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**pads** · 04-17-2009, 08:24 PM

Legend....... ok RX, RD are legend...... goto a small town like Darjeeling n u'll see how Pulsar becomes legend...... goto Bihar n u'll see Rajdoot is Legend there........ even here in Hyd my pump mechanic is riding Chetak which is more than 25 years of age(same as mine)...... its in his family for three generations.......

Now in Darjeeling during school days also we used to see only Bullets going to hills(even those golden colour 500cc huge bullets) & when Pulsar came there were Pulsars n Pulsars...... CBZ or Fiero couldn't do that(noone ready to take there bikes to hills).....

In Patna city n Chapra dist. I was shocked to the total dominance of Rajdoot n few Enfields...... No other bikes......

n in cities like Hyd where so many two-wheelers are there u'll see old Chetaks n LML scooters running......

In city like Kolkata where u'll hardly see bikes(no offence, just comparing), u can find many enfield owners with Sholay style......

I think its too early to judge Bajaj...... lets wait for another 10 years.......

**pads** · 04-17-2009, 08:52 PM

Hey I was just checking the net n found this......
Bajaj Auto Limited -- Company History

its saying co. started in 1945 & started manufaturing in 1960

...... n then also they are lagging so much in technology....... is it common people fault or the cos. fault...... y the technology not there in India....... People didn't wanted or Companies didn't produced.......

Even Hero is here since 1956..... Started producing bikes decades after this...... N till now there's nothing from Hero...... Its complete range is detuned Honda.......

Even TVS is producing 2-wheelers in country since 1980.....

so our earlier generation never wanted anything better than RX100 or Rd350 or whatever OR the cos. didn't want to invest....... now I'm not gonna consider any bike as legend except RE....... what these companies have provided....... they just want profit by providing cheap technologies........

to hell with Bajaj or TVS or Hero Honda .......

**apacheboy** · 04-18-2009, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by pads View Post

Hey I was just checking the net n found this......
Bajaj Auto Limited -- Company History

its saying co. started in 1945 & started manufaturing in 1960

...... n then also they are lagging so much in technology....... is it common people fault or the cos. fault...... y the technology not there in India....... People didn't wanted or Companies didn't produced.......

Even Hero is here since 1956..... Started producing bikes decades after this...... N till now there's nothing from Hero...... Its complete range is detuned Honda.......

Even TVS is producing 2-wheelers in country since 1980.....

so our earlier generation never wanted anything better than RX100 or Rd350 or whatever OR the cos. didn't want to invest....... now I'm not gonna consider any bike as legend except RE....... what these companies have provided....... they just want profit by providing cheap technologies........

to hell with Bajaj or TVS or Hero Honda .......

RE no doubt is a legend but hang on a minute,even RE was forced to adopt to the changing conditions & they put a left side gear.(which doesn't find itself pretty well with purists).

IMHO Bajaj Chetak cant be a legend its a bloody rip off the lambretta in short its a copy.

But the humble honda cub is a legend worldwide because it was genuine & true to its roots.(its not a poser)

For Hero(not hero honda) the original Hero Puch is a Cult bike for college students all over...I used to dream to own one while i was in school.That bike was a path breaker for its time & so its a legend.again it was true to its roots..

And now comes TVS.if there is any auto company in india who have functional R&D department(apart from Tata motors) it has to be TVS.They started with the AX-100 then there was the Supra & the engine evolved to produce the Samurai,(the original reliablity champ) & then there was THE BOSS.
They put a 5-speed gearbox on a bike.(the first company to do that in its segment,forget RD it was a CKD).They were the first to put a CV carb on a bike in the Fiero.The Centra though was doomed was a techincal GEM.

no hard feelings....enuff off topic...point conveyed..

**kk_RTR** · 04-18-2009, 10:11 AM

hey guys how did everyone forget the BAJAJ AUTORICKSHAW.............

dunno abt other BAJAJ products.....but this one surely is a LIVING LEGEND..

**HydBiker** · 04-18-2009, 11:48 AM

The Bajaj Auto Rikshaw is sure a legend... but we are speaking bikes here.

