Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

First of all, many thanks to @AK3D for finally coming up with sharing his side of the story. I am sure as he starts logging his experience simultaneously with mine, it will definitely add a lot more information for the readers to learn from and look forward to. Afterall, information shared here will benefit us all . Regardless, i would like to point out an interesting incident which occured in one of my weekend rides

INCIDENT REPORT

Well office work was piling up quite a bit and as usual there comes a point where one would like to close the whole book and simply vanish even if it is possible just for a day. It just so happened that the last week i had reached that limit where any ride even if a small one would let me unwind. As it is the case with motorcycling, you end up making friends over a period of time, regardless of different profession or background you may be from, a proposition landed up in front of me to visit Deomali and then Khonsa (Both in the Tirap district of Arunachal Pradesh, India) along with two hardcore riders who are as mad as i am ...so off i went hurrying as soon as possible. Readers may note, Assam and Arunachal Pradesh share the border in the South - Eastern side as well, an area which i had not checked out yet, so the whole plan sounded like a great idea that time.



Pic 1: Google "baba" showing the route map to Deomali & Khonsa, Arunachal Pradesh, India.

For those riders who are not aware, Arunachal Pradesh, having a smaller population per km, has got some of the most dense forests in India and is well known for wild life and especially the Asiatic elephants who roam free locally in these areas. It is usually advised by travellers that in the isolated areas of the forest one shouldn't travel at dark as elephants become active right from dusk and may block the road or if wrong signals are given out may become aggressive against anybody. Regardless, the sheer lure of riding was too much to ignore so off we went ahead with the plan. The initial road is slightly broken understandably due to very heavy rainfall in these parts. After a few kms towards Khonsa, the roads simply vanished and there was only gravel, tons of stones and dust.



Pic 2: Note the dense forest enroute Khonsa from Deomali, Arunachal Pradesh.

Riding in roads where there is ample amount of stones, dust and where one is slowly ascending to higher ground, it makes riding extremely tricky as you are fighting constantly with the conditions to get hold of grip. When ascending in areas where there is a sharp loop and the roads are broken, wet, covered with mud and pointy stones, as a fellow reader you can imagine how twitchy the bike gets with both the front and the rear tires constantly fighting for grip. The journey towards Khonsa was not at all a pleasant experience as thanks to the roads there is not a single part in your body which has escaped from unwanted jerks . It is simply an utter punishment for the rider and the motorcycle too as the suspension, chassis, engine everything has to work overtime to cover the ups and downs and huge amount of vibrations percolating through every part of the vehicle. This short journey gave me a small demo of what Ewan Mc Gregor and Charley Boorman had to go through while doing their ride in the famous documentary "Long Way Round" (a must watch for every passionate rider!!) :



Regardless, although Khonsa is approximately about 48 kms from Deomali, all the riders were very tired within the first 30 kms thanks to the back breaking route we had to go through. However, at the end of the day, the view was something which kind of made up for everything we had to bear.









Pic 3, 4, 5 & 6: Khonsa, Arunachal Pradesh. Note the roads filled with gravel just a few kms from Khonsa after which one may get a few hundred meters of tarmac which again vanishes.

By the time we reached Khonsa, it was already getting dark so we had a small pit stop session, cup of tea and some goodies from the local pastries shop and the return leg of the journey was started immediately. So the back breaking experience was again started but this time with darkness quickly approaching and headlights on. One can imagine the combination of bad roads, hill decend and unexpected loops and turns with on coming huge trucks and a dearth of dust and dirt hitting your body, it was quite excruciating. We managed to cross the hilly terrain without any problem just that one had to constantly fight for getting proper grip on the road especially when taking a sharp corner downhill.

