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  • sman999
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by shv18 View Post

    ADDITION:

    I would also advise you to first get both the rotors cleaned with surf water or detergent as it may have been the case that during one of your rides or getting your CBR washed outside, there might have been oil or diesel spilled on the rotors. under such circumstances, the braking efficiency reduces greatly. Get the rotors and the brake calipers pressure washed after application of detergent on it. Is has happened once with me due to sheer ignorance of the local washing shop's new recruit and post the clean up session, the braking was back and spot on. Just a thought!

    Cheers,
    Very well said. But No chance for this as the brake callipers were removed, cleaned and fitted by my mechanic during the pad change. I advised him to do so as i had the same thoughts. The rear which was pathetic is now say at 50% efficiency after cleaning. Let me soon narrow down to what the problem is after getting the plates checked as you said. I might change to HH sintered pads when they are actually due, say ~9k kms from now.

    Thanks!

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  • shv18
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by sman999 View Post
    Thanks for the detailed reply @shv18. The brake oil has been recently drained and changed when both the pads were changed. Dot 4. So no issues and i know exactly what you mean by sponginess due to air lock/water content. There is no proper bite at all. My mechanic might be right about the plates. But i never trust the Honda SVC guys here in my place as they dont have any basic knowledge about these kinda things. But i'll take your advice , will try to find a proper SVC for an checkup as they would cost me almost 3000 for both the plates. And i definitely want better brake pads as i'm an aggressive rider. So let me try those if i get a chance to grab them. Did a bit of research after seeing your post. Thanks again!

    Cheers,
    Maneesh S
    Again!! this is purely for information sake, a lot of NON ABS owners have opted for the route of using steel braided brake lines in their respective CBRs and the results have been positive. Mind you: this will be an expensive proposition but an ideal situation will be DOT 4 + Sintered Pads + Steel braided brake lines. You may refer to this post: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1062808

    ADDITION:

    I would also advise you to first get both the rotors cleaned with surf water or detergent as it may have been the case that during one of your rides or getting your CBR washed outside, there might have been oil or diesel spilled on the rotors. under such circumstances, the braking efficiency reduces greatly. Get the rotors and the brake calipers pressure washed after application of detergent on it. It has happened once with me due to sheer ignorance of the local washing shop's new recruit and post the clean up session, the braking was back and spot on. Just a thought!

    Cheers,
    Last edited by shv18; 11-10-2015, 12:18 AM.

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  • sman999
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by shv18 View Post
    Before going ahead with the advice of the mechanic of changing the brake disc rotors, i would request you to first kindly refer to these posts:

    1) http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1150877
    2) http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1154333

    As you may have noticed your query has already been covered on this thread. Any good Honda SVC will have a micrometer which will allow you to see whether the wear indication is within the acceptable limit or do you need to get the rotors replaced as per the service manual. The life of rotors and brake pads greatly depend on the way the motorcyclist/rider uses them. As per the excerpt from the service manual, the brake fluid replacement interval is @every 12,800 kms approx. If you refer to this post: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1159554 the colour of the brake fluid will give you an idea about the condition it is in your respective vehicle. Spongy or sudden non existence of braking may be associated with air in the brake lines or high amount of water content, brake fluid being hygroscopic (water absorbing) in nature.

    I would not like to advocate any product over here as this thread is purely about sharing my experiences and having interactive discussion with readers for knowledge sharing. However, to answer your question YES!! the HH sintered brake pads will definitely have an edge over the stock OEM pads in terms of brake bite and progressive feeling during application. That being said, excessive usage of braking with HH sintered brake pads may lead to rapid eating up of the rotors as the video link in the earlier post will suggest. With better braking now in hand thanks to the HH pads, the way you now would apply braking will also change as the required rider input for getting the same brake bite feel will become much lesser on the lever in comparison to the OEM ones. HH sintered pads are available for both ABS and NON ABS version. But bear in mind, for me it is purely a performance upgrade not exactly a must have for everyone. If you feel you want better brake bite and feel and have the moolah for the same then yes HH sintered brake pads is the way to go forward.

