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  • #46
    Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

    ^^ i intended to weigh it before starting the thread however, the thread was started before the helmets could be weighed.

    Seeing the detailed report at his office...i have even seen the same for FF 350 at ls2 office. And when sunny denied sharing it online...i just asked that how to ensure the helmets sold in market are actually manufactured to right specs. And there is nothing wrong in asking.

    Regarding MT Axxis not being on MT website, sunny never said he will look into it. He said that related to why india is not on MT website. Regarding my this question, he has said that it is sold as shox axxis, to which i said that shox does not even have a website. Plz read before replying.

    Regarding dot and ece stamp on helmets. Tell me ...everyone including sunny and yourself wanted it to be embossed on helmet in ls2 thread, and now you come up with these pics of shoei, arai and schuberth with no dot stamp and still sold as dot approved.... Bro, plz make up your mind, whether you want stamp or not, whether uou think that stamp is required or not. First make up your mind.

    You shouldn't ask one thing to one helmet and another thng to another helmet.

    Regarding dot stamp i had a doubt and asked...it was upto sunny to reply. It seems it needs further study and digging deep why it is not being followed by some others also.
    And that is what i do research, discuss and ask questions...again research, discuss and ask questions and keep on doing it till all your queries are satisfied and that is what i did in ls2 thread and that is what i intended to do here.


    Unfortunately everybody was ready to ask all sort of questions to ls2 whereas nobody wants to ask any questions to MT, infact if somebody else is asking, he is being cross questioned.

    I have no further interest in indulging in this cross-questioning.

    Otherwise also, except myself, nobody else has any questions for MT, so it is pointless to discuss. And it is surprising.


    Even sunny is not replying.so again cross questioning each other does not have any point.

    I can clearly see where this thread is going and why.

    I am also out of this discussion.



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    • #47
      Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

      Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
      Seeing the detailed report at his office...i have even seen the same for FF 350 at ls2 office. And when sunny denied sharing it online...i just asked that how to ensure the helmets sold in market are actually manufactured to right specs. And there is nothing wrong in asking.

      No, there is nothing wrong in asking, just the manner of asking. Sunny said anyone was welcome to look at the report. Perhaps you could ask one of your Chennai biker friends to look into it, is it a big deal? If you're still not satisfied, there's always the personal route.

      Regarding MT Axxis not being on MT website, sunny never said he will look into it. He said that related to why india is not on MT website. Regarding my this question, he has said that it is sold as shox axxis, to which i said that shox does not even have a website. Plz read before replying.

      Did you read what he said?
      Your question was "if the model sold in india is not listed on company website, it raises very serious doubts."
      Sunny replied "As far as I know, MT does not sell under its own brand in the USA. Its helmets are sold under a joint venture as ZOAN Helmets. As for India, SPG has just started imports, so I guess the website would be updated soon. Thats a good point though - and I will follow that up."

      I'm not sure of what is unclear there. And as an example, Studds shifter isn't listed on the Studds website, so should it raise serious doubts that it's not manufactured by Studds?

      Regarding dot and ece stamp on helmets. Tell me ...everyone including sunny and yourself wanted it to be embossed on helmet in ls2 thread, and now you come up with these pics of shoei, arai and schuberth with no dot stamp and still sold as dot approved.... Bro, plz make up your mind, whether you want stamp or not, whether uou think that stamp is required or not. First make up your mind.
      You posted a photo of a SHOXX without the dot stamp, to which I posted photographs of well known brands on a well known site which do not carry the label. This was just to share with you that other brands might not have the label at the time. Does that make them bad? As for the MT sold in India, it does carry the DOT and ECE labels, so what was your point there? Everyone knows that it's a good thing to have the certification laminated under the clear coat, which in this case, it is, so what is the problem?

      You shouldn't ask one thing to one helmet and another thng to another helmet.
      No one is, asking the right questions would be of greater benefit to the community.

      Regarding dot stamp i had a doubt and asked...it was upto sunny to reply. It seems it needs further study and digging deep why it is not being followed by some others also.
      And that is what i do research, discuss and ask questions...again research, discuss and ask questions and keep on doing it till all your queries are satisfied and that is what i did in ls2 thread and that is what i intended to do here.
      Doubt so - you posted an image of a MT helmet without a DOT embossed/painted label and another HJC with the new certification, to which I shared images which showed well known helmets without the DOT label and in another case with old certification.

      Unfortunately everybody was ready to ask all sort of questions to ls2 whereas nobody wants to ask any questions to MT, infact if somebody else is asking, he is being cross questioned.

      No one is cross questioning you, they are wondering why you are off on the wrong tangent. For LS2, the valid points of sharp ratings, stickering, MRP, misleading model labelling, weights etc were there. For this brand, those questions have been answered.

      I have no further interest in indulging in this cross-questioning.

      Otherwise also, except myself, nobody else has any questions for MT, so it is pointless to discuss. And it is surprising.

      Even sunny is not replying.so again cross questioning each other does not have any point.
      I am almost sure you know he's travelling, he might not have the time and access to reply instantly.