As we approached Deomali, about 3 kms from the main intersection, my throttle suddenly became very free and no matter what i did the engine simply just wouldn't rev instead it was idling. For a moment, i was scratching my head wondering what the heck is going on but after pulling up onto the side and a little bit of looking around, it was clear that either the throttle cable had jumped off from the throttle body or else one of the cables had snapped. When i opened the tool box the allen key was missing, i guess all courtesy to the previous owner . This meant that i can't even take out the side fairings to inspect and see if at all the throttle cable had jumped, i could may put it back in its place and atleast ride my CBR back home. Sighting the situation i was in and that too in the middle of nowhere it was decided to tow my vehicle atleast to Deomali from where a further plan would be made. Upon reaching Deomali, it was observed that all the shops had closed down and this being a CBR, no local mechanic wanted to fidgit with it. It just so happened that an Assam Police battalion camp was right at the entry point of Deomali. After requesting the personnel inside they gladly let me keep my CBR in their premises while i assured them that i would get hold of a pick up truck the next day to bring her back to my place of stay and to the SVC for a quick fix. Now leaving my bike behind i hopped on to my friend's bike and we started our final leg of the journey through a very dense forest. Not surprsingly, our road was blocked by wild elephants.

Common sense prevailed and none of the riders honked at the wild animals and let them be. After a few minutes the elephants slowly moved to the side of the road and we then carried on with our journey. The next day, i booked a vehicle to pick up my CBR from the police camp. Once we reached, Deomali, i personally thanked every personnel in the Assam Police camp. i am eternally grateful to these men who without thinking twice came forward and helped a person they have never met before in the middle of nowhere. They were kind enough to organise a wooden ramp to lift the motorcycle onto the truck and also proactively gave a helping hand to get the whole thing going.

Motorcycling truely lets you meet people in their natural form: being nice, honest, helpful and polite same like what Ewan and Charley Boorman experienced in another part of the world! I am glad to be experiencing it first hand...











Pic 7, 8, 9, 10 & 11: My Honda CBR 250R being put inside a rented pick up vehicle. A sincere thanks to the Assam Police chaps who graciously kept a watch on my motorcycle for the night and also helped me to place the CBR inside the pick-up vehicle.


Once the vehicle was loaded and we started the journey it was pretty evident, given the condition of the road that lay ahead, the whole load of the motorcycle will have to be borne by the side stand and given the bumps and moon cratered roads the pick-up vehicle it will have to go through i was expecting a bent side stand and the side stand mounting point in the chassis too. The journey was again quite a "back-breaking" one and extremely slow. Not surprisingly by the time we reached the SVC and dis-mounted my CBR from the truck, the side stand was a complete goner and had developed a crack. The stand was already bent undertsandably due to the amount of load that was on it and it was never meant to take the hits of the road thanks to the unbelievable amount of bumps we had to go through, somehow on a pick-up truck the bumps become even more pronounced so one can imagine that my whole body was aching by the end of the journey.







Pic 12, 13 & 14: Note the CBR 250R side stand bent and the visible crack near th lower half of the monting point. New side stand installed on my CBR 250R.

Enroute i had already called up the ever helpful SVC and placed an order for the side stand and both the throttle cables. The night before, once reaching home all the research was done trying to find out the possible reasons behind this unexpected problem cropping up. Seems to be a known case amongst CBR 250Rs that post 18,000 - 20,000 kms, the throttle cable starts developing slag and also quite a bit of rust and may snap or jump from the throttlebody just like it has been observed in HH Karizma (ZMA owners please confirm if this is a known issue amongst your respective rides). Thus, the recommendation is to replace both the clutch and the throttlebody cables periodically as a part of preventive maintenance. It was my grave stupidity that i did get the clutch cable replaced but didn't bother replacing the throttle cables on my CBR and as a result, had to face the consequences. Now imagine if i was riding alone on the same route and this issue would have cropped up! With a non functional motorcycle, stranded in the middle of a very dense jungle and no mobile phone network to communicate with anyone if needed: it would have been a very dangerous and unpleasant situation then.

Regardless, once the side fairing was opened up it was found that the Throttle cable "A" (i believe that is what is the designation given for the one which is pulled during acceleration) had snapped completely. The throttle cable "B" was also found to be having signs of shearing. So immediately both the Throttle Cable "A" and "B" were replaced with brand new ones. The damaged side stand was also replaced with a new one. Luckily the mounting point was not bent so that was one lesser of a headache for me.







Pic 15, 16 & 17: Throttle cable "A" and "B". One has snapped completely and the other one also had shear marked on it.

During the ride, apparently the chain slider had also come off so it was replaced as well. Seems to be the case that especially in the moon cratered roads of the North East, india due to too much vertical movement of the swing arm, at times the chain would get entangled with the chain slider and rip it apart into pieces. So as part of local desi jugaad, the mechanic used "Fevibond" glue to attached the new installed chain slider properly to the chassis.

