Inter-State Bike Transfer Thread

[MHG]

Bribes are not exactly part of my worries. I'm taking a spy cam pen with me and putting it in recording mode if they cause any trouble. I'll use a few media contacts to get the event free publicity and maybe ask some lawyer friends to help extract harassment damages from the officials.

Now as for period of stay, it could be between 1 and 3 years, I'm not at all sure how long it could take.

How hard is it to pay tax in Karnataka and get a Refund ? What % of tax is refunded assuming I use the bike for only 1 year in Karanataka ?

Finally, how advantageous is it to instead just buy another bike (perhaps second hand) at Hyderabad and sell it back there when I leave the place ?

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

Finally got some acquaintance in RTO, gave him an application asking to cancel my NOC application and return me the original RC. He did issue me the original RC and now am happily riding the KA registered bike in Assam. Took a fuel receipt when I left Mysore and I learnt from people here that police here isn't that strict to check when I entered the state! Afterall, am exercising my fundamental right to travel anywhere in India!

Yeah, the RTO people asked for 2000 bucks to issue NOC
That's the reason I've issued a NOC only & haven't bothered registering my bike in Kolkata. I just keep all the documents with me. The cops will only catch you when they wanna earn some money.

How hard is it to pay tax in Karnataka and get a Refund ? What % of tax is refunded assuming I use the bike for only 1 year in Karanataka ?
Finally, how advantageous is it to instead just buy another bike (perhaps second hand) at Hyderabad and sell it back there when I leave the place ?

I'm not from Karnataka so can't comment on it. For paying tax you'll either have to run around with the papers & bribe the employees (otherwise they won't give clearance for the next step) or you can hire an agent. If the agent is expert enough you'll get the tax receipt same day itself & new registration within 2~3 working days.
Whatever you pay as tax is for a period of 15yrs. For refund you'll have to show them the new tax receipt obtained from the new state & they'll refund after deducting the tax liabilities upto the day on which you claim refund. Mostly these people would harass you a lot.
As far as buying a bike is concerned, I'd say your make call based on your understanding and your financial situations.
Cheers!!

[MHG]

As far as buying a bike is concerned, I'd say your make call based on your understanding and your financial situations.
Cheers!!

Well, my financial situations dictate that I choose least expensive path hence the question, would I end up paying more to take bike to different states or just buy 2nd hand bikes (find a good deal) and sell them off as I leave the state. Would I loose more cash in first case (paying tax again) or second case (depreciation when selling 2nd hand bike after an year) ??

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

Well, in that case let's do some math here
1. Transport charge = Rs. 1000 (min.)
2. NOC charge = Rs. 700~1000
3. Considering you get a 10 year or so refund from the previous state, you'll still end up paying around Rs. 3000 for registration + road tax + harassment by Govt. employees
4. Agent commission = Rs. 1000
* Most people do not get refunds, personally I was denied any refunds stating such a rule does not exist but I've gone through the whole motor-Vehicles act itself & I'm sure refund rule is there.

If you buy a used HERO motocorp bike & then sell it off, you'll incur no considerable loss. But mind you, you'll still have to get the ownership name transferred to your own name & also change the address of your DL into your new address. So you'll have to shell out atleast 2000 in this case apart from the bike itself.

Tell me, are you gonna return to your home town after a year or so or are you getting transferred to some other state again? If your're gonna return to your home town I'd say buy a used bike but if you're gonna get transferred to another state again then taking you bike would be better.

[MHG]

I'm actually unsure where I'll end up. So I could spend 1 year or even 5 years in the same place and I'll never know.

BTW, I think I'll just buy a bike in my home town itself. I just got news that the company will take care of vehicle re-registration expenses as a part of relocation package during joining and also each time they transfer me

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

That's a great news buddy hope same applies to all companies

[sunilyo]

Do not know if my query fits in this thread correctly or not but still posting it.

I have recently sold my bike (2004) model to a friend of mine. Now the bike is registered in Delhi and my friend stays in Gurgaon (Haryana). Now what is the procedure for the transfer of ownership and that to into a different state.

I checked with someone about this and was told that i only need to get an NOC from the Delhi RTO where it was registered and the rest will be taken care of by the buyer.

So i want to know the following:

a. there is an application (Form 28) for issue of NOC available on the website of Delhi RTO. Can i simply print this on a plain paper and submit it at the RTO? Or do i need to get it typed on a stamp paper (in which case what amount of stamp paper - Rs.5/10/50)

b. do i need to submit any documents along with the application like copy of RC / insurance papers etc.

c. Do i also need to submit any hand-written application? If yes then what should i write on it?

d. what are the charges for the entire procedure of getting the NOC and how much time does it take?

e. if i go via a broker/dalal/middle man will the process be easy? how much do these guys charge?

Looking for advises. Urgently.

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

Do not know if my query fits in this thread correctly or not but still posting it.

I have recently sold my bike (2004) model to a friend of mine. Now the bike is registered in Delhi and my friend stays in Gurgaon (Haryana). Now what is the procedure for the transfer of ownership and that to into a different state.

