Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Where did you buy this ? Please guide. What is the main purpose of this product ? Thanks.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

RIDE REPORT, INCIDENTS & GENERIC MAINTENANCE (PART 2):

However, due to some personal engagements I then had to head back to Guwahati again along with my family. When i came back i had a news awaiting for me something which no passionate rider wants to ever hear. My mother had again decided to loan my bike to a family member without my knowledge and... uhhh let me just say the pics below will tell the whole story of the pain i had to go through:

* Side upper fairing cowl cracked,
* Clutch lever bent,
* LHS mirror plastic scratched and loosened from the holding bracket,
* LHS fairing badly scratched and the stickers damaged.

The family member had parked the bike on a soft soil which after sometime led to the side stand digging into it and the end-result was bike on the floor: a rookie mistake! I was in such a position that i couldn't say anything to that family member nor to my mother, so this time i had to pull the intervention card that no more free rides without my prior knowledge and any such future incidents will not be tolerated politely again. Dis-hearted, i brought the bike back home only to find that my father accidentally reversed his car and managed to now topple my bike on the right hand side!

* RHS fairing badly scratched, stickers damaged
* RHS mirror plastic scratched

My father clearly was aware of my OCMD especially with my CBR 250R so he literally came forward and offered to bear any and every expenses that may be needed to take care of the damages. I don't know whether i should be happy or sad given that my bike had taken two falls both LHS & RHS without the owner actually being involved in any of the incidents. However, the beauty of owning a Honda CBR 250R is the fairings are quite cheap to procure by any standards so i guess this was going to be a small makeover for my beloved motorcycle.









Pic 11, 12 , 13 & 14: The horror of battle scars courtesy everybody except the actual owner!

Anyways, my priority was now to get the drive chain and sprockets replaced, so i landed up at my mechanic's place and we then started with the dis-assembly of the rear tire and the swing-arm to remove the old chain (OEM drive chain is closed loop so in-order to replace it, one has to completely remove the rear swing arm assembly). While we were at it, my mechanic quickly pointed out that the holding screws of the pulsar ring for the ABS sensor were found to be loose. I was quite astonished by this as never in the last 17,000 kms any mechanic has fiddled with these screws. I am not sure why this happened but regardless we quickly fixed this issue by removing them first and then putting a liberal dose of "Loctite 248 Threadlocker" on the respective screws and tightening them back in place. I would request my fellow ABS - CBR owners to kindly do check and confirm if they too may have observed this same anomaly pertaining to the ABS pulsar ring holding screws in their respective bikes.





Pic 15 & 16: ABS Pulsar ring holding screws found to be loose and quickly put back in using Threadlocker solution.

We then moved on with the process of removing the old chain & sprockets from my CBR. As the pics below will clearly show, the front sprocket had started to curl which was an indication that it had reached the end cycle of its usable life. I believe it has already been discussed on xbhp but just for the sake of noobs: the OEM drive chain and sprockets are made by Rolon (as shown from the excerpt of Rolon catalogue below). If one wishes to procure the same from outside without shelling out Rs. 2000 - 2200/- it should be easily available with any Rolon dealer for as cheap as Rs. 1,400 - 1,500/-. I hope this will also enable an owner to have choices outside the service centre incase they come up with the usual excuse of drive chain & sprockets not in stock.







Pic 17, 18 & 19: Rolon catalogue clearly indicating the model no. of the drive chain & sprocket kit available from their dealers. Note the state of F & R sprockets and the drive chain after 17,000 kms.

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Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

You would not believe me boss, but my chain has 38,190 kms on it, and it still goes on. My chain's on its last legs too, but I have no extra sounds while riding the bike.

Can you share the price of that chain sprocket set if it's all right with Motozone?

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

RIDE REPORT, INCIDENTS & GENERIC MAINTENANCE (PART 1):

Hi All,
been meaning to post something on this thread however got caught with day to day activities. Anyways, i had to scrap the plan for Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh again thanks to incessant rains, there were massive landslides and also Tawang experienced heaviest snowfall ever recorded since, the last 10 years. Also my plan incidentally coincided with the visit of his holiness: Dalai lama to the state which resulted in unavailability of any kind of accommodation there. Seems to be the case that i will have to defer this plan till October '17 end.