    Regarding availability and pricing details for the same you may connect with the seller with your own discretion and better judgement: https://www.facebook.com/motozoneperformance/



    Kindly visit the link above for the same.


    Cheers,
    Thanks for the detailed reply [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION]. The brake oil has been recently drained and changed when both the pads were changed. Dot 4. So no issues and i know exactly what you mean by sponginess due to air lock/water content. There is no proper bite at all. My mechanic might be right about the plates. But i never trust the Honda SVC guys here in my place as they dont have any basic knowledge about these kinda things. But i'll take your advice , will try to find a proper SVC for an checkup as they would cost me almost 3000 for both the plates. And i definitely want better brake pads as i'm an aggressive rider. So let me try those if i get a chance to grab them. Did a bit of research after seeing your post. Thanks again!

    Cheers,
    Maneesh S

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  • shv18
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by sman999 View Post
    @shv18 I own a non ABS version and I'm always jealous abt the ABS version. I feel that my brakes have deteriorated recently and the rear brake is not even effective as 50% as it was earlier. The master cylinder is fine my mechanic told me. He says the disk plate has to be changed as there are minute groves that can be felt with ur fingers.

    Would these brake pads make any difference/solve the problem to an extent?
    How much do they cost?
    What about the availability in chennai, any idea?
    Before going ahead with the advice of the mechanic of changing the brake disc rotors, i would request you to first kindly refer to these posts:

    1) http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1150877
    2) http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1154333

    As you may have noticed your query has already been covered on this thread. Any good Honda SVC will have a micrometer which will allow you to see whether the wear indication is within the acceptable limit or do you need to get the rotors replaced as per the service manual. The life of rotors and brake pads greatly depend on the way the motorcyclist/rider uses them. As per the excerpt from the service manual, the brake fluid replacement interval is @every 12,800 kms approx. If you refer to this post: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1159554 the colour of the brake fluid will give you an idea about the condition it is in your respective vehicle. Spongy or sudden non existence of braking may be associated with air in the brake lines or high amount of water content, brake fluid being hygroscopic (water absorbing) in nature.

    I would not like to advocate any product over here as this thread is purely about sharing my experiences and having interactive discussion with readers for knowledge sharing. However, to answer your question YES!! the HH sintered brake pads will definitely have an edge over the stock OEM pads in terms of brake bite and progressive feeling during application. That being said, excessive usage of braking with HH sintered brake pads may lead to rapid eating up of the rotors as the video link in the earlier post will suggest. With better braking now in hand thanks to the HH pads, the way you now would apply braking will also change as the required rider input for getting the same brake bite feel will become much lesser on the lever in comparison to the OEM ones. HH sintered pads are available for both ABS and NON ABS version. But bear in mind, for me it is purely a performance upgrade not exactly a must have for everyone. If you feel you want better brake bite and feel and have the moolah for the same then yes HH sintered brake pads is the way to go forward.

    Regarding availability and pricing details for the same you may connect with the seller with your own discretion and better judgement: https://www.facebook.com/motozoneperformance/

    Originally posted by vjxm View Post
    From where u got tappered roller bearing for handle conset.how much u pay for these. What exactly size of these bearings. Can u post some pics of packing.
    Me too looking for tapper bearing for my r15 v1.but not available here .
    Kindly visit the link above for the same.


    Cheers,
    Last edited by shv18; 11-09-2015, 11:20 PM.

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  • vjxm
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    Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by shv18 View Post
    Hi All,

    been a really busy week so have not been able to keep this thread updated. Regardless, would like to wish all the dear readers a very happy diwali in advance.

    QUICK UPDATE:
    The Coneset as mentioned is a complete goner and primarily due to lack of time i am not able to carry out and necessary replacement of the same with the recently procured tapered roller bearings. Hopefully, once the schedule is free, i would be in a position to do the needful and install the bearings quickly and report my observations on this thread.
    From where u got tappered roller bearing for handle conset.how much u pay for these. What exactly size of these bearings. Can u post some pics of packing.
    Me too looking for tapper bearing for my r15 v1.but not available here .

    Leave a comment:

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