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  • kailashnj
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post
    Yes bro.. this was the bottle
    This is the same oil they use even in Activa and in CBR - in fact I feel they use it in every other Honda Two wheeler.

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  • sanjaynk15
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by leech View Post
    Recommended oil grade for most Honda bikes is 10w30, not 10w40. Afaik, Honda has no SS oil, just 10w30 mineral, and 10w30 Throttle FS.

    Sanjay, did the bottle look like this :

    Yes bro.. this was the bottle

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  • shv18
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by leech View Post
    Nothing will happen to the CBR 250 if they pour in mineral 10w30 buddy. It meets Jaso MA.
    Nobody has said that anything will happen to the engine if mineral oil is poured. The intent of my post was to highlight the usual tactics employed by sales team/SVC guys to scare the uninitiated into believing that it will be catastrophic if any other engine oil brand is chosen. A little bit of arm twisting with facts and figures and their tone changes immediately as far as my experience goes.

    Hope this clears everything.

    Cheers,

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  • leech
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by shv18 View Post
    Adding to this, if they are so concerned about warranty then to my understanding the local Honda SVC has already made a blunder by pouring honda mineral oil instead of honda throttle FS, which in my experience is the general analogy/tactic used by SVCs to sell their oil stock by scaring the owners that their respective bike's engine life will reduce if they use any other brand etc. etc.

    In my ownership experience of both Yamaha and Honda, i have always got the things done my way so as [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir has rightly pointed out: it is all about rapport with the SVC guys and a little "chai paani" for the mechanic will go a long way to keep your bike serviced and also get special attention: little extra..


    All the best

    Cheers
    Nothing will happen to the CBR 250 if they pour in mineral 10w30 buddy. It meets Jaso MA.

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  • leech
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Recommended oil grade for most Honda bikes is 10w30, not 10w40. Afaik, Honda has no SS oil, just 10w30 mineral, and 10w30 Throttle FS.

    Sanjay, did the bottle look like this :

    Last edited by leech; 09-28-2016, 04:32 PM.

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  • kailashnj
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by Darchorse View Post
    its a petrol pump??, can you plz give me address?
    It's not a petrol pump, it's a shell Lubricants distribution centre. It's near Malhar talkies, Thane west

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  • Darchorse
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by kailashnj View Post
    Hi,

    You can get the Shell Rimula R4 at the Shell store in Thane. I buy it from there.

    Regards,
    Kailash
    its a petrol pump??, can you plz give me address?

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  • kailashnj
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by Darchorse View Post
    Very helpful and informative thread for all bikers.... I am from mumbai its hard to get shell oils here, even ax7 too, anyone know where can i get shell rimula r4 hdeo oil in mumbai??
    Hi,

    You can get the Shell Rimula R4 at the Shell store in Thane. I buy it from there.

    Regards,
    Kailash

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  • shv18
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Regarding the warranty clause, anything other than Honda parts or oil will void warranty..It all depends on your rapport with the SVC mechanics...I do know that owners did get good support from SVC purely due to their good relationship with the SVC mechs....In fact my relationship with a nearby Hero SVC is good enough to get me 5~10% discount on parts, and I can order any Hero ZMA parts without paying advance ..of course the mechs are super helpful to me, and through me ,to other Xbhpians I send across for service to them.(personal attention)
    So a good PR with Good SVC is really a boon to us owners.
    I don't think the SVC will be able to distinguish between Shell Ultra 10w40 and Honda Throttle 10w40...Unless the Honda oil is different in color

    Good Luck
    Adding to this, if they are so concerned about warranty then to my understanding the local Honda SVC has already made a blunder by pouring honda mineral oil instead of honda throttle FS, which in my experience is the general analogy/tactic used by SVCs to sell their oil stock by scaring the owners that their respective bike's engine life will reduce if they use any other brand etc. etc.

    In my ownership experience of both Yamaha and Honda, i have always got the things done my way so as [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir has rightly pointed out: it is all about rapport with the SVC guys and a little "chai paani" for the mechanic will go a long way to keep your bike serviced and also get special attention: little extra..