      That said, I think you're doing a good service for the biker community by questioning the biking gear available and the safety standards. Please don't take things personally, but do realize that some questions didn't make sense for a lot of people. No one is questioning your enthusiasm and eagerness to ensure that better quality products and safety are at the top of the biking community's mind.

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      • #48
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        I was travelling yesterday. Left home at 4.30 am, early morning flight from Chennai, meeting in Mumbai, drove to Pune and finally crashed at midnight without being able to access the site. Kept getting SMS and whatsapp msgs from friends the whole day though and I was very curious to see what was going on.

        It appears that there was a lot of discussion that happened and frankly I agree mostly without direction or relevance to the point of this thread. I'm not going to get into details but I am hoping to meet up with some of the Pune XBhpians today if possible. I'd like to meet you guys as a biker visiting from Chennai but if you have any direct questions, I'd take that too, so do let me know if we can meet up. Pls PM me of the possibility.

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        • #49
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          Prince, We all appreciate your effort but now you are taking it too personally and going off the point to prove 'something'. I am no where Spartan user and dont even know Sunny personally, and neither I am getting benefitted in any ways. All the valid questions have been answered and some minor things, as said, Sunny would look into it.
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          • #50
            Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

            Originally posted by Sunnyside_up! View Post
            I was travelling yesterday. Left home at 4.30 am, early morning flight from Chennai, meeting in Mumbai, drove to Pune and finally crashed at midnight without being able to access the site. Kept getting SMS and whatsapp msgs from friends the whole day though and I was very curious to see what was going on.

            It appears that there was a lot of discussion that happened and frankly I agree mostly without direction or relevance to the point of this thread. I'm not going to get into details but I am hoping to meet up with some of the Pune XBhpians today if possible. I'd like to meet you guys as a biker visiting from Chennai but if you have any direct questions, I'd take that too, so do let me know if we can meet up. Pls PM me of the possibility.

            Cheers!
            Thanks for all the info. provided at the start of this thread, [MENTION=45506]sunnys[/MENTION]ide_up. Really matters a lot to a person like me who would chose a non-popular brand with valid certifications vs. a popular brand where I'm unsure of the product certifications and official dealerships.

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            • #51
              Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

              Dear members, please maintain sanity on this thread!

              There's no point dwelling into people's personal lives or trying to earn a few brownie points by raising improper questions not in context of this thread.
              Any off topic post will be DELETED now on!

              Please discuss MT Helmets and its credentials only!

              Thanks.
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              • #52
                Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

                In the market for a new helmet, had my eyes set on the HJC but a friend of mine recommended the MT lineup.
                Thanks to the effort by Sunnyside_up! , I think I'll consider this more seriously.

                I'm looking at the following models :

                MT AXXIS Vector 690
                MT MATRIX Track Spirit
                MT BLADE Raceline Sport Series


                The product brochure, though in English, doesn't give me the full picture.
                Can you please let me know what the pros and cons are ? This will be the primary helmet, and the weather in Bangalore is acting up, so priority is for air-vents and weight.
                Other than the weight difference and "air pump" feature, what are the difference I'll see/experience in day-to-day usage?
                Last edited by Newbie101; 10-20-2014, 08:00 PM.

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                • #53
                  Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

                  Originally posted by Newbie101 View Post
                  In the market for a new helmet, had my eyes set on the HJC but a friend of mine recommended the MT lineup.
                  Thanks to the effort by Sunnyside_up! , I think I'll consider this more seriously.

                  I'm looking at the following models :

                  MT AXXIS Vector 690
                  MT MATRIX Track Spirit
                  MT BLADE Raceline Sport Series


                  The product brochure, though in English, doesn't give me the full picture.
                  Can you please let me know what the pros and cons are ? This will be the primary helmet, and the weather in Bangalore is acting up, so priority is for air-vents and weight.
                  Other than the weight difference and "air pump" feature, what are the difference I'll see/experience in day-to-day usage?
                  I'll try to be concise.

                  IF speed is your thing and you want a sporty, edgy kind of helmet, the Axxis or Revenge. The Axxis is your choice if you're on a tight budget otherwise spring for the Revenge for about 1K more. It's 5 Star SHARP rating is worth it. If weight is your primary concern, then the Matrix hands down. With the lighter weight comes a premium handmade shell and interiors, which push up the price. If you want an all round helmet which works in all situations and don't mind the slight extra weight, then the Blade is the choice.

                  I did Leh this year with my Blade as its internal sun visor was invaluable and built in speaker pockets accommodated my SENA flawlessly riding an RE. Also used the same helmet to Rajasthan in March on my Harley. Preferred the lightweight Matrix for my Tiger as rough roads put additional strain on you if you have a heavy helmet. I enjoyed the lightweight while off-roading and jumping speed breakers. I am big-jowled , overweight and on the wrong side of 45, so find the aggressive tapered race fit of the Axxis and Revenge too much testosterone for me. But if you're a young, lean, mean se* machine with a need for speed, these might suit you better.

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                  • #54
                    Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

                    Originally posted by Sunnyside_up! View Post
                    I'll try to be concise.