However, i got an opportunity to take my bike to the main city (Guwahati) for another ride and it just so happened that a sudden plan to Shillong was formulated. So without thinking too much just geared up and left for this beautiful state. i believe i don't have to elaborate much as the images below will tell the whole story as to why i never get tired of visiting the state - Meghalaya. Roads are amazing, warm people and the untouched beauty simply takes your breath away. Not to mention the awesome corner carving session one gets to enjoy on butter smooth tarmac. Now with Michelins doing duty on both front and rear, i was on cloud no. 9 as my bike stuck to the road like a leech and just kept on encouraging me to lean more and more till i started scraping the foot pegs. i believe i will have a hard time looking for any other alternative tire once i wear this set out.











Pic 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5: The scenic beauty of the beautiful state of Meghalaya. Note the beautiful tarmac - traffic free so corner carving sessions are simply amazing.

After a brief stint in Meghalaya and Guwahati, i then pushed on for my return ride to my hometown. My CBR 250R behaved exceptionally well and at certain stretches she was happily hitting triple digits without complaining one bit. When i was about 100 kms away from my destination, i noticed that at slow speeds there was a lot of crunching and metallic noise emanating from the front- left hand side of the bike. I had a brief suspicion that dirt and dust accumulation might have blocked the free movement of the front sprocket hence, the noise. However, since, there was no drop in performance of my bike i decided to continue riding and get it inspected there. I had also consulted a few senior riders and they too asked me to get the drive chain and sprockets inspected.

After a few days, i called up my Honda CBR mechanic friend (who had recently quit Honda workshop) and asked him to come home and inspect the state of the drive chain and sprockets. Post the completion of the last ride, this set of drive chain and sprockets had already done around 16,800 kms. Upon further inspection, the mechanic concluded that the chain had elongated to the last adjustment level and the front sprocket had started curling little bit because of which i was getting to hear the metallic noise. Considering the pathetic conditions the drive chain and the sprockets had to go through in their lifetime, i would say 17k kms is really not bad for an OEM set. As per my mechanic if i wanted this set can be easily pushed to 19k+ kms for local runs or may be one or two more 1000 kms ride.

However, following the guidelines of the Honda workshop manual which clearly stipulates the adjustment limit at which the chain and sprocket set is to be replaced and also to curb my OCMD : i told my mechanic that under no circumstances any compromises will be done especially when i had an upcoming ride to Bhutan. So a due replacement was in order and i shall make the necessary arrangements for the same.









Pic 6, 7, 8 & 9: The state of the chain & sprockets @16,800 kms. Note the front sprocket curling and the chain adjustment level reaching the last bar which as per the workshop manual is when one should opt for replacement of both the drive chain and sprockets together.

I already had an OEM set of chain & sprockets lying with me however, i really wanted to try out an X-Ring chain which at least in theory sounded to be far more superior than the standard O-Ring chain supplied by Honda (Check out a post on @abhimanyu31 's thread: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1063087). So an order was quickly placed with Mr. Vikram Verma, Motozone Performance (Mumbai & Pune). As always, the chain and the sprocket set was shipped and arrived quickly at my doorstep within a week's time....



Pic 10: X-Ring chain and OEM spec sprockets ordered from Motozone Performance. The gold colour chain was simply a surprise party trick thrown at me by Mr. Vikram.


Part 2 of the story in the next post due to unexpected errors..

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Yes [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] bro ... There were no loose contacts & he checked it with multi meter couple of times before they placed the order for a new one.
And the best part is that it's covered in warranty...!!!

