but I believe it has dropped a bit.

Sorry, my bad. The fuel indicator was not giving the correct indication. With the mix of highway (80-95kmph) & city riding (70-80kmph) I got mileage of 45kmpl..not bad at all. Calculated with reserve to reserve method. Will be going for a long trip soon will calculate it again.

Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post

Hi guys,

I am going for a bore-up kit + reworked head with bigger calves, bigger carb, and new exhaust. I have decided to go for ....200cc.! Joel is obviously super-busy and does not appear to consider working on a 200cc.

So, for those who may be interested, the parts I am getting (and which can certainly be obtained in India too) are:
- 66m. TDR forged piston with accessories
- re-bored cylinder with centrifugally cast liner (made in Indonesia, but you can have superb parts made by COSMO )
- 29 and 34mm. high performance valves
- corresponding valve seats from COSMO
- BS 29 carburetor with manifold and rubber

The head will be ported here. I have extensive 3D and some flow analysis programs (CFD) and will "have fun" designing the ports and the combustion chamber. I do not mean I will do it better than Joel or even as well, but this will be an interesting research (just an application of the classics, actually: that's all I'm capable of doing!).

The exhaust will be another research subject, being essentially an enlargement of the stock one, without the catalytic converter of course, but keeping (?) a "midship" resonator, a similar aft muffler, and keeping the stock heat shield. This will never be as performing as a Free Flow, since sound attenuation systematically looses power, but I hope that the intricacies of resonance will not be too much of a headache!

Anyway: will let you know and share all the information here! That should be a hell of a bike, giving this great but underpowered bike the "muscle" it needs, and not only in the looks!

Hi Luke,
Sound good. But it will better if you start a different thread for this subject since it might be confusing for others (people going for RaceConcept upgrades) & also for the interest of this thread.
Looking forward to the updates.

**HarishK** · 11-17-2011, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post

Hi guys,

I am going for a bore-up kit + reworked head with bigger calves, bigger carb, and new exhaust.

Please do not take this as a critic to Joel, who appears undeniably as not only a very nice person (we have exchange about ten mails) but also a very good engineer, but the parts I will be using will not come from Race-concepts, mainly because I have decided to go for ....200cc.! Joel is obviously super-busy and does not appear to consider working on a 200cc. for this bike...at the moment.

So, for those who may be interested, the parts I am getting (and which can certainly be obtained in India too) are:
- 66m. TDR forged piston with accessories
- re-bored cylinder with centrifugally cast liner (made in Indonesia, but you can have superb parts made by COSMO )
- 29 and 34mm. high performance valves
- corresponding valve seats from COSMO
- BS 29 carburetor with manifold and rubber

The head will be ported here. I have extensive 3D and some flow analysis programs (CFD) and will "have fun" designing the ports and the combustion chamber. I do not mean I will do it better than Joel or even as well, but this will be an interesting research (just an application of the classics, actually: that's all I'm capable of doing!).

The exhaust will be another research subject, being essentially an enlargement of the stock one, without the catalytic converter of course, but keeping (?) a "midship" resonator, a similar aft muffler, and keeping the stock heat shield. This will never be as performing as a Free Flow, since sound attenuation systematically looses power, but I hope that the intricacies of resonance will not be too much of a headache!

Anyway: will let you know and share all the information here! That should be a hell of a bike, giving this great but underpowered bike the "muscle" it needs, and not only in the looks!

Really a great work, i would say.

Please post a new thread with pics and explanation on each stage.

Thanks.

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