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  • Originally posted by Old Fox View Post
    Lots of good stuff coming from you there Nitro. Great.



    Aargee: Its because performance motorcycles are about speed, precision and control. Three dynamics that are as integral a part of chase and predation as is breath for life. Even Nature designs aggressively when the above three predominate its design brief. Can you imagine a bird of prey looking like a Dove? A Panther that looks akin to a Deer?

    Motorcycling is about a constant dynamic choice between life and death through each moment that you ride it. Fending off death needs precision, control and purpose. And all the more so when you go faster. Aggression is an intrinsic part of swift decisiveness.
    You should be a writer sir! Legendary!

    Originally posted by aargee View Post
    Perfect, perfect, perfect examples; I got what you're trying to say. Makes a well valid point.

    Then my next question is, why doesn't a street motorcycle designed to look aggressive? Why along sports motorcycles?
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    • Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
      You should be a writer sir! Legendary!
      Yes, he's a professional writer on magazines.
      Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
      ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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      • Thanks a lot Sandeep sir for your contribution.!

        Ok so moving on,

        Lets continue the 'Eyebrow' effect.
        The Japanese culture is a rich culture. Often very good animated movies and literature is showcased world over. When you say Ninja and Samurai, the whole Japanese warrior imagery comes up. Ninjas were assasins and the Samurai were a warrior tribe from Japan. Their combat tactics are very famous across the world.
        So when the Japanese companies decide to make an aggressive designs, where do they look? Of course their tradition. As Old Fox sir rightly said, predation,precision and speed is to be enforced in the bikes. The natural inspiration is Samurai.

        Just look at the typical costume of a Samurai warrior.

        This is Japanese aggression. Look how the lines are aggressive.

        Now there is an anime series in Japan called Mobile Suit Gundam. It is about humans piloting a giant armoured suit called Gundam. Now Gundam designs are directly inspired by the Samurai design.
        Shown here is a Gundam robot.

        Look closely at the red lines. The angles that they make.

        And now Honda gives us the Samurai face........



        So,
        if we were to design an Indian sportsbike, should we actually look at our warriors?
        So there goes my advice for the bike makers in India.

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        • An Indian example or a quick sketch would do good! nitro!

          This reminds me of an old design joke about the P220s head light! the eyebrow looks like a certain something else!
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          • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
            An Indian example or a quick sketch would do good! nitro!

            This reminds me of an old design joke about the P220s head light! the eyebrow looks like a certain something else!
            Ok I will try,

            Regarding the 220, they made a round nosed bike(resembling a round nosed animal ) and to give it aggression, they just added the two side pilot lights.

            Animal inspirations and human inspirations are the most prevalent today. The Kawasakis have an Insectoid look. Which is why the ZX10R earns its name,Mantis.

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            • @ NitroSatya

              Great thread... Very informative....

              Your street fighter design theme was spot on.. I ended up picturing it before i scrolled to the cat's pic...

              My 2paisas on the mojo...
              1) Like you said, streetbikes have evolved to be more agreesive (via the slant). But the Mojo's slant lines have an 'opposing effect' as pointed out by you..
              2) Another major flaw is the headlight assembly. The two round headlights (without 'eyebrows') give a very surprised/confused look (if you imagine it on a human face) contributing to a botched up style..
              3) The slant of the exhaust could be made steeper (it currently looks like an afterthought) to add to the aggressive look..

              Brickbats will be appreciated...
              I like 'em Naked

              Blah Blah Blah!

              Reason is not automatic. Those who choose not to recognise it, can't be conquered by it.
              - Ayn Rand, in 'Atlas Shrugged'

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              • ^Thanks a lot!

                The streetfighter theme is actually so. I read it in a design magazine. I did not make it up.

                Regarding the Mojo, what more do you want me to say other than afore-mentioned points?

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                • ^

                  @ nitrosatya
                  Since you are the design guru was wondering if my thoughts made design sense or not (except for the first one, where i'm papaphrasing you)...
                  Last edited by NikhilB; 12-21-2010, 04:55 PM. Reason: typo
                  I like 'em Naked

                  Blah Blah Blah!

                  Reason is not automatic. Those who choose not to recognise it, can't be conquered by it.
                  - Ayn Rand, in 'Atlas Shrugged'

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                  • Originally posted by NikhilB View Post
                    ^

                    @ nitrosatya
                    Since you are the design guru was wondering if my thoughts made design sense or not (except for the first one, where i'm papaphrasing you)...
                    Thanks a lot for your kind words bro. I am not a designer per se, but my field is very closely associated with automotive design. And bike design is open for all!

                    The Mojo is not 100% bad. No one makes a bike saying lets make a bad design! You understood it perfectly.

                    Right now surrounded by a lot of work. Don't know when i will get time to post anything here.
                    Last edited by nitrosatya; 12-21-2010, 05:37 PM.

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                    • ^Common! its not the number of posts you make.. its the quality of posts!

                      Cheers! Too much work, is good news I suppose
                      Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

                      .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex
                      PowerDrift:.

                      #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                      #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                      #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                      #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                      #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
                      � Satyen Poojary

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                      • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                        ^Common! its not the number of posts you make.. its the quality of posts!

                        Cheers! Too much work, is good news I suppose
                        Haha, I have seen a design that will come to India soon! But it is not a bike!
                        Actually worked on a part of it!

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                        • My mailbox is empty
                          Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

                          .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex
                          PowerDrift:.

                          #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                          #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                          #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                          #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                          #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
                          � Satyen Poojary

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                          • Happy new year to all of you!

                            I had two days off. Thought of posting this. A quick sketch.
                            I am working on a theory. If that works, then one can predict the designs of the future. Please wish me luck guys!

                            Do comment on the sketch idea. Just the idea of side panels and headlight Inspired by the gaze of a Tiger. The emotion of a Tiger watching you. Your reaction can definitely help me.

                            Cheers.
                            Next topic coming up soon.

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                            • Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                              Happy new year to all of you!
                              Wish you the same too

                              Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                              Do comment on the sketch idea...help me.
                              Umm...I couldn't figure out anything unique in this design. Most of it reminds me of Street fighter & a huge rear wheel. I can definitely say its a pure idea out of your mind, but most of the parts resembles from any existing motorcycle.
                              Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                              Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                              ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                              • Fine,thanks a lot.

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