For the readers the following are the parts prices:

* Throttle Cable "A" - Rs. 166/-
* Throttle Cable "B" - Rs. 166/-
* Chain Slider - Rs. 133/-

From the experience above, i would request all the members to do take up the matter of preventive maintenance very seriously! All i had to do was spend about 450 bucks with labour charges at the SVC and this problem would have never cropped up. Instead, now i had to go through the ordeal of leaving the vehicle in an unknown area, pay quite dearly for the pick up vehicle and also lose one whole day in the process. PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS A MUST!! NO EXCEPTIONS! From now one 15,000 kms or 1 year, both the throttle cables and the clutch cable will be replaced on my CBR as a part of preventive maintenance in order to avoid the above mentioned like situation from ever repeating again.

My CBR has so far covered about 890 kms with Shell Rimula R4 HDEO engine oil and the engine is still butter smooth with no vibrations. The engine oil has turned to yellowish brown colour indicating quite a lot of suspended particles in the oil. All vibrations have vanished completely.



Pic 18: Engine oil colour of Shell Rimula R 4 in my CBR 250R after completing 890 kms.

I am constantly monitoring for any signs of unwanted engine noise or any vibrations, gear shifting issues. Will provide more data as i clock kms in the coming days.


Cheers,

Ownership experience post

@shv18 having requested me a few times (and me putting this off too long - since April), I am finally rewriting and posting my ownership decision and experience.

I own a Karizma R, and am pretty happy with it, but as the bug bites you, you want something slightly more powerful. In my case, I am satisfied with the ZMA, since I am not a speed demon. However, the things that interested me were

1) Having tubeless tyres
2) Reliable bike that has more grunt than the ZMA
3) ABS
The duke was out of the equation given its temperament and niggles.
Only the CBR250R ticked these requirements, especially the ABS. Now, I know many of us have had these discussions, and me, @psr and @shv18 had many many discussions about the positives and negatives of an ABS equipped bike. For me, travelling on the highway is a risk, given the amount of lunatics out there, and the feeling was that it would be better for me to have a bike with ABS.

Having decided on the CBR after reading numerous reviews, the entire XBHP CBR250R thread a couple of times and discussions and inputs from various CBR250R owners, I was on the lookout for a well maintained used bike.
The market in Gujarat is a strange one, you can get vehicles like the CBR250R and even the Ninja at a very low price. However, that is another discussion. The main concern was getting a motorcycle that was well maintained and trouble free.

I saw a couple of vehicles and was not satisfied with the condition that they were kept in, and passed them on. To give an example, about a year ago, I was getting a 2011 standard 250R for about 70K. However, my criteria was ABS and we kept searching. I had requested my dealer to inform me whenever he got a hold of an ABS bike. One fine evening, he asked me to come and take a look at a Silver ABS vehicle.

When I took at look at the bike, it was in pretty bad shape. The owner was asking 55K for it, but the costs were
1) Broken fairing
2) Chain sprocket at the end of its life
3) Leaky/bent forks
4) Worn discs and worn brake pads
5) Tyres at the end of life



It didn't give me too much confidence even at that price as I was looking at spending a minimum of 30K to restore it to a reasonable condition. The mechanic from the Honda SVC accompanied me to check it out and he decided there was some shim noise as well. He offered the owner 50K, but he wasn't too keen on parting with it at that amount. We passed on that vehicle.

After that, we had a long wait, since ABS equipped CBRs are pretty rare. In the meantime, me @psr and @shv18 had discussions, lots of information was shared (as @shv18 is doing in this thread, so generously) and we kept looking for vehicles.
In the case of buying a used vehicle, two things matter, one's budget and the vehicle's condition. If your budget is low, you won't get a vehicle in top notch condition, while if a vehicle is mint, the selling price will be higher. However, GJ is a unique case where even good condition motorcycles sell for a low price at times. Not sure if it's because of the notion that these larger displacement vehicles will give abysmal mileage or they are difficult to maintain.

