After reading every page I realised that whole argument has shifted to Pulsars from Bajaj as a whole.... that is acceptable to an extent coz Pulsar really marked the bold & loud arrival of Bajaj in motorcycling world, though models were available b'fore Pulsar as well.

Frankly, the RD & RX are legend bikes can't be doubted. But, let's not forget that Pulsar is a bike different from these..... so if we judge Pulsar on the parameters of racing and cornering, it's futile. They are not meant for these.

What I know is that Pulsar was always showcased as a bike which draws attention by its muscular looks, offers a mix of power & economy; enough for commuting & satiating the thirst for occassional high adrenaline. So I rate the Pulsar 10 on 10 for all these. It has been a hearthrob for last so many yrs, for older people its a synonym for speed, easily found on most of the touring ventures, etc. etc. I can go on & list won't end.

I owned a P150 classic, now have a '08 P150 DTS-i & soon will get a P220. I'm always satisfied with Pulsar.... the sound it gives enthralls me, i enjoy twisting the acclerator max on this bike..... it has some unique bold feel which separates it from others.

I respect other good machines but Pulsar has always been my loved one.

So, for me Pulsar (Bajaj) is a legend coz whenever evolution of good sporty (not racing) bike in INDIA would be discussed.... Pulsar would be the one voiced most.


For racing lovers.... I'd urge Bajaj R&D dept to churn out a dedicated machine and then legend of tracks can be decided.

I was just going through this thread after a long time and this line jumped out immediately.

Forget the P220 the puny XCD 135 dts?? is shown going around a track - a wet track!

And IIRC the P220 was distinctly portrayed as a uber handling, uber braking, uber technology laden track tool by the mags. And dont we all know from where the mags get their directions?

I was and am a huge pulsar (classic) fan. It was the first 150cc bike i rode. But when i bought my first bike, the apache I made my decison as i thought the Pulsar was a victim of its own phenomenal success. Even today if bajaj is playing around with the pulsars with their laughable 'upgrades' it is purely because of the fact that the Pulsar is a hit amongst masses - a hit not a legend. The TVS apache had its fair share of flaws and the people were quick at pointing it out. See what it has done to the bike. The Apache has evolved into a smashing bike -the RTR.

The Pulsar is the bike that has brought Bajaj to a discusion amongst enthusiasts like us but from where I see it the Pulsar could eventually be the bane of the company if they do not revamp the pulsar series.

I am not competent enough to comment on the older bajaj bikes, but w.r.t the Bajaj Pulsar. The growth of the comapny due to the bike is legendary. The bike is not.

cheers!

IMHO, we should rather let the pulsar be the pulsar we know.

For me, I acknowledge only up to the UG2 versions. The 200 and220 should've been in a different series.

The pulsar, I've always felt similar to a full size muscle car with no sharp lines, (let's forget the UG3), superb exhaust note, good bottom- upper mid range, very stable straight line handling, real heavy front, slippery rear end etc etc.

I've always felt that my 180 ug2 from 5500 rpm all the way to 10000rpm(except in 5th) felt like a 2 stroker.(the vibes and the freerevving short stroke).
whenever I take a curve on my rx the bike goes under and inside me while the 180 pulls me away with it. The heavy understeer is probably due to the rather front heavy design/ different rake/trail values. But what come with it is the superb straight line braking and stable handle at lowspeeds. My rx steering always felt very wobbly at low speeds especially with a pillion.

Moreover, no other indian bike except probably the flashier r15 or 220 or the heavier enfield has a has a better road presence. The LED taillamp with
shaky mudguard looks real cheap. [Maybe bajaj was trying to replicate the shaker hoods from the pontiacfirebird}

Bajaj should definitely bring out better handling, short stroke, rev happy, 4 valve bike with larger displacement. but I'd rather hav them call it a new series.

Why dont people update their so called Knowledge database?

This problem was in the first lot of the UG3s. The current lot doesnt have this problem. And to fix the issue on the earlier ones, Part # DJ 1612 72 is to be fixed into the rear mud guard.

U forgot what handling differences Bajaj has made with each of their Upgrades. Classics were the worst handlers and the current lot handles the best among the Pulsars.