    All the best

    Cheers

    Leave a comment:


  • psr
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Regarding the warranty clause, anything other than Honda parts or oil will void warranty..It all depends on your rapport with the SVC mechanics...I do know that owners did get good support from SVC purely due to their good relationship with the SVC mechs....In fact my relationship with a nearby Hero SVC is good enough to get me 5~10% discount on parts, and I can order any Hero ZMA parts without paying advance ..of course the mechs are super helpful to me, and through me ,to other Xbhpians I send across for service to them.(personal attention)
    So a good PR with Good SVC is really a boon to us owners.
    I don't think the SVC will be able to distinguish between Shell Ultra 10w40 and Honda Throttle 10w40...Unless the Honda oil is different in color

    Good Luck
    Last edited by psr; 09-27-2016, 09:35 PM.

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  • sanjaynk15
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Happy to note that the moisture ingress had been sorted out and nothing like we feared is the reason....still it is surprising how so much of water could have gone in the Air Box and then into the Crank area...My guess is the SVC mech must have used high pressure water cleaning and sprayed it into the air box, which lead to this problem...
    The oil recommended for CBR250 is 10w40 .When time permits, get the engine oil changed to this grade using Shell Ultra 10w40 or Rimula R4.....

    Good Luck

    Ride safe
    The water entering the air filter box is still a mystery sir. I think you are right here, the mech must have used high pressure jet. I am planning to change the oil when i go back to Bangalore that is the next monday. Will be riding the bike till there from my hometown(500kms). Sir does it void my warranty if i use shell ultra? I am guessing it will so i will have to stick with Honda Throttle 10w40

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  • psr
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post
    Hi all,
    Haven't been able to update here. As @psr sir advised, i got the oil changed after 150kms. The svc didn't have Honda Throttle(FS, for cbrs) oil with them, they filled normal mineral/ss(not sure) Honda oil of the same 10w30 grade. After the oil change the bike has clocked about 200kms and there is absolutely no signs of moisture/condensation in the engine. The oil is clear. The coolant level is the same and i can confirm that it is not dropping.
    I would like to thank @psr sir, @shv18 and everyone who helped me through this. Will keep updating here!
    Cheers!!
    Happy to note that the moisture ingress had been sorted out and nothing like we feared is the reason....still it is surprising how so much of water could have gone in the Air Box and then into the Crank area...My guess is the SVC mech must have used high pressure water cleaning and sprayed it into the air box, which lead to this problem...
    The oil recommended for CBR250 is 10w40 .When time permits, get the engine oil changed to this grade using Shell Ultra 10w40 or Rimula R4.....

    Good Luck

    Ride safe

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  • sanjaynk15
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Good to hear that you problem seems to be fixed...water in air filter will not go through the injectors, so using a good quality petrol will suffice to keep the Fi in good condition. If you want you can use System G . I happened to notice that the coolant level in one picture is marginally more than the other and so keep an eye on it if the lower level is the 95 kms level after top up.....
    Change the engine oil after the 100 Kms completion or after another 50 Kms as you had decided...but not later than that.
    Good Luck
    Hi all,
    Haven't been able to update here. As [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir advised, i got the oil changed after 150kms. The svc didn't have Honda Throttle(FS, for cbrs) oil with them, they filled normal mineral/ss(not sure) Honda oil of the same 10w30 grade. After the oil change the bike has clocked about 200kms and there is absolutely no signs of moisture/condensation in the engine. The oil is clear. The coolant level is the same and i can confirm that it is not dropping.
    I would like to thank [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION] and everyone who helped me through this. Will keep updating here!
    Cheers!!
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  • Divya Sharan
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by Darchorse View Post
    Very helpful and informative thread for all bikers.... I am from mumbai its hard to get shell oils here, even ax7 too, anyone know where can i get shell rimula r4 hdeo oil in mumbai??
    I'm not aware about Mumbai but most Shell fuel stations stock their range of oils here in Bangalore. Please get in touch with a Shell fuel station if possible near your place.

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  • Darchorse
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Very helpful and informative thread for all bikers.... I am from mumbai its hard to get shell oils here, even ax7 too, anyone know where can i get shell rimula r4 hdeo oil in mumbai??

    Leave a comment:

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