Anyway, I heard from a couple of friends about a motorcycle that was lying around as the owner had left for the US. This was a Pearl Heron Blue ABS CBR250R. We went to inspect the vehicle, however, we were in for a rude shock. We had been informed that the vehicle was in good condition, but apparently the caretakers had neglected the motorcycle, it was lying outside and covered with dust. Here are a few photographs.
To add to that, we got to know that the owner had had a spill with the vehicle while cornering. It had been repaired under insurance, but there was some damage to the chassis, due to the frame sliders, the forks were leaking, and the brakes were worn out (or perhaps replaced by someone).The brake discs were also scored, the rear being more so. The front tyre also had a big tear in the middle and it was obvious it would have to be replaced. This didn't give us much confidence and I decided to skip the vehicle. I did have a lot of discussions with the owner of the vehicle who was very distressed at the state of his motorcycle.











While the wait for a vehicle continued, so did the discussions. @shv18 was really keen on getting a CBR soon, as he had some modifications in mind, given his experience with the FZ18. Later on, (this was probably around September last year), I was getting a good deal on another CBR STD, for about 45K, but I had already made up my mind to go for an ABS vehicle and hence didn't take up that offer. @shv18 advised me to keep an open mind and consider a standard vehicle as well, but as they say, things turn out the way they will.

As things went, I was constantly in touch with the owner of the aforementioned bike and he was keen to sell it to me, however due to some circumstances, we weren't able to conclude the sale. The things going for the bike were that the engine was in good condition, the damage to the chassis didn't appear severe (I was ready to replace the chassis if necessary, but that didn't turn out to be the case). There was also a case of discrepancy in mileage, while he said his vehicle hadn't done more than 10K kms, the reading on the meter was 16.4K kms. He was very confused as to that, and we tried hard to trace this. We are (still) not sure whether the meter was replaced (the lights on the speedometer didn't work), and the owner was certain the ones on the meter were working. Also, there were some scratches on the silver paint on the speedo, which weren't there previously and at the time when he slipped either. It led me to believe that someone might have replaced this console at some other location.

The wait continued, and I was patient. Then, I encountered another CBR250R ABS, which was being sold for 68K this year. Me and my mechanic went to take a look at it, it was another tricolor (Pearl Heron Blue) that seemingly looked good from the outside. However, on close examination, there were typical signs of a crash (No ABS sticker on the front fender as an example), and the engine also sounded rough. While the price was tempting, the cautious nature of our friends came into play, and on consulting with them, we decided to skip this vehicle. The estimate for restoring it to like-new condition seemed to be 30K and I decided it wasn't worth putting in the effort for this particular vehicle, as the facts had been hidden from me.

As it happened, the earlier vehicle was now ready to be sold, and I made up my mind to go in for a known devil rather than an unknown one. We concluded the deal, and I took the help of Universal Honda to transport the vehicle to their premises and start work on it. There's a note of thanks at the end of this post, for Honda and others who helped all this time. The vehicle was ready to be taken to the premises, but something weird happened. The motorcycle that cranked up after 6 months lying around didn't start up. Keep in mind, that nearly a year had passed by that the vehicle was lying idle. I had of course made sure that the old fuel was drained and fresh one put in. The motorcycle refused to start and I was worried that the fuel pump might have failed. However, the mechanic said that it was a battery issue and we put in a new Amaron 7AH battery on the way to the SVC. The motorcycle started in one crank and I heaved a sigh of relief.

Costs that we had assumed were.

1) Tyre replacement ~6K to 10K depending on the tyres. Had decided to replace both F and R. I replaced the tyres with MRFs, both front and rear tubeless cost me 6K.
2) Rear Brake disc replacement ~4K (did NOT need to do this)
3) F and R brake pads replacement ~5K
4) New Engine Oil ~1.6K
5) Chassis replacement (if necessary) ~12-14K, plus any extra labour charges. (Did NOT need to do this at present)
6) Repairing forks (if necessary) ~1K-2K, excluding a scenario where I needed to replace them entirely. (Fork oil seals and oil were replaced for approximately 1.2K)
7) Insurance to be renewed (earlier insurance had lapsed) 4K-5K for comprehensive insurance. Cost a total of 6.2K for comprehensive insurance from IFFCO TOKIO, RTO transfer charges and tax (and agent's fees).

Minor costs were

1) Replacing air filter Rs 285
2) Replacing fuel filter Rs 150
3) Replacing Throttle cables A & B Rs 300
4) New coolant Rs 300

Costs we had not assumed but happened.

