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    • Originally posted by sam92 View Post
      is it ,or the pillion seat is bigger than RTR 160

      May be.. Now the overall length is increased by 65mm from RTR 160..

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        • 65mm is big , pillion seat on the 160 isnt too comfortable . i hope 180 has bigger seats

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          • @ abv ..
            then they ,must have brought a new frame ? or a new swingarn ?
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            • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
              as long as thr's TVS written on the tyres....

              they can't be anti skid or performance tyres....
              Thats not necessarily true... MRF had the same reputation a few years back, but look where they are now! Dont Generalize....!

              Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
              This is what happens when disk brakes are strong, but tyres are smaller. Of course, feel from the brakes is strong on slightest press, but...

              Whenever Bajaj upgrades their front brakes, (say P200 & 220) they upgrade the tyres too. So, that braking improves overall...
              This has got NO relevance to the thread, the RTRs braking is way better than the Pulsars... Infact I would say its second only to the R15/FZ league....


              Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
              This is just a "fictitious assumption" of Bike India's Staff.

              and Wheelbase could have been fine at 1320mm... I wonder why they raised it to 1340, whereas top speed doesn't seem increased.
              1) Your wheelbase answer is in the original posts itself....
              2) With the RTR its probably the 'response' that they are looking at. i.e. the acceleration and not the top speed... the RTR160 was said to have a top speed of 118KM, I have rode it to 123 on a fairly accurate GPS
              I remember the OD team stating that the bike reaches 120Ks rather effortlessly...
              With proper riding and gear switching am sure it would perform even better... lets see when the bike comes!

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              • Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
                If u look at the Video, it clearly states that the RTR 180 is Fuel Injected.
                i think it's thr mistake.....

                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                Thats not necessarily true... MRF had the same reputation a few years back, but look where they are now! Dont Generalize....!
                TVS use MRF for it's track machines.....

                lets see how TVS will be improvin on it's tyres...
                till thn they'll be suckin'....



                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                This has got NO relevance to the thread, the RTRs braking is way better than the Pulsars... Infact I would say its second only to the R15/FZ league....
                RTR's front is way better than FZ and R15...
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                • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                  TVS use MRF for it's track machines.....

                  lets see how TVS will be improvin on it's tyres...
                  till thn they'll be suckin'....
                  They moved on to a tubless platform all by themselves, dont you think its an improvement?
                  As far as using x Brand tyres for racing is concerned, it has no relevance to what I said....
                  'says the guy with a MRF C 3.00 x 18 in the rear on the RTR, which is SAME as what TVS uses on the race track


                  Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                  RTR's front is way better than FZ and R15...
                  Ignorance is bliss.... I have access to all three of them... (own two, and my bro in law has the FZ)
                  The FZ and R15 are in a different league all together when it comes to Braking......!
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                  • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                    Ah Nice... but I guess the White stil remains a personal favorite!
                    +1

                    Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                    They moved on to a tubless platform all by themselves, dont you think its an improvement?
                    As far as using x Brand tyres for racing is concerned, it has no relevance to what I said....
                    'says the guy with a MRF C 3.00 x 18 in the rear on the RTR, which is SAME as what TVS uses on the race track




                    Ignorance is bliss.... I have access to all three of them... (own two, and my bro in law has the FZ)
                    The FZ and R15 are in a different league all together when it comes to Braking......!
                    Have a wierd feeling tht the new rear tubeless tyre would be grippier than what we have in RTR160.

                    and +1 to the Fz/R 15 braking!
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                    • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post



                      Ignorance is bliss.... I have access to all three of them... (own two, and my bro in law has the FZ)
                      The FZ and R15 are in a different league all together when it comes to Braking......!
                      i would surely blame it on the tyres and not the brakes
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                      • Originally posted by sam92 View Post
                        i would surely blame it on the tyres and not the brakes
                        I would credit it to the so stable deltabox chassis (for r15).... but then that wasnt the point

                        On a stock setup, the braking performance on the R15 and the FZ is miles ahead of anyone....

                        BTW There are people running with the R15s tyres on the RTRs around....
                        Last edited by satyenpoojary; 06-11-2009, 06:05 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                          They moved on to a tubless platform all by themselves, dont you think its an improvement?
                          As far as using x Brand tyres for racing is concerned, it has no relevance to what I said....
                          'says the guy with a MRF C 3.00 x 18 in the rear on the RTR, which is SAME as what TVS uses on the race track

                          Well, it realy remains creditable what our Indian brands are coming to/have come to.....
                          But I would second the opinion that tvs has to improve a lot on there tyre's grips'....!



                          The FZ and R15 are in a different league all together when it comes to Braking......!
                          No two ways about it.................!
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                          • "The bike gets lighter tubeless tyres with 110-section, 17 inch rear. The tyres feel gripper than before and were zerozed in on after testing five different compounds and pattens. The whole wheel assembly is lighter by about 450gm compared to the RTR 160's."

                            "The chassis has been strengthened to handle the extra power."
                            (Source : overdrive june).

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                            • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                              The FZ and R15 are in a different league all together when it comes to Braking......!
                              may be i'm liking RTR's braking way too much.....

                              i only drove FZ and R15 over short distance so was not able to experience it fully...

                              but yes if you're sayin thn it is cuz you've driven both the bikes a LOT.....
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                              • Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
                                Well, it realy remains creditable what our Indian brands are coming to/have come to.....
                                But I would second the opinion that tvs has to improve a lot on there tyre's grips'....!

                                No two ways about it.................!
                                and by far......................!
                                Absolutley agreed to both the points.... thats why I have always said that the R15 has done a lot of good for us. Suddenly the benchmark is higher... and if we cannot do something new, atleast we should learn and copy them!

                                Originally posted by johnjojo08 View Post
                                "The bike gets lighter tubeless tyres with 110-section, 17 inch rear. The tyres feel gripper than before and were zerozed in on after testing five different compounds and pattens. The whole wheel assembly is lighter by about 450gm compared to the RTR 160's."

                                "The chassis has been strengthened to handle the extra power."
                                (Source : overdrive june).
                                Now thats a nice bit of info, even OD said that new RTR is visibly the same but has a LOT of small subtle changes to improve it!

                                Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                                but yes if you're sayin thn it is cuz you've driven both the bikes a LOT.....
                                Yeah rode them, crashed them and all
                                No but seriously if you can get your hands on a R15, try riding it for a longer while... and you will know what I mean!
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