I checked with someone about this and was told that i only need to get an NOC from the Delhi RTO where it was registered and the rest will be taken care of by the buyer.

So i want to know the following:

a. there is an application (Form 28) for issue of NOC available on the website of Delhi RTO. Can i simply print this on a plain paper and submit it at the RTO? Or do i need to get it typed on a stamp paper (in which case what amount of stamp paper - Rs.5/10/50)

b. do i need to submit any documents along with the application like copy of RC / insurance papers etc.

c. Do i also need to submit any hand-written application? If yes then what should i write on it?

d. what are the charges for the entire procedure of getting the NOC and how much time does it take?

e. if i go via a broker/dalal/middle man will the process be easy? how much do these guys charge?

Looking for advises. Urgently.

a. You can simply get it printed out.
b. Don't remember bro, sorry.
c. Nope
d. Depends on the 'bribe'.
e. Yes, again depends on the place and RTO.

[Praful]

I checked with someone about this and was told that i only need to get an NOC from the Delhi RTO where it was registered and the rest will be taken care of by the buyer.

There are three things here,

1. Are you looking at just transfer of ownership?
2. Do you want to ply the bike in a different state?
3. Do you want to re-register the bike in a different state?


An NOC from the currently registered RTO is need *only* when you need to re-register the bike in another state.

Else, if you just need to transfer ownership then that needs to be done in the currently registered RTO.

[Pranshu]

Mumbai Tranfer process

Guys,

I have transferred my bike from Punjab to Mumbai. Could you please let me know the registration process in mumbai? Any reliable agent contact details welcome. I am residing in Kandivali.

[sunilyo]

a. You can simply get it printed out.
b. Don't remember bro, sorry.
c. Nope
d. Depends on the 'bribe'.
e. Yes, again depends on the place and RTO.

Thank you Abhijeet.

Noted application can be simply printed out and no need for a stamp paper.

Now just have to go at the RTO office.

[sunilyo]

There are three things here,

1. Are you looking at just transfer of ownership? - YES
2. Do you want to ply the bike in a different state? - YES the buyer lives in a different state
3. Do you want to re-register the bike in a different state? - Well this will be taken care of by the buyer. He just needs the NOC from my RTO


An NOC from the currently registered RTO is need *only* when you need to re-register the bike in another state.

Else, if you just need to transfer ownership then that needs to be done in the currently registered RTO.

My answers in Bold above.

So what do you think i should be doing.

All i need to do is get the NOC from the Delhi RTO for my bike and give it to the buyer. He will take care of the rest at his end - re-registration etc.

[Praful]

My answers in Bold above.

So what do you think i should be doing.

All i need to do is get the NOC from the Delhi RTO for my bike and give it to the buyer. He will take care of the rest at his end - re-registration etc.

I don't think it will work that way, NOC is only for re-registration not transfer of ownership. That will have to be done either before or after re-registration, preferably before!

Else if you just get an NOC, the bike is still registered in your name and all the buyer can do is re-register in the new state in *your* name.

[vickks]

My answers in Bold above.

So what do you think i should be doing.

All i need to do is get the NOC from the Delhi RTO for my bike and give it to the buyer. He will take care of the rest at his end - re-registration etc.

I don't think it will work that way, NOC is only for re-registration not transfer of ownership. That will have to be done either before or after re-registration, preferably before!

Else if you just get an NOC, the bike is still registered in your name and all the buyer can do is re-register in the new state in *your* name.

NOC with transfer of ownership is required for selling a bike to a person living in another state. In the NOC form (form 28), its written:

I/We intend to transfer the vehicle to the jurisdiction of the Registering Authority .............................

I/We intend to sell the Vehicle to Sri/Smt./Kumari ........................who resides in the jurisdiction of the Registering Authority of the State..........................

The first part is for moving a vehicle to a new location, just for change of address and re-registration.
The second part is for selling the vehicle to any person outside the state.

Get forms here
form 28
or
a fill online and print form 28 here.

For your part, get an NOC from Delhi RTO mentioning the second part, i.e. u are selling to someone outside the state and hand it over to him. He'll have to pay the road tax of Haryana and get a new HR number and bike will be registered in his name.

[sunilyo]

NOC with transfer of ownership is required for selling a bike to a person living in another state. In the NOC form (form 28), its written:

I/We intend to transfer the vehicle to the jurisdiction of the Registering Authority .............................

I/We intend to sell the Vehicle to Sri/Smt./Kumari ........................who resides in the jurisdiction of the Registering Authority of the State..........................

The first part is for moving a vehicle to a new location, just for change of address and re-registration.
The second part is for selling the vehicle to any person outside the state.

Get forms here
form 28
or
a fill online and print form 28 here.

For your part, get an NOC from Delhi RTO mentioning the second part, i.e. u are selling to someone outside the state and hand it over to him. He'll have to pay the road tax of Haryana and get a new HR number and bike will be registered in his name.

Thank you vickks.

You have clarified exactly what i wanted to know. Yes the buyer will pay the road tax of haryana and get the re-registration done in his name.