1) Battery - 7ah Amaron, 1.5K
2) Front master cylinder Rs 300
3) Rear Master cylinder Rs 1425
4) Worn cone set ~2500
5) New sidestand ~150

Other incidental costs ~3000 rupees. These include labour charges etc. Overall, the costs were over 25K, without replacing the Chassis or the Rear brake disc rotor. I was told by the mechanic that the brake disc would start bedding in, and only if there was uneven bedding should I think of replacing the disc as it cost nearly 4K rupees. As it turned out, he was right and the disc surface is quite even now.

Other things. I replaced the stock bulb with a Philips Xtreme vision 55/60 and it is really good for the night. Care (and time) was taken to detail the motorcycle so that it looks as good as new. The brakes were very spongy, we replaced the fluid with DOT4 and drained the fluid according to the service manual. The response is very good now, and the braking is very effective. ABS has been tested in both the wet and dry and works well.

Many things have already been covered by @shv18, like comparisons, the power output and delivery etc so I won't go into all of those things. Suffice it to say that this bike is a joy to ride. As @aargee said somewhere, everytime you take the bike out, it puts a smile on your face, and it's true! Except for traffic, that is. I do not enjoy the gear shifting in heavy traffic and solely use the ZMA for short distances. People also fiddle with the motorcycle when left alone, and that is something I do not like. That is why I use the ZMA within the city and the CBR for highway spins. I did want to sell my ZMA, but I was getting a pitifully low amount for it, and given the amount of effort I put into that motorcycle, there doesn't seem to be any point selling it now.

I will update this thread with further details, time permitting, since there is a lot of information to be shared.

Notes of thanks : @psr and @shv18, for all the discussions and interaction/help all the time. @aargee and @icemang for their advise @icemang wasn't too keen on a stance change from the ZMA to the CBR, there were some discussions about it, riding posture, power delivery etc). Thankfully, I've had no wrist or back pain riding this motorcycle, the stance isn't too bad. The idea is to keep a loose grip on the clip ons, and you should be fine. @adisakke and @mansuryayas for all their inputs locally. Especially @mansuryayas who accompanied me a few times, gave inputs all the time, helped research the bike's history, and test rode the vehicle, and was also ready to help bring it home with me.
The previous owner of the bike), who helped me with a lot of information, was open and honest about his motorcycle and expectations and was patient enough while the negotiations were ongoing.
All other riders or friends whose names I might have missed, who helped during this experience.

I'll add a note of thanks and appreciation for HMSI (Honda India) here. I wrote to them once, and I received several follow ups, and I was helped by their regional manager in securing the services of a good service centre. I built a good relationship with Universal Honda here, the service manager Mr Anil is very helpful and has always let me do things my way in his workshop. I know there are many SVCs that do not allow customers into the vehicle bays, but such is not the case here. I can stay all day and tinker about with the tools if I wish to. The parts store has been immensely helpful as well, and they have managed to source all necessary parts within a reasonable time frame, if not available in hand. Moreover, the mechanic here (Pintu) is knowledgeable and has given of his time and energy in restoring the bike to its former glory. A special note of thanks for him for all of his help.

With this, I conclude my initial post in the purchase and ownership experience. Thank you for reading these many rambling lines.
Bike after detailing and restoration.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Thank you for the information about your cone set change, I stand corrected except on the price. I am very sure the bearings cost 400+ each and the races (I was quoted 300ish for each of them), this was excluding labour costs. I don't recall the exact amount now, but races were definitely an extra cost. Unfortunately, I can't find the pictures of the package (when I purchase something from the SVC, I take a picture of the part and the price as well).

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

in ideal situation yes it should last well over 25k however i am 100% i have had all those parts changed as i had pitting on the races as well and not just the bearings.

first time blame it to my ignorance due to pressure washing and over tightening killed it at 12k itself and it was badly rusted with heavy pitting.
the second time includes a ladakh trip in worth of weather and some serious offroading for over 20 days. also it wasn't really gone bad but i anyways got it opened
and i had my doubts hence got changed. along with races.

and i am 100% it was not anyways close to 2k mark including labour and part. as i am always present when the work is done . be it a 10 min work or a 5 hour long service with multiple parts checkup and replacement.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

I think you didn't have the races changed at all, just the bearings as you mentioned, and that is why they went bad so fast. The cone set should last well beyond 25K at least (depending on road conditions). Many mechanics are lazy and prefer not to use the Honda tools to remove the races from the frame and the steering stem. They will just put in bearings and give the go ahead. In my case, I had the entire set replaced.