**soulstation** · 04-18-2009, 12:19 PM

Most of the Bajaj Bikes if not all are rip off's well most of the chinese, nepalese, twinense.. etc. too have companise that make mix breeds (paria) no harm in that.

some one mentioned M80 (Honda Cub). Pulsar designs (ask Suzuki). Scooter and Auto (ask Piaggio)

actully bajaj did have one such motorcycle called legend if im not mistaken.

in my opinion. these bajaj bikes are legends in India.

Boxer, Cheatak, m80, pulsar (any, they all look the same)

**pranay** · 04-18-2009, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by soulstation View Post

........if not all are rip off's well most of the chinese, nepalese, twinense.. etc. too have companise that make mix breeds (paria) no harm in that. ..........

some one mentioned M80 (Honda Cub). Pulsar designs (ask Suzuki). Scooter and Auto (ask Piaggio)

actully bajaj did have one such motorcycle called legend if im not mistaken.

in my opinion. these bajaj bikes are legends in India.

Boxer, Cheatak, m80, pulsar (any, they all look the same)

Don't talk out of your hat buddy. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Pulsar was copied by Chinese brands and sold in Nepal. Nepal has started to build bikes only lately and most of them are built from borrowed parts from Indian motorbikes. I don't even know what Twinese means...but if you mean Taiwanese, then you have to be kiddin...

http://ia.rediff.com/money/2006/nov/22bajaj.htm

**rx100.7050** · 04-18-2009, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by soulstation View Post

Most of the Bajaj Bikes if not all are rip off's well most of the chinese, nepalese, twinense.. etc. too have companise that make mix breeds (paria) no harm in that.

some one mentioned M80 (Honda Cub). Pulsar designs (ask Suzuki). Scooter and Auto (ask Piaggio)

actully bajaj did have one such motorcycle called legend if im not mistaken.

in my opinion. these bajaj bikes are legends in India.

Boxer, Cheatak, m80, pulsar (any, they all look the same)

WHAT????? Serious??? You forgot those iron pills, right?? It is actually the other way round, FYI

**soulstation** · 04-18-2009, 10:45 PM

Ouch! i forgot 'Fanboy alert'

yeah i did mean Taiwanese. (been there)

not that i was bad mouthing them. there is nothing wrong when your design seems to be inspired on someone else's design. its all good.

BTW: in case someone missed the point. i meant African and East Asia market OEM's too do have designs that japan-ese and Italians have had in production for a while. I DID NOT SAY BAJAJ COPYS EAST ASIAN COMPANIES. copy that rx70

**pads** · 04-20-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by apacheboy View Post

RE no doubt is a legend but hang on a minute,even RE was forced to adopt to the changing conditions & they put a left side gear.(which doesn't find itself pretty well with purists).

IMHO Bajaj Chetak cant be a legend its a bloody rip off the lambretta in short its a copy.

But the humble honda cub is a legend worldwide because it was genuine & true to its roots.(its not a poser)

For Hero(not hero honda) the original Hero Puch is a Cult bike for college students all over...I used to dream to own one while i was in school.That bike was a path breaker for its time & so its a legend.again it was true to its roots..

And now comes TVS.if there is any auto company in india who have functional R&D department(apart from Tata motors) it has to be TVS.They started with the AX-100 then there was the Supra & the engine evolved to produce the Samurai,(the original reliablity champ) & then there was THE BOSS.
They put a 5-speed gearbox on a bike.(the first company to do that in its segment,forget RD it was a CKD).They were the first to put a CV carb on a bike in the Fiero.The Centra though was doomed was a techincal GEM.

no hard feelings....enuff off topic...point conveyed..

yes apacheboy..... apt to the point..... thanks for these clarifications......

**Synn** · 04-20-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by soulstation View Post

Most of the Bajaj Bikes if not all are rip off's well most of the chinese, nepalese, twinense.. etc. too have companise that make mix breeds (paria) no harm in that.

some one mentioned M80 (Honda Cub). Pulsar designs (ask Suzuki). Scooter and Auto (ask Piaggio)

actully bajaj did have one such motorcycle called legend if im not mistaken.

in my opinion. these bajaj bikes are legends in India.