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

It is strange to hear of a stator coil failure in CBR 250R....Did the ASC mech check for loose contact and RR problem....Was the Coil resistance of all Three Phase windings checked before arriving at this conclusion of coil failure ?...Please ask the ASC mech to check out these before deciding on replacement..
Good Luck

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

[MENTION=58594]leech[/MENTION]
1) Odo has clocked 22567
2) Always use the oil from Honda SVC as the bike is serviced there only between 3000-4000 Kms depending on my rides.
3) Oil, coolant, brake fluids, etc. is checked at approx 2000Kms & topped if required.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Bro, please answer the following questions if you have the time :

1. What is the odo reading?

2. Which oil and how often you change it?

3. How often do you check the oil level in the bike?

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Looks like Spartan has updated the Odysseus. When I'd bought my pair 2 years back, it didn't come with the "Charlie Chaplin" straps or the reflective piping(atleast don't remember noticing this. Probably should check this once I get home). It is quite a comfortable pair of pants for all dry rides and the pockets give you easy access to essential items. Sad to hear that they haven't fixed the placement of the knox armour though. Great choice otherwise.

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

NEW PROCUREMENT

Hi all,

This is going to be a slight OT so bear with me.

Post my last ride, i was itching to get hold of good riding pants as it made no sense: investing so much on a good riding jacket and absolutely no protection to the lower body. Though i do use external strap on knee guards, somehow i never felt safe with them. I always wanted to get my hands on touring pants from well known brands like Rukka or Klim. However, their astronomical pricing and no good reliable sellers available in India kinda kept this plan at bay. I have decided to take on the Himalayas by opting for a solo ride to Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh soon so adequate body protection along with thermal protection due to negative temperatures currently prevailing in that region kinda accelerated the plans for the need of a touring pants on urgent basis. As we all know the mighty Himalayas are not to be taken lightly, the roads are not consistent, the weather changes at a moment's notice from hot to cold to sudden rains and snow (at higher altitudes). In a way this was going to be kinda mini Ladakh testing for me (a long cherished dream which keeps on getting postponed due to unexpected and unforseen circumstances).

Since, my experience with Spartan Pro Gear has been great so far, i decided to place an order for Aspida Odysseus Touring pants from their website (Link: https://www.spartanprogear.com/colle...-touring-pants). I wanted to ensure that i get the right sizing at first go as it is really irritating to do back and forth for replacement of clothing items so i shot a mail to SPG's customer service. I got a response from Mr. Subramanium, SPG who patiently addressed my concerns and recommended the required size for my body dimensions. I had also requested the SPG customer service to kindly expedite the consignment at the earliest since, i would be taking this trip at a sudden notice and would like to do a test run first which would allow me to assess the health of my bike (take care of any changes or replacements that may needed to be done) and also testing and getting used to all the safety gears over an extended period of riding, may be induce break-in for the clothing as well. Once the order was placed, as always SPG was lightning fast in getting the item shipped. I was very much surprised by a call i received from their Chennai office checking on whether i as a customer had received my shipment (when the local courier office kinda bluffed on the delivery date). If this kind of pro-active customer service is maintained i am sure SPG will go a long way. Kudos to @Sunnyside_up! for taking a unique customer/rider centric approach.

Once, i got hold of the shipment, it didn't take me long to start unpacking the contents.





Pic 1 & 2: Touring pants arrived in SPG's branded shipment box. The service is very fast and prompt.

My first impressions of the Odysseus Touring pants are positive. It is cargo styled: so should be comfortable on a long distance riding instead of snug fit which doesn't float my boat at all. The build quality is solid and rugged, has 600D condura fabric which they claim has a high abrasion resistance. Has got an adjustable sling type (reminds of Charlie Chaplin!! ) straps which will hold the pants in place, in the event with stretching and may be weight loss (yeah right!!) the fitting becomes lose. The best thing is this Sling type adjuster is also removable since, it is attached to the jacket with a zip type locker. As the pics below will suggest the touring pants come with reflective stripes which i feel is an extra add-on protection incase of night riding and will make the rider more visible to the traffic and other vehicles.

It has Knox Flexi-Form armour for knees and dual density foam armour for hip protection although i seriously doubt how much the foam protector would work incase the unthinkable happens. The Odysseus touring pants also come with thermal and rainproof liners though i am certain that incase of a downpour no amount of rain liners (neither in a riding jacket nor touring pant) would be able to keep water out. All it can do is be water resistant which i feel is good enough. So investing on a proper raincoat would be a wise decision for the ride to Arunachal Pradesh.









