2009 Speculation thread: What bikes could be launched?

[vipin_s]

Interesting because that would mean the 99.xx percentage of bikes running in carbs would be affected by the law. But the implementation of the law, or upholding of the law, rather, which is in question.

@pranay : The bikes already produced will not be affected (don't we ride RX/RD/Samurai etc etc even today with a PUC ?) , they will just ban production of BSIV non complaint bikes. Companies will not make radically different bikes starting April2010, but they will modify cat-con etc etc to bring down effluent levels to meet BSIV norms.

[akshaye11]

What do you find a joke in it, common man if you dont believe just go on google n check about the GSX-R 125 and you will find the answer, sometime you should run your mind too, always in life dont comment on things wihtout knowing them, so next time keep my words in your head.

"Your words in my head " hey ...hey !!! do you check it on google man and belive it ?????? hmmmm then search for PULSAR 300cc you will also find it .......and I think bajaj too don't who is launching there 300cc pulsar ???? are you ???and about the gsx-r 125 it was to be launch 2008
and I think it mid of 2009 and I don't find any GSX-R 125 .

[Rajat Bhanti]

This section is more becoming like joke thread !!!!!
that the new pulsar is coming 2 stroke ............bla bla
the new gxr 125 ......................

What do you find a joke in it, common man if you dont believe just go on google n check about the GSX-R 125 and you will find the answer, sometime you should run your mind too, always in life dont comment on things wihtout knowing them, so next time keep my words in your head.

[sukant08]

I think both you guys should start behaving like responsible adults!



Even I do not know what those guys are upto!

Coming back to your question of FI and carbs there are still a lot of bikes with carbs and there will remain a lot of bikes with carbs conforming to Euro IV norms.

I read somewhere, they'll need to add a second catalytic converter to make the existing carb'd bikes to conform with the new emissions !!
So I'd guess economiser bikes are still safe, that way.

But wudn't that add dead weight to the "performance" bikes !!

Regarding ZMA Fi, I rate Topgear pretty highly, so I'd assume they are not spreading heresay a la other mags !!
But there were no other details with it, so I'm afraid everything might still be up in ether !!

True. And it should be the same for all of us, for the betterment of this thread. This thread has become more like 'There aren't many bikes launched nowadays, so let's kill time here' thread.

I try a lot to excercise restraint !! But kya karein, control hi nahin hota !!
Maybe I shud go sit under a banyan tree for a cupl of years !!

[ken cool]

Thanks for ur suggestions. What are u, a walking encyclopedia?

I never said that i was an encyclo. Anyways would just say two things in this context , take your pick!

1. Ignorance is bliss and
2. Not ignorance , but ignoance of ignorance is bad.

I think both you guys should start behaving like responsible adults!

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE !!!

And Ken sir, regarding ur earlier post, I kno u r not in the rat race of highest post !! Its about quality for u, not quantity isnt it !!

And regarding P220, I kno FI was not added to it for the sake of emissions, but I made the statement about carbs in general.
Because I thght BS IV is getting enforced from April 2010 and carbs will have a tuff time confirming to those norms !

Even I do not know what those guys are upto!

Coming back to your question of FI and carbs there are still a lot of bikes with carbs and there will remain a lot of bikes with carbs conforming to Euro IV norms.

[inder.cool]

BTW, I got Topgear India magazine yesterday, and there was a snippet regarding HH finally launching FI Zma. Considering Topgear generally do not issue muppet statements just like that, I'd think there reason to be happy for ZMA FI aspirants !!

Speculater sahab, ab ye vaapis kyu raise kar diya aapne..!!!

[pranay]

And Ken sir, regarding ur earlier post, I kno u r not in the rat race of highest post !! Its about quality for u, not quantity isnt it !!

True. And it should be the same for all of us, for the betterment of this thread. This thread has become more like 'There aren't many bikes launched nowadays, so let's kill time here' thread.

And regarding P220, I kno FI was not added to it for the sake of emissions, but I made the statement about carbs in general.
Because I thght BS IV is getting enforced from April 2010 and carbs will have a tuff time confirming to those norms !

Interesting because that would mean the 99.xx percentage of bikes running in carbs would be affected by the law. But the implementation of the law, or upholding of the law, rather, which is in question.

But even product positioning wise, I'd reckon carb P220 is a baby step backwards !!

True, which is why I feel it is truly a myth, unless is planning to launch two versions of the 220 as speculated by some people here.