Boxer, Cheatak, m80, pulsar (any, they all look the same)

If anything, the Bajaj pulsars resemble last gen Honda Hornets. Unless you're referring to the tail lamps, of course. But that's hardly "Ripping off suzuki".

The Chetak and other scooters were initially manufactured after Bajaj licensed the designs from Piaggio. So there goes your theory of "Ripping off".I'm not hundred percent sure of this, but I am almost sure the M50 was similarly licensed from Kawasaki (Yes, all 4 japanese companies had similar step thrus. It's just the Cub that got massively popular worldwide).

If you are to look back in history, you'll see that the Japanese manufacturers started off making their versions of the British motorcycles. That's not ripping off. Every company has to start off learning from existing designs. "Ripping off" on the other hand is when companies basically steal a design, replicate the dies, assign a similar brand name and push it to the market with hardly any R&D from their side. Like the infamous Gulsar, for instance.

Oh, and the Legend was a scooter, not a motorcycle.

You may have been to Taiwan (As you smugly have stated), but your inability to put your point across clearly is the reason why other people have questioned you. Not to mention that you got some facts wrong.

No need to pull out the "Fanboy" card coz none is warranted.

**soulstation** · 04-20-2009, 05:04 PM

^^ thanks for stretching it. if the other post did not clarify itself enough..and for getting my facts right..

**rajiv_359** · 04-22-2009, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Mindgrinder View Post

pulsars will be legend, well they are almost. also ppl have get bored faster now compared to only choiced days of RX 100. Don't we see TVS copying them with Apache every now on then whenever i see apache's brake light it rings bell of copy of new pulsars.

days of RX100 were more or less like winning alone in a league

The human mentality loose interest if everybody start talking about it...its a fact
This is the same reason why reliance mobile go off the market...
When everybody wants to go behind 1 thing youth tries to stand out(maximum time). Take a poll how much trouble they face specially bajaj owners compared to other the picture will be clear.
When I thought of purchasing my bike, apapche was my first option. but my friend from TVS R&D told me that they were strugling to match with pulsar...

My father denied to replace his old 4s champion with new shine eventhough I offered him that free... CBZ brought 150cc first but Bajaj made them to ride it...for me it is always a great brand

**rajiv_359** · 04-22-2009, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by desideep View Post

this is one of the major reason why i dont prefer bajaj.
they are great bikes i would say bajaj is the one to start off the real biking scene in india. but i would not like to buy a BAJAJ cause every one has a bajaj. and i kinda want to be exclusive. and then it
now you would see why people would keep a BSA 1960 when given a chance to keep a RE BULLET 1960. because you can buy a Bullet even today but a BSA is rare. thats the only reason
now as some one mentioned here if you keep your DISCOVER till the time it is extint like say 2020 or some thing then yes people would love to ride one. cause not many people may be riding it.
for example My RX 100 is not one of the most power full bike on the road. but its peppy enough. i am sure a stock RX 100 can be beaten by any bikes that we have on the Delhi G2G. but what do i have it just cause i have it and not many people have it. i get the looks that one may not get on a brand new Bajaj. keep your discover well maintained not like a typical comuter and take it alond with you for next 20 years i am sure you would get the same feeling to what i get to day when i ride my RX.

and like HYDRO mentioned regarding the shoe brands.

Reboks may not be a lengend as nike cause NIKE does not keep a all year long 40-60% off. so to buy a NIKE you still have to shell may be 4.5 to 10 K so thats why a NIKE is a legend.

see we are talking some real exclusive thingi here and and very subjective choice factor.

Thats what exactly I was talking about

**rajiv_359** · 04-22-2009, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by wierd_san View Post

Well my take is a bike has to somehow grab u by the genitals and make u scream for mercy [ a lil bit like a wife] the RD, RX and shogun and AX100 could do that and that is why their owner's love them so dearly , I dnt somehow remember any Bajaj bike capable of that.

So at what speed you gonna scream or u are talking about that "JERK"...its not the bike its you...go to NH dont release ur accelerator...lets see when u will start and stop ur screaming

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