And a note to pulsar owners. The rear shocks come out from the factory with the softest(Longest travel) setting. Please change it to the stiffest ASAP and see the diff in handling for urself. U can cut corners with ease.

And short stroke? All Pulsars are short stroke motors buddy! Wake up.

And all short strokers are Rev happy. But the current Pulsars have a rev limiter though. At 10.5k RPM.

For god's sake, what has a damned AD got to do with the bike?

For that matter, here are some ADs.

A bike turns into a Bull and says "Because Muscles matter"

A bike jumps off cliffs and says "Live off the edge"

A bike gets dirty, and it becomes spanking clean by just riding it and says "Always Game"

A newer version of the bike overtakes the earlier version and says "Fast just got Faster" ; although this AD was inspired from one of the ADs of it s competition

For the very same gods sake- why dont you just check the quoted message above my post and why I brought it in. And also who my particular line was directed at.

Oh, btw in case you wanna go 'ad based company bashing' lets not forget riding on the walls of a dam with a song sung by Nancy Sinatra.

Enough of OT from me. Apologies to everyone ELSE.

My bad! I never knew that. not that I cared.

Mate, I know my bike pretty well. Mine handles way better than the classic I learned to ride in. I changed the shock setting the first day I saw the lever in the toolkit. The problem was I was riding an rx in tandem. That really made me feel the difference.

You don't seem to get the essence of what I posted. See the next line. Anybody in xbhp who knows what oversquare and undersquare are knows that pulsar engines are oversquare.

What I said is I (probably we) want a new series retaining the short stroke (nature of the) engine. unlike the undersquare engines in xcd or squarer engines in unicorn, karizma and r15

Great Post. No Doubt its a great ad, tastefully shot, but thats it. If only Bajaj showed the kind of enthusiasm that they show in their adverts (YouTube - New Bajaj Pulsar TVC - Transformers) in quality, after-sales and service, this would seem a rhetorical question!!

Dude, you yourself have not mentioned about the bike going solo or with a pillion or against the time clock or against another bike. And yes I do know that you posted before the XCD ad came out. But am i blaming you for anything at all? you remarked that Bajaj has not gone to the track for advertorial purposes and I pointed out that even that has changed recently. And sadly not for the pulsars but for an XCD.


I would have really replied to this post had you put it across in a better tone. Minus your fetish.

Did i even mention that? The RTR example was to highlight what pushes the company to an upgrade. Thats it.

And please spare us the
'i-had-innumerable-posters-on-my-wall ;
And-that-makes-me-the-most-enthu-biker-of-em-all'

@all

Bajaj always had a superb bike in the Pulsar. But their parts sharing and cost cutting meant that pulsar brand became just too common. It kinda becomes a victim of its own success in our eyes. But to the junta it is still a bloody good bike, with gizmos and a punchy engine. Not to mention snazzy paint schemes.

What am I trying to tell here?

Regardless of the silly upgrades and Bajaj's effort at making all their bikes 98% common (the remaining 2% difference is in the name) majority of people in this country will still lap it up. That cannot happen if the company in question has not achieved particular status in the minds of the people. So this where the phenomenal growth of the company (thanks to the pulsar series) helps the company to win the hearts of the people.

Am sorry, but this one went above my head.

Oversquare and short stroke are the same AFAIK. Atleast make some use of Google/Wiki before screaming

[Same goes for Undersquare and Long stroke]



Now what is Squarer??!

Never heard of anything like that

Rossi's and Stoner's Alike .

Now what is Squarer??!

Never heard of anything like that[/quote]

engines which has equal or very close bore and stroke length are known as square engines...

karizma has a undersquare/long stroke motor and not a square engine...

I respect BAJAJ as its an INDIAN product...

And I can say that still now Bajaj bikes are in evolving stage.. the bikes are getting better version by version....

After a few years, Bajaj bikes would surely be a legend

I know that Square thing buddy.(anyone who knows Undersquare/Oversquare would know that for that matter) Just pointed out as our biker there had spelled it as Squarer

Conclusion: Pulsar is a legend.

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