And regarding 2-srokes coming back to production !!

There was an article regarding the conceptualization of modern two-strokes. It stated that this engine was capable of meeting the future standards of emission with typical 2 stroke power retained. I will have to dig the net for that, but I am certain I read it somewhere.

BTW, I got Topgear India magazine yesterday, and there was a snippet regarding HH finally launching FI Zma. Considering Topgear generally do not issue muppet statements just like that, I'd think there reason to be happy for ZMA FI aspirants !!

ZMA-Fi has always been on the cards since waaaay back, but I guess HH went into coloring/stickering mode or something.

[pads]

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE !!!

And regarding 2-srokes coming back to production !!

Intruder 1x5 ?? Faints !!

BTW, I got Topgear India magazine yesterday, and there was a snippet regarding HH finally launching FI Zma. Considering Topgear generally do not issue muppet statements just like that, I'd think there reason to be happy for ZMA FI aspirants !!

You are too happy after listening to the news of 2-stroke......

n Topgear is following the Indian Mags path()...... but its a good news ......

So finally. Lets speculate the possible OTR price now

I think that the Zma Fi would cost close to 1 lac or even more (if some other goodies are added), given that the Stunner Fi costed 14k more than the carb'ed Stunner!

will it be all red scheme ........

[blisteringintelligence]

HH may try to keep the price below 1L to woo the R15 customers..

[insanebiker]

BTW, I got Topgear India magazine yesterday, and there was a snippet regarding HH finally launching FI Zma. Considering Topgear generally do not issue muppet statements just like that, I'd think there reason to be happy for ZMA FI aspirants !!

So finally. Lets speculate the possible OTR price now

I think that the Zma Fi would cost close to 1 lac or even more (if some other goodies are added), given that the Stunner Fi costed 14k more than the carb'ed Stunner!

[niks_devil666]

But even product positioning wise, I'd reckon carb P220 is a baby step backwards !!

BTW, I got Topgear India magazine yesterday, and there was a snippet regarding HH finally launching FI Zma. Considering Topgear generally do not issue muppet statements just like that, I'd think there reason to be happy for ZMA FI aspirants !!

can a carb bike and Fi bike (with ECU remapping) tune to the same levels? maybe 220 carb can be tweaked higher than the Fi counterpart , thats why this speculation.

It seems Topgear is adopting to indian market to keep pace with others

[sukant08]

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE !!!

And Ken sir, regarding ur earlier post, I kno u r not in the rat race of highest post !! Its about quality for u, not quantity isnt it !!

And regarding P220, I kno FI was not added to it for the sake of emissions, but I made the statement about carbs in general.
Because I thght BS IV is getting enforced from April 2010 and carbs will have a tuff time confirming to those norms !

But even product positioning wise, I'd reckon carb P220 is a baby step backwards !!

And regarding 2-srokes coming back to production !!

Intruder 1x5 ?? Faints !!

BTW, I got Topgear India magazine yesterday, and there was a snippet regarding HH finally launching FI Zma. Considering Topgear generally do not issue muppet statements just like that, I'd think there reason to be happy for ZMA FI aspirants !!

[insanebiker]

I never said that i was an encyclo. Anyways would just say two things in this context , take your pick!

1. Ignorance is bliss and
2. Not ignorance , but ignoance of ignorance is bad.

My pick is to ignore ur comments from now on!

Anyways enjoy speculating

That was what we were doing until u came into the picture *sigh*

P.S : If u are interested in giving more tit-for-tat replies, better PM/VM me. Please dont hi-jack this thread. Adios

[niks_devil666]

Thanks for ur suggestions. What are u, a walking encyclopedia?

I knew that production was banned for a few 2 strokers, but was not sure whether it was due to pollution norms or was it limited to cubic capacity.I later confirmed it with an attachment. Got problems in understanding that?
Feel free not to comment then!

I never said that i was an encyclo. Anyways would just say two things in this context , take your pick!

1. Ignorance is bliss and
2. Not ignorance , but ignoance of ignorance is bad.

Anyways enjoy speculating

[insanebiker]

I would suggest using "bing" , it is supposed to give better results. That ways you won't have conflicting information.

Thanks for ur suggestions. What are u, a walking encyclopedia?

I knew that production was banned for a few 2 strokers, but was not sure whether it was due to pollution norms or was it limited to cubic capacity.I later confirmed it with an attachment. Got problems in understanding that?
Feel free not to comment then!