                    IF speed is your thing and you want a sporty, edgy kind of helmet, the Axxis or Revenge. The Axxis is your choice if you're on a tight budget otherwise spring for the Revenge for about 1K more. It's 5 Star SHARP rating is worth it. If weight is your primary concern, then the Matrix hands down. With the lighter weight comes a premium handmade shell and interiors, which push up the price. If you want an all round helmet which works in all situations and don't mind the slight extra weight, then the Blade is the choice.

                    I did Leh this year with my Blade as its internal sun visor was invaluable and built in speaker pockets accommodated my SENA flawlessly riding an RE. Also used the same helmet to Rajasthan in March on my Harley. Preferred the lightweight Matrix for my Tiger as rough roads put additional strain on you if you have a heavy helmet. I enjoyed the lightweight while off-roading and jumping speed breakers. I am big-jowled , overweight and on the wrong side of 45, so find the aggressive tapered race fit of the Axxis and Revenge too much testosterone for me. But if you're a young, lean, mean se* machine with a need for speed, these might suit you better.

                    Cheers!
                    Thank you for the inputs.
                    Lean ? Definitely. As for the other adjectives, well - I wish :-D

                    The weight is my primary concern, the Matrix is a bit of stretch for my budget, which can be justified if I can tell myself how good it is. So I guess, next on the list is find a dealer in Bangalore and try one. Got the list of authorized dealers from SPG website, will check them out.

                    Quick question, you missed out on the Blade series - are they somewhere in between Axxis and Matrix in the product line-up?

                    The graphics on the Axxis Vector is in line with the bike - The RC 390, hence I'm a bit inclined to it.

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                    • #55
                      Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

                      I got the MT Blade which goes well with my RC200 .....Got this from Moto 101 Pune. Also got the spartan Gloves .....Getting the Jacket by this month end.

                      I did find the product quality really nice. @Sunnyside_up! I think this is correct helmet for my Ride....If you think any thing is better than this. I can stretch my budget and get it changed Please advice....

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                      • #56
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                        Originally posted by BiKeLovER View Post
                        I got the MT Blade which goes well with my RC200 .....Got this from Moto 101 Pune. Also got the spartan Gloves .....Getting the Jacket by this month end.

                        I did find the product quality really nice. @Sunnyside_up! I think this is correct helmet for my Ride....If you think any thing is better than this. I can stretch my budget and get it changed Please advice....

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                        • #57
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                          Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                          whats the use.reason for nfc/gps ?
                          In case of accidents we can tap our android phone on the helmet chin which will send the location details of your fall to 3 number selected by you.

                          No use to me as it work with Android NFC i use Iphone...

                          Sunnyside_up! can give more details on same.
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                          • #58
                            Re: MT Helmets - Genuine?

                            Originally posted by BiKeLovER View Post
                            In case of accidents we can tap our android phone on the helmet chin which will send the location details of your fall to 3 number selected by you.
                            Sunnyside_up! can give more details on same.
                            I mean, if you are in a crash, then:
                            1. you should be mobile enough to take the fone and tap it on the helmet
                            2. the fone itself should be functional (to be able to use this feature)
                            3. The stuff on the helmet that helps use this feature should be functional

                            There are other ways of achieving this 'send gps coordinates' even without the helmet or nfc... and the one advantage i think this nfc stuff has is when the fone's display is broken or the touch doesn't work in the event of a crash or otherwise. (or does it require the user to open the app and then bring it close to the helmet?)

                            btw, i think there are other ways to get a similar functionality.. for helmets or other things as well using nfc tag stickers.

                            Found this video from moto101.. a dealer for the MT helmets:
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                            • #59
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                              I'm a fan of modular helmets and the current MT Optimus Pro Nero looks quite good. Wanted to know any reviews or suggestions regarding the same.

                              This reminds me the helmet dilemma I've been facing and thought maybe bhpians can help me out here.

                              Right now I've zeroed in the following two helmets (both MT, feel them to be well qualified and bang for the buck)

                              1. MT OPTIMUS Solid Nero
                              Modular Flip Up with dual certification ECE R22.05 and DOT
                              Imported by SPG, can buy it online from them as well as the local authorized re-seller here in Hyd (surprisingly no re-seller is there up North)
                              5.5-6k approx


                              2. MT Revenge
                              Dual Certified - ECE R-22.05 & DOT
                              UK Govt SHARP Rating - 5 Stars
                              5.5-6k approx

                              The dilemma - since the cost and the brand is the same I cant decide which one to get - Optimus (for being modular) or Revenge (for the added Sharp 5 rating)?
                              Last edited by manu_pulsar; 12-13-2014, 08:15 PM.

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                              • #60
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                                Originally posted by manu_pulsar View Post
                                I'm a fan of modular helmets and the current MT Optimus Pro Nero looks quite good. Wanted to know any reviews or suggestions regarding the same.

                                Right now I've zeroed in the following two helmets (both MT, feel them to be well qualified and bang for the buck)
                                Wow! Seems your 1st post after xBhp got resurrected in '08!
                                Modular helmets with 5 stars rating maybe safe, no doubt; but I feel nothing gives the peace of mind an equally rated full face does! Purely my opinion.
                                I'd choose Revenge.
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