Please refer to the below. You need to change parts 10,11 and 12 as well as 14, 15 and 16 to actually change the 'cone set'.




Photographs of cone set being changed.

Old top bearing (notice the rust - the grease was recent)


Lower bearing - again notice the rusting.


Lower race being installed with the Honda special tool.


Upper race being fitted in


Again, the Honda tool comes in handy to prevent damage to the race.


Picture of the new bearings and a couple of new races.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

i have had my coneset changed twice and once at 12k and another time at 27k and i am sure it was not 2300 in any case.
i over tightened it first time and it went bad.

second time i had wobble issue and got it changed however the wobble was not due to coneset but i still went ahead and changed it.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R



Galfer brake pads for CBR 250r for 1800 RS .......Bro i got the same for RS 6000 from Performance racing store Mumbai a couple of years back and now it costs a whooping 8.5K.If its available for RS 1800 any where in india please share the info so that other CBR owners who wants to opt for Galfer can benefit from it as it will be available at a lesser cost than OEM brake pads for ABS version from Nissin which costs more that 3K.
Performance Racing Store. Galfer Brake Pads - CBR 250R

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

The cone set is not just the bearings alone. Replacing just the bearings has no point since if the races are scratched or worn, the new bearings will be worn out faster. The total cone set includes Top and Bottom steering cone races and 2 bearings. Total cost goes to over 2300 excluding labour.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

[MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION] [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION] the reason i'm asking for the price is not to bargain but to have a knowledge of the price range. I had been through the pain of importing and selling in India. I just don't want to be robbed by someone just cuz I don't have any idea. I don't mind the 0rice at all, if I can't afford it at the moment may be later but would never compromise on quality and the results. 👍

And I'll check also with the SKF guys. Thanks for the contact.

Cheers

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

i have not used tapered roller bearings as of now on CBR hence unsure of the costing however i am sure they will perform better
as per my info. you can check the price of the same with Shv else with motozone performance.

Another good company is SKF. they make very good bearings and they do have tapered bearings for CBR.
check with this guy. pretty responsive on email. I emailed them and they sent me the local dealer info for HYD. check it out.
[email protected]
www.skfindia.com

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Thank you. As far as the brake pads they are not urgent as she is on a new set of pads.

And I meant the the total cone set ~cost. I enquired in Honda spares. What abt the cost of the tapered bearing? 7.5k?

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

not sure of 8k . we managed to get galfer pads for CBR abs and non abs for 1800 odd however the abs ones were useful and the non - abs ones are the one that fit US non abs model hence lying unused with me.

for OEM coneset there are 2 bearings each costing 400 bucks each so total coneset is 800 + 400 labour - costs 1200.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Sir absolutely spot on!! In my case it is indeed a value for money proposition as i am looking at HH sintered pads purely from a performance perspective. As the information shared in the earlier post and your respective post suggests: Sintered pads perform better both in hot and cold situations and for aggressive riding is far more resistant to brake fade, high heat and high temperature than OEM. Not that i am into agressive riding by any means however the way the HH pads responded to inputs i gave when TDing @gopakumar s pillai 's CBR the last time, i was completely bowled over and it was a "must have!!" in my bucket list.


If you take time and go through my earlier posts, at no point i have mentioned anything related to pricing of after market products on my thread. Performance products always come at a premium cost. Unfortunately all the items mentioned on this thread are imported from abroad. Whatever has been discussed between you and the seller is purely a communication between you two and the real question is can you justify the amount for the same?

To me, better performance over OEM stock was the key factor and price was no bar... for you, justification and reasoning may be different. Do some more research, think it through and then make an informed decision. All the best..


Cheers,

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

[MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION] i enquired abt the HH sintered pads and it costs a whooping 8k. I think u mentioned some where around 3k right? Also the tapered bearings cost the same while the stock cone set bearings costs 2.8k. Are these prices reasonable?