Pic: 3, 4, 5 & 6: Aspida Odysseus touring pants from Spartan Pro Gear. Construction and material build quality looks good from initial impressions.

Ok enough of initial impressions, it was time to put on the riding pants. The fitting was spot on and i liked the baggy kinda fitting on thigh region which i feel will really allow a lot of flexibility for the rider to be comfortable when munching on miles. The Charlie Chaplin sling-straps do make everything fit just right though i am not so sure whether they will be comfortable or irritating, especially during hot or humid weather conditions. Thank god that those are removable. As the pics below will suggest (kindly ignore the legend in Japan print on the T ) there are accordion type stretch, strategically placed which allows further movement for the rider. There is a rubber type material on the rear side which i have been told aides in getting good grip on the seat and not allowing the rider to slide around. The riding pants has got 4 pockets which i believe are more than sufficient to stuff in anything the rider may chose to keep.









Pic 7, 8, 9 & 10: Touring pants tried on by your's truly! Note the baggy/cargo style fitting on thighs which should allow a lot of comfortable movement to the rider.

So far everything looks great. However, i do have two major gripes! First one is the knox armour for the knee has been placed slightly lower which is very irritating when walking. I am not sure whether this is may be because of European fitting or for taller riders (as i definitely donot fall into the shorter category: 5ft 11 inches). I believe considering the Asian market and for Asian type body, Spartan should stitch the knee protector holders/place them at least 2 - 3 inches higher which will allow snug fit and right positioning of the knee protectors exactly where it should be. Secondly, if the rider has to go for a pee break then from the looks of it, that is going to be quite a task as the front zipper is covered by a liner and buttons. One can only imagine the problem becoming more complex when the rider is wearing the riding jacket and other protective accessories, bathroom break will have to be planned properly as emergency stops may not be a pleasant experience at all!! I hope @Sunnyside_up! and SPG team will look into this and the future iterations of Aspida Odysseus Touring pants will have these niggles sorted out.




Pic 11: Aspida Odysseus Touring pants with the front zipper for loo break it is going to be quite a task!! The no. of buttons and clothing material is too much i feel.


As mentioned earlier, i will be going for a 1000+ kms of journey for some work in the city which will allow me to do test run of my bike and also the respective gears before i take on The Himalayas. Shall report my observations about the touring pants and my CBR in the next post.


Until then...


Cheers,

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Done...Thanx for pointing out...!!!

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

@ zeeshan300975, why do you quote the entire post including pics and videos to update something on your bike status. Please edit to remove the entire quote, it's very much inconvenient for mobile users.

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Hi @zeeshan300975

not sure why such an issue has cropped up with your bike. If the SVC has got an ECU diagnostic tool then may be they will be able to pinpoint the issue better. Usually when the engine light comes on it means the ECU has detected some anomaly. My educated guess is to either monitor the engine oil level, correct fuel in the tank and also the state of health of the battery. Without seeing the motorcycle in person it is not easy to narrow the possible reasons behind your beloved motorcycle suddenly acting strange. Hope your understand. Good luck.[/QUOTE]


Hi [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION], [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION]
Brothers, I took the bike to the main SVC & the mechanic trained from Honda checked it & told me that the O2 sensor detected some problems & rectified it, but the sensor didn't delete the code generated for it so the mechanic deleted it manually & told me that it's done.
I planned a ride to Theog & whilst going there nothing happened even at high RPMs...I was happy.
But on the way back, the Amber light started glowing again. I was approx 120+ that time. I parked the bike on the hard shoulder, had a sutta, fired up the engine & turned the throttle and nothing happened even at 140+. It's driving me nuts.
I always get the oil changed completely at service (every 3000-4000 km) & never go for top up. I change the oil filter at every alternate service.
I m taking the bike again for service today & will see if they have ECU diagnostic tools.

Thank you guys for your inputs

DOTHRAS CHEK ...!!!

Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

Many Happy Returns of the day [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION] .

Speaking of returns, Honda is opening a new workshop and has asked you to return all these items you're stocking